Palisades Gold Radio

Stijn Schmitz comes to you from the Rule Symposium in Boca Raton, Florida. Rick Rule begins by emphasizing the importance of investing in oneself through knowledge and relationships, arguing that this foundational step precedes successful capital allocation. He notes that the easy money in commodities has been made, but the “sure money” lies ahead, particularly in gold. Rule explains that gold maintains purchasing power, having increased at 8% compounded nominally in US dollars over 26 years, while he predicts the US dollar could lose 75% of its purchasing power in the next decade. He highlights that precious metals currently represent only 0.5% of US savings assets, far below the four-decade mean of 2%, suggesting a potential fourfold demand increase if reversion occurs.

Turning to oil, Rule describes a structural supply deficit due to chronic underinvestment in sustaining capital, amounting to roughly a trillion and a half dollars. He contrasts this with temporary disruptions, warning that the coming shortage will require massive capital input and cannot be quickly resolved. On silver, he shares his recent speculative strategy: he sold silver after a hyperbolic price spike, reallocating to physical gold, oil stocks, and silver equities, which he views as offering better risk-reward profiles. Rule also discusses the mining sector, cautioning that rising input costs

Timestamps:

00:00:00 – Introduction

00:00:25 – Investing in Yourself

00:02:10 – Contrarian Investing Approach

00:03:50 – Gold Purchasing Power

00:06:00 – Gold Market Share Reversion

00:09:20 – Conditions to Sell Gold

00:11:00 – 1970s Inflation Parallels

00:12:30 – Rising Mining Costs

00:15:20 – Palisades Gold Corp

00:16:20 – Junior Mining Optionality

00:21:00 – Silver Speculation Strategy

00:24:50 – Silver Miners Valuation

00:26:20 – Oil Underinvestment Issues

00:37:50 – BattleBank Services

00:43:40 – Concluding Thoughts

Guest Links:

X: https://x.com/@realrickrule

Website: https://ruleinvestmentmedia.com

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RuleInvestmentMedia

Classroom: https://ruleclassroom.com

Battle Bank: https://battlebank.com

Rick Rule has dedicated his entire adult life to many aspects of natural resources securities investing. Besides the knowledge and experience gained in a long and focused career, he has a global network of contacts in the natural resources and finance sectors.

Mr. Rule is a frequent speaker at industry conferences and is regularly interviewed for radio, television, print, and online media outlets concerning natural resources investment and industry topics. Prominent natural resources-oriented newsletters and advisories frequently quote him. Mr. Rule and his team have expertise in many resource sectors, including agriculture, alternative energy, forestry, oil and gas, mining, and water.

Stijn Schmitz welcomes Dr. Nomi Prins back to the show. Dr. Prins is the Founder of Prinsights Global and she’s a regular writer on her Substack. The discussion opened with Dr. Prins identifying the most significant investment opportunities in a market she sees as distorted by exaggerated paper selling. She argued that silver presents the greatest potential due to a historic disconnect between its heavily traded paper price and a persistent six-year physical supply deficit. Despite price volatility driven by algorithmic and ETF trading, demand for physical ounces from industry, particularly from Asia for solar applications, remains insatiable. Pure-play silver miners, which remain highly profitable even at current price levels, are therefore positioned as attractive opportunities.

The conversation shifted to uranium, where a different dynamic prevails. Uranium prices have held a new, high platform level due to utility companies securing long-term contracts well above the spot price, a sector lacking a significant futures market. Consequently, uranium miners have underperformed the commodity itself, creating a clear re-rating opportunity for stocks. For gold, Dr. Prins highlighted that its bull case is supported by sustained central bank buying, particularly in Asia and the Middle East, as nations seek independence from dollar-based monetary policy. She noted that over the long term, gold has significantly outperformed inflation, purchasing power, and treasuries. With major producers sitting on large cash reserves and facing their own supply constraints, well-managed junior developers in favorable jurisdictions with high-grade assets are becoming prime targets for acquisition, offering significant upside.

On the oil and gas sector, Dr. Prins observed that markets have normalized to a stable trading range after war-related spikes. This stability, combined with the ongoing need to replenish depleted strategic petroleum reserves globally, supports current price levels. She pointed to specific opportunities in regions like South America, where companies are producing the right grade of crude, often offering high dividends to supply U.S. refineries historically reliant on heavier oil. Her firm’s strategy focuses on identifying these macro-driven distortions and vetting junior companies through rigorous analysis of management and jurisdictional stability.

Timestamps:

00:00:00 – Introduction

00:00:36 – Market Opportunity Overview

00:02:49 – Uranium Investment Opportunities

00:04:25 – Silver Supply Gap Analysis

00:09:18 – Gold Market Dynamics

00:11:34 – Central Banks and Gold

00:13:13 – Gold Performance vs Inflation

00:14:50 – Junior Miner Selection Criteria

00:15:54 – Oil Market Normalization

00:19:22 – Oil Quality and Investments

00:21:03 – Recommendations

Guest Links:

X: https://x.com/nomiprins

Website: https://nomiprins.com

Substack: https://prinsights.substack.com

Dr. Nomi Prins as a Wall Street insider and outspoken advocate for economic reform, Nomi Prins is a leading authority on how the widespread impact of financial systems continues to affect our daily lives. She has spent decades analyzing and investigating economic and financial events at the ground level and meeting with those that shape the world’s geopolitical-economic framework. She continues to break stories by conducting independent research, writing best-selling books, and traversing the globe to share her knowledge and demystify the world of money.

Before becoming a renowned journalist and public speaker, Nomi reached the upper echelons of the financial world where she worked as a managing director at Goldman Sachs, ran the international analytics group as a senior managing director at Bear Stearns in London, was a strategist at Lehman Brothers and an analyst at the Chase Manhattan Bank. During her time on Wall Street, she grew increasingly aware of and discouraged by the unethical practices that permeated the banking industry. Eventually, she decided enough was enough and became an investigative journalist to shed light on the ways that financial systems are manipulated to serve the interests of an elite few at the expense of everyone else.

Stijn Schmitz welcomes Tavi Costa back to the show. Tavi Costa is the Founder and CEO of Azuria Capital. Tavi outlines a bullish macro view for precious metals, arguing that the recent sell-off in gold and silver presents a compelling accumulation opportunity within a secular bull market. He notes that gold itself is down 25 to 30 percent, while quality producers have corrected 40 to 50 percent, leaving them technically oversold. He favors large, well-established miners such as Agnico Eagle and Newmont as liquid ways to play this window over the next six to twelve months. Silver is also in an accumulation phase, though he cautions against fixating on a single price entry point. Copper, which has remained resilient near all-time highs, is expected to surge dramatically once current headwinds fade, offering significant operating leverage in the mining equities.

Costa emphasizes the strategic role of energy in a resource portfolio, describing it as an efficient hedge for metals investors. He highlights the historically low weighting of energy in the S&P 500 and points to structural demand drivers like data centers, electrification, and onshoring. Natural gas, in his view, is the only near-term solution to meet this demand, given the longer timelines for nuclear or renewables. He sees opportunities in midstream assets and in Latin America, where excess energy supply could attract strategic partnerships. The conversation also touches on agricultural commodities, which Costa believes are consolidating in a pattern similar to oil before its breakout.

Regarding critical minerals, Costa expresses skepticism, calling the sector a “disease” marked by misallocated capital. He warns that institutional money chasing small markets like rare earths often overlooks poor business fundamentals, and he advises focusing instead on copper, gold, and silver, which offer clear structural demand and supply constraints. He distills his investment approach into three pillars: metals and mining, energy, and Latin America. Costa is currently in the process of launching a fund and shares his research on Substack, with a formal announcement expected soon.

Timestamps:

00:00:00 – Introduction

00:00:29 – Current Market Opportunities

00:01:04 – Gold and Silver Outlook

00:02:53 – Finding Quality Opportunities

00:06:55 – Oil & Gas Potential

00:09:30 – Natural Gas Demand Drivers

00:12:07 – Critical Minerals

00:14:50 – Copper Highs & Outlook

00:17:17 – Concluding Thoughts

Guest Links:

X: https://x.com/tavicosta

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/otavio-tavi-costa-76368628

Substack: https://tavicosta.substack.com

Otavio (“Tavi”) Costa is the Founder and CEO of Azuria Capital LLC. He invented a macro model that identifies the current stage of the U.S. economic cycle through a combination of 16 factors.

His research is regularly featured in financial publications such as Bloomberg, The Wall Street Journal, CCN, Financial Post, The Globe and Mail, Real Vision, and Reuters. Tavi is a native of São Paulo, Brazil, and fluent in Portuguese, Spanish, and English. Before joining Crescat, he worked with the underwriting of financial products and international business at Braservice, a large logistics company in Brazil.

Tavi graduated cum laude from Lindenwood University in St. Louis with a B.A. degree in Business Administration with an emphasis in Finance and a minor in Spanish. Tavi played NCAA Division 1 tennis for Liberty University.

Stijn Schmitz interviews Adrian Day at the 2026 Rule Symposium. Adrian Day is CEO of Adrian Day Asset Management and Manager of the EuroPacific Gold Fund. Adrian observes a significant opportunity in the resource sector, noting that gold and silver equities are trading at valuations near all-time lows, compounded by deeply negative sentiment. He points out that bullish sentiment for gold has plummeted to single digits, even hitting zero percent on one occasion, creating what he views as an exceptionally lopsided and contrarian setup. While acknowledging that gold bullion cannot be valued using traditional discounted cash flow models, he argues it is undervalued on an inflation-adjusted basis and relative to global debt and money supply, suggesting the current cycle has a long way to run before any potential overshoot.

Day emphasizes that key indicators for market tops are primarily sentiment-driven, such as overwhelming bullish media coverage, unsolicited stock tips from the public, and lines forming outside bullion dealers. Harder data points include accelerating flows into gold ETFs and the emergence of premiums on physical products. For investors new to or underweight the sector, he recommends buying across the spectrum, highlighting that even the largest, most conservative royalty and streaming companies are trading at historically low multiples. When evaluating junior exploration companies, his focus is overwhelmingly on the quality of the management team and the strength of the balance sheet, with the specific mineral property being the least important factor. He stresses the importance of management with a relevant track record and the presence of large, supportive, long-term shareholders who can ensure access to capital during difficult markets.

For mid-tier producers, he prefers companies with diversified assets in concentrated jurisdictions to mitigate single-mine risk. Briefly touching on other commodities, Day notes that oil and gas stocks have dramatically underperformed the broad market this year and have not retreated significantly from recent highs, though he is waiting for lower entry prices. He also sees potential in thermal coal projects serving Asian markets, where energy security has become a paramount concern.

Timestamps:

00:00:00 – Introduction

00:00:36 – Gold Opportunities and Sentiment

00:05:51 – Bull Bear Sentiment Indicators

00:10:05 – Transition to Gold Miners

00:17:06 – Mergers Acquisitions in Mining

00:20:07 – Evaluating Management Teams

00:22:43 – Oil and Gas Outlook

00:27:10 – Thermal Coal Investment Potential

00:28:47 – Concluding Thoughts

Guest Links:

Website: https://adrianday.com/

Adrian Day is considered a pioneer in promoting the benefits of global investing in the United Kingdom. A native of London, after graduating with honors from the London School of Economics, Mr. Day spent many years as a financial investment writer, where he gained a large following for his expertise in searching out unusual investment opportunities around the world. He has also authored two books on the subject of global investing: International Investment Opportunities: How and Where to Invest Overseas Successfully and Investing Without Borders. His latest book, widely praised by readers, is Investing in Resources: How to Profit from the Outsized Potential and Avoid the Risks (Wiley, 2010). Mr. Day is a recognized authority in both global and resource investing. He is frequently interviewed by the press, domestically and abroad. He is a popular speaker and is frequently invited to lecture at financial conferences and seminars around the world. His pleasures include fine dining, reading (especially history), and the opera.

Stijn Schmitz welcomes Michael Gentile to the show. Michael Gentile is Strategic Investor & Co-Founder, Bastion Asset Management. Gentile remains very bullish on precious metals, maintaining a five-to-ten-year investment horizon. He argues that short-term volatility in gold and silver does not alter the long-term macro thesis driven by unassailable U.S. debt levels. With U.S. debt approaching $40 trillion and interest expenses potentially consuming 40% of government revenues, Gentile sees currency debasement as the only path forward, which favors gold. He notes that while central bank buying has driven gold’s rise from $1,350 to over $4,000, mainstream investors still allocate only 1-2% of portfolios to gold, leaving significant room for a second wave of demand that could turbocharge prices.

Gentile highlights a historic opportunity in gold equities, where producers are generating record free cash flow due to expanding margins—from $400 to $2,000 per ounce—while tech company free cash flow dries up. This undervaluation extends to junior miners, where he focuses on resource-stage companies with assets that can realistically become mines. He seeks companies trading at $20-$50 per ounce in the ground that could be acquired for $300-$500 per ounce as majors deploy their high margins. He stresses that most juniors will never become mines, so rigorous asset selection is critical.

Beyond gold, Gentile discussed his first royalty investment in Silver Crown Royalties, attracted by its pure silver focus, cost-of-capital advantage, and ability to monetize byproduct silver from gold mines. He sees copper as having strong long-term supply-demand dynamics but finds better value in junior copper developers with buildable assets. He avoids niche commodities like tungsten due to unpredictable long-term pricing and stays away from short-term trading in oil and gas or fertilizer inputs, preferring deep, broad markets. Gentile announced a European roadshow in October, including a London conference featuring his top 20 portfolio companies.

Timestamps:

00:00:00 – Introduction

00:01:05 – Bullish on Precious Metals

00:03:21 – Impact of Middle East Conflict

00:08:53 – US Government Debt Analysis

00:13:48 – Gold Trend & Value

00:15:40 – Gold Producers Opportunity

00:19:12 – Why Juniors Provide Leverage

00:24:52 – Recent Big Investments

00:30:10 – Silver Crown Royalties Position

00:34:47 – Silver Thesis

00:38:42 – Critical Minerals like Tungsten

00:42:33 – Oil and Gas Outlook

00:46:06 – Copper Market Analysis

00:51:15 – Coal and Other Commodities

00:56:21 – Roadshow and Newsletter

Guest Links:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-gentile-01028552

Website: https://www.bastion-am.com/

Mining & Metals European Roadshow: https://saturdaymorningmining.subscribepage.io/

Michael Gentile, CFA is Founding Partner & Senior Portfolio Manager at Bastion Asset Management. Before founding BAM, Michael was Vice President and Senior Portfolio Manager at Formula Growth Ltd for over 17 years. Michael co-managed the FG Alpha Fund (US SMid equity market neutral) between 2012 and 2018, co-managed the FG Focus Fund (US SMid long short strategy) between 2014 and 2018. Since leaving FG in 2018, Michael has been very successful investing in the gold sector also acting as Strategic Advisor and Director for several companies in the natural resource sector. Michael graduated with Great Distinction from the John Molson School of Business (Concordia University) with a Bachelor of Commerce (Finance) and received the Calvin Potter Fellowship from Concordia’s Kenneth Woods Portfolio Management Program. He also holds the Chartered Financial Analyst designation (CFA)