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Dr. Rebecca Houvener, Psy.D. LCP
Personality Couch
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  • Personality Couch

    Ep 53: Antisocial Personality vs Psychopathy | What's the Difference?

    05/05/2026 | 28 mins.
    🎬In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) explore the complex distinctions between antisocial personality and psychopathy, delving into historical terminology, key theories, and nuanced subtypes. This episode offers a deep dive into dark personality traits and how they differ.

    ⚠️Note: this podcast does not constitute a professional relationship. If you're in need of professional help, please seek out appropriate resources in your area. ⚠️

    Chapters
    00:00 Intro & History of Antisocial vs Psychopathy
            00:36 Psychopath and Sociopath Defined
            01:54 Cleckley’s Mask of Sanity
    03:21 Psychodynamic Theory on Psychopathy vs Antisocial
    04:17 The DSM on Psychopathy vs Antisocial
    04:35 Michael Stone’s Negative Personality Spectrum
             05:15 Level 1: Negative Personalities
             05:41 Level 2: Narcissistic & Paranoid Personality Disorders
             07:10 Level 3: Malignant Narcissism
             08:43 Level 4: Antisocial Personality Disorder
             09:28 Level 5: Psychopathy
             10:20 Level 6: Sadistic Personality
    12:32 Robert Hare's Psychopathy Checklist
    13:54 Hare’s Psychopathy Checklist vs DSM Antisocial 
    17:20 Millon’s Theory on Psychopathy
             19:30 Spineless Psychopath
             19:43 Unprincipled Psychopath (Narcissistic Core) 
             19:51 Disingenuous Psychopath (Histrionic Core)
             21:13 Risk-Taking Psychopath (Histrionic & Antisocial Features)
             21:26 Covetous Psychopath (Antisocial Core)
             21:57 Malignant Psychopath (Paranoid Core)
             22:10 Abrasive Psychopath (Negativistic & Paranoid Features)
             22:21 Explosive Psychopath (Sadistic Core, Borderline Features)
             22:58 Malevolent Psychopath (Paranoid & Sadistic Features)
             23:34 Tyrannical Psychopath (Negativistic & Sadistic Features)
    24:19 Our Thoughts
    27:14 Summary & Conclusion
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    Ep 52: The 6 Antisocial Subtypes

    21/04/2026 | 44 mins.
    🎬In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack the passive-parasitic and aggressive subtypes from history before jumping into Dr. Theodore Millon’s 6 subtypes. At the mild level, we look at: the Covetously Aggrandizing & Disaffected Aggrandizing Antisocials. At the moderate level, we explore the Risk-Taking Devious and Reputation-Defending Devious Antisocials. At the severe/disordered level, we discuss the Nomadic & Malevolent Antisocial Subtypes. We end with our thoughts and opinions about the line for disorder and explain why the antisocial personality is so challenging to understand. 

    ⚠️Note: this podcast does not constitute a professional relationship. If you're in need of professional help, please seek out appropriate resources in your area. ⚠️

    Chapters
    0:00 Intro to Antisocial’s Historical Names
    02:16 Are antisocials born or made (psychopath vs sociopath)? 
    03:14 Passive-parasitic and Aggressive Antisocials
    04:32 What is a Normal Antisocial Personality?
              04:40 The Adventurer
              05:45 The Unconventional Antisocial  
    08:28 Intro to Millon’s 6 Subtypes
    08:48 Mild Level: Aggrandizing Antisocial
              09:59 Does Dominance Fill an Inner Void?
              10:52 The Covetously Aggrandizing Antisocial 
              11:22 Criminal Behavior at the Mild Level
              15:11 The Disaffected Aggrandizing Antisocial
              17:06 Proneness to Addiction
              18:11 Proneness to Infidelity
              19:02 Contrasting the Mild Types
    20:25 Moderate Level: The Devious Antisocial
              21:39 Risk-Taking Devious (Histrionic & Turbulent Features)
              25:56 Reputation-Defending Antisocial (Narcissistic & Sadistic Features)
              27:24 Proneness to Criminal Behavior 
              28:02 Relationship & Work Challenges
              29:17 What Are They Defending?
    31:17 Severe Level: Antisocial Personality Disorder
              31:45 Nomadic Antisocial (Schizoid & Avoidant Features)
              33:18 Doom & Invincibility Focus
              36:54 Malevolent Antisocial (Sadistic & Paranoid Features)
    41:49 Our Thoughts & Opinions
    43:46 Summary & Conclusion
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    Ep 51: A New Psychoanalysis of Antisocial Personality Disorder

    07/04/2026 | 31 mins.
    🎬In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) dive deep into the complex inner world of antisocial personality disorder, challenging the traditional DSM view and exploring psychoanalytic theory to uncover the internal processes behind antisocial behaviors. This episode is essential for clinicians, students, and anyone interested in understanding the motivations and defenses of antisocial individuals. ⚠️Note: this podcast does not constitute a professional relationship. If you're in need of professional help, please seek out appropriate resources in your area. ⚠️

    Chapters
    00:00 Intro & Limitations of Antisocial in DSM
    02:48 Causes of Antisocial Personality
         03:30 Genetic Studies
         05:21 Environmental Studies
    07:34 Attachment & Antisocial Personality
    12:23 Inside the Antisocial’s Psyche: 
         12:29 Depression & Emptiness
         14:55 Shame & Self-Importance
    17:09 Defense Mechanisms in the Antisocial
         17:42 Omnipotent Control
         20:54 Projective Identification
         21:49 Dissociation 
         23:26 Acting Out 
    26:34 Biological & Neuropsychological Processes of Antisocials 
    28:37 Perverse & Distorted Sexuality in Antisocials
    30:07 Summary & Conclusion
  • Personality Couch

    Ep 50: Antisocial Personality: Everything I Learned is Wrong

    24/03/2026 | 41 mins.
    In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack some of our difficulties understanding antisocial personality disorder in how it combines psychology, morality, philosophy, and societal judgment. We focus on: where’s the line for disorder; how can we diagnose without judgment; and what does this personality look like when it’s not disordered? We pull from historical examples of antisocial types in specialized roles and also hypothesize that America might have transitioned from a narcissistic nation to an antisocial one. 

    🆘In need of psychodynamic therapy or a psychological evaluation? OR are you a provider stuck on a tricky case? To schedule with us, please visit the practice website and fill out the inquiry form! 👉https://www.questpsych.org. Clinicians use the email listed on the website.  

    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction to Antisocial Personality & DSM Problems
    02:46 Antisocial Personality Defined in the PDM
    07:02 Where’s the Disorder Line?
    17:29 Other Dark & Criminal Personalities
    21:08 Morality & Antisocial Traits in Specialized Professions
    23:37 Are We An Antisocial Society in America?
    30:43 Are Antisocials Treatable?
    34:37 Holding Empathy & Accountability for Antisocials
    40:00 Closing Quote
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    Ep 49: Antisocial Personality: The DSM Trash Can Diagnosis for Criminals?

    10/03/2026 | 29 mins.
    In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) begin our much-awaited series on antisocial personality disorder! In the DSM, antisocial personality is the only diagnosis that includes law-breaking as a criterion. But surely all criminals can’t have the same personality, right? In this episode, we break down its stigmatized history while sharing our thoughts and opinions about the DSM’s limitations. We take a critical look at each of the DSM’s 7 criteria, while also discussing the overlap with other disorders like narcissism, psychopathy, and the sadistic personality. 

    🆘In need of psychodynamic therapy or a psychological evaluation? OR are you a provider stuck on a tricky case? To schedule with us, please visit the practice website and fill out the inquiry form! 👉https://www.questpsych.org. Clinicians use the email listed on the website.  

    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction & History of Antisocial Personality Disorder
    05:21 DSM Criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder
         07:06: Criterion 1: Unlawful Behavior
         09:32: Criterion 2: Deceitfulness & Manipulation  
         12:49 Criterion 3: Impulsivity 
         15:27 Criterion 4: Irritability & Aggression
         16:21 Criterion 5: Disregard for Safety
         17:44 Criterion 6: Irresponsibility  
         20:08 Criterion 7: Lack of Remorse
    21:42 Antisocial Personality & Aging
    25:05 Our Critiques & Thoughts

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About Personality Couch

We all encounter personality conflict on a regular basis, whether we know it or not. From funky, can’t-quite-put-my-finger-on-it dynamics with that one friend or family member, to the big blowup drama at work with the last person you’d expect, it all comes down to personality. Join clinical psychologists, Dr. Rebecca Houvener, Psy.D, (“Doc Bok”) and Dr. Cheyenne Fisher, Psy.D., (“Doc Fish”) biweekly as they unpack the most complex topics like personality disorders and psychopathic behavior, while also making room for lighthearted discussions about personality typologies and humorous anecdotes from private practice. Whether you’re fascinated by personality darkness, a concerned friend or loved one, an “armchair psychologist,” or a licensed professional convinced there is something more going on with patients…. This show is for you.
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