What if the biggest spiritual lesson isn’t “trust Spirit”… but stop outsourcing your power?
In this Soul Chats with Spirit Daddy conversation — a spontaneous, no-filters mini-series with Jeni Holla and Rick Chiantaretto exploring the mystical, the messy, and the middle ground of living a soul-led life — they unpack what it really looks like to take spirituality off the pedestal.
Jeni shares what’s been unfolding behind the scenes: stepping into full-time work again, releasing old timelines around “success,” reevaluating the April retreat, and letting go of the pressure to constantly promote, fill, and prove.
Rick brings his signature grounded mystic energy into the conversation — calling out hierarchy in spiritual spaces, exploring guru/pedestal dynamics, and naming the subtle feedback loop that can form when seekers outsource their power to teachers, modalities, and “secret answers.”
Together they explore the deeper truth beneath it all:
co-creation over dependence. discernment over devotion. sovereignty over seeking.
🪶 Featured Topics
Spirituality on a pedestal: “Spirit should take care of me”
Retreats, business, and releasing old timelines
Money, debt, identity, and energetic evolution
Guru culture + the seeker loop
Co-creation vs spiritual dependence
Discernment, empowerment, and sovereignty
✨ Connect with Rick
IG: @tarot.fellow
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✨ Connect with Jeni
IG: @iamjeniholla
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