S4 Ep16: Inside Canva’s Move from PLG to Enterprise-Led Growth
What happens when one of the most beloved product-led growth (PLG) companies in the world starts thinking like an enterprise software giant?In this episode of That’s What I Call Marketing, I sit down with Emma R, Global Head of Demand at Canva, to explore the company's fascinating evolution—from a self-serve tool for creatives to a serious enterprise-grade platform used by the world’s biggest brands.We discuss:*Why B2B marketing needs more emotion and less jargon*How Canva blends fun with functionality (yes, even for the C-Suite)*The role AI is playing across both product and marketing workflows*How the team is navigating the shift from bottom-up adoption to top-down enterprise sales*What marketers can learn about testing, localisation, and scaling with culture*This one’s packed with sharp thinking, practical lessons, and a few great stories 02:32 – Intro: Canva, Creativity, and Conor’s Fan Moment04:32 – Emma’s Tech & Marketing Journey (From Salesforce to Canva)06:32 – Falling in Love with the Product: Why it Matters in Marketing08:17 – From Rap Launches to Enterprise Strategy: Bold Moves in B2B10:32 – Why B2B Marketing Needs a Human Touch12:02 – Understanding the Modern Buyer Journey (Gen Z, Self-Serve, TikTok)13:32 – Test, Learn, Scale: What Works and What Doesn't15:32 – How Canva Uses AI Internally (And Where It Adds Real Value)18:32 – The Shift to Enterprise: New Teams, Skills & Sales Models21:17 – Product-Led Growth vs Enterprise Motion: Why Both Matter24:32 – Changing Perceptions: Canva as a Serious Enterprise Tool26:32 – KPIs, Pipeline, and the Role of Brand in Driving Growth28:02 – Local vs Global: Cultural Nuance and International Rollout32:32 – Why Localisation Really Matters34:32 – What’s Next for Canva Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S4 Ep15: How Bold Brands Win Attention (and Keep It) with CMO Kerel Cooper
What does it really take to win attention in today’s chaotic marketing landscape — and keep it? In this episode of That’s What I Call Marketing, I sit down with Kerel Cooper, Chief Marketing Officer of GumGum, to talk about building bold brands, why B2B doesn’t have to be boring, and how contextual advertising is reshaping the future of media.Kerel’s career has taken him from ad ops to the CMO seat, and he brings a rare mix of empathy, commercial acumen, and brand belief. We unpack how marketing to humans (not personas), respecting attention, and aligning with sales builds real business impact. Plus: the role of AI, the evolving global-local marketing balance, and what brands get right (or wrong) about DEI.🔥 This is a must-listen for any marketer who’s rethinking what B2B branding can really mean.2:43 – Career Journey and Transitions6:37 – Joining GumGum and Marketing Philosophy8:22 – Contextual Advertising and Consumer Connection11:51 – Attention in Advertising14:43 – Marketing Strategies and Team Focus17:58 – Collaborative Sales and Account Management18:20 – Building Healthy Working Relationships20:52 – Balancing Process and Revenue24:06 – Adapting Strategies for Global Markets27:28 – Leveraging AI and Technology in Marketing29:27 – Promoting Diversity and InclusionThis episode is in partnership with Freedman International Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S4 Ep14: The Future of Marketing Is Messy with Stephanie Parry
Stephanie Parry, EVP of Client Management at JellyFish joins to talk about messy marketing. From AI-generated creative to navigating culture clashes in global teams, this episode dives into the chaos and opportunity shaping modern marketing. Stephanie shares lessons from building client relationships that actually last, the tension between global strategy and local nuance, and what it really takes to lead in today’s ever-evolving landscape.We talk:– The rise of creative AI (and why human judgement still matters)– What marketers can learn from working across Paris, New York, and Mumbai– Building trust with clients — beyond deliverables– How DEI, sustainability, and bold ideas can (and must) coexist– And why listening might be the most underrated marketing skill of allIf you’re feeling overwhelmed by change — this one will help you make sense of the mess, and maybe even embrace it. For curious marketers, bold brand thinkers, and anyone trying to figure out what comes next.02:45 – A Global Career Built on Curiosity 05:18 – Learning French, Failing French, Trying Anyway 06:45 – Building Deep Client Relationships That Last 08:36 – Global vs Local: The Real Challenge 11:02 – The Art of Listening in Leadership 13:20 – A Lesson That Changed Everything 17:55 – What Clients Are Asking About AI Right Now 19:32 – Creative AI Tools That Actually Work 21:15 – Abundance of Creative, Not Just Automation 24:00 – Bravery in the Age of AI 26:40 – Push for Transparency and Accountability 27:30 – DEI, Modern Masculinity and Creative Culture 28:45 – Cannes, Contradictions and Creative Joy 30:00 – Final Thoughts: Listen. Lead. Be Bold.Thanks to Freedman International for sponsoring The Cannes Sessions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Cannes Sessions - Daily Round Up 19/06/25
Day 4 of the Cannes Sessions and you will heard from David Droga, Billionaire & Passes Founder Lucy Guo, Karen Bennett US MD for Jellyfish, Sarah Vincent Managing Director UK, Utiq & Anders Littner brandmetrics as well as a round up of the week with Kevin Freedman talks about– Why Walmart’s in-store teams are using Canva– How Strava redesigned its algorithm with purpose at the core– The return of brand marketing (and the quiet death of retargeting)– What Tony’s Chocolonely can teach us about real brand conviction. If you aren't here don't worry, we have you covered with the inside track. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Cannes Sessions - Daily Round Up 18/06/25
Day 3 from the Cannes Lions Festival of Creativity and we take you behind the scenes of into the judging room, chat to Jimmi McGrath of Droga5 about the judging process, we go behind the scenes into the work and what is winning, you will hear from Jung A Kim from Innocean & Sungwoon Jee CMO of Hyundai about their Grand Prix win. All about the work today Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Conor Byrne hosts That's What I Call Marketing meeting some of the most incredible marketing minds in our industry, CMO's, founders and marketing leaders from across the globe, this podcast tackles the big issues facing marketers today, as well as providing inspiration by hearing the incredible stories marketing leaders share of their journey to the top. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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