513 : Book Club of Blood - Son of Celluloid
In Episode 513, Ryan and Jose are joined by David Blair for another Book Club of Blood. This time, we cover "Son of Celluloid". This is the Clive Barker Podcast, where long-time fans Ryan and Jose interview guests, bring you the news, and take deep dives into Barker-related stuff. This episode will be available in Podcast Audio and Youtube Video. 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Of Blood Vol. 3 | Son of Celluloid  Show Notes Eclipse Graphic Novel adaptation Les Edwards' Site Son Of Celluloid on Revelations & early attempt at Film Adaptation  Feedback / Questions Thoughts from Reddit Thoughts from Discord Coming Next Hellraiser Revival Discord Interviews and news Book Club of Blood: Rawhead Rex And this podcast, having no beginning will have no end.  web www.clivebarkercast.com Apple Podcasts, Android, Amazon Music, Spotify, Pandora, Libsyn, Tunein, iHeart Radio, Pocket Casts, Radio.com, and YouTube and Facebook: | BarkerCast Listeners Group | Occupy Midian BlueSky | Reddit | Discord Community  Support the show Buy Our Book: The BarkerCast Interviews Occupy Midian Hardcover | Kindle | Apple Become a Patreon Patron | Buy a T-Shirt  Music is by Ray Norrish  All Links and show notes in their Entirety can be found at https://www.clivebarkercast.com  ----------  AI Summary  The group began transitioning into an in-depth analysis of Clive Barker's "Son of Celluloid," exploring its narrative structure, themes, and character development. They examined various aspects of the story, including its cinematic references, character motivations, and the decline of traditional movie theaters, while sharing personal memories of past theater experiences. The discussion concluded with an exploration of the story's themes of illusions and reality, monster encounters, and the challenges of adapting Barker's work into different media formats.   They then began analyzing Clive Barker's "Son of Celluloid," discussing its narrative structure divided into three acts and its themes of ambition and cancer as metaphors. The story follows Barbario, a fugitive criminal who hides in an old movie theater and watches a Fellini film while bleeding to death, unaware that his cancer is the result of his dangerous lifestyle. The group noted that while the story contains dated references to Marilyn Monroe and John Wayne, it effectively captures the nostalgia of old movie theaters and the magic of cinema.   The group discussed Clive Barker's story about a theater that became haunted after changing from a place of worship to a cinema, with José explaining how the building accumulated decades of audience emotions and became a "cathedral of collective dreams." They explored the character development of Birdie, the ticket lady who is bored and self-conscious about her weight, and how her intelligence becomes her strength when facing the antagonist. The conversation also touched on the decline of cinema attendance and the specific details of the Tron Ares movie, including Bruce Boxleitner's decision not to reprise his role as Tron.  Memories of Classic Movie Theaters The group discussed their memories of old movie theaters, including the smell of cigarettes and popcorn, torn seats, and pre-movie slides advertising local businesses. They shared their first movie theater experiences, with Ryan remembering "Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger" and Blair recalling "Star Wars" at a drive-in. José shared his fond memories of watching "E.T." as a child and mentioned the original darker treatment for the film. The conversation then shifted to Ricky's investigation of Lindy Lee's boyfriend in the bathroom, where he unexpectedly finds himself in a Western-themed setting. Monster's Failed Illusion Tactics The group discussed the story's themes of illusions manifesting in reality, particularly focusing on a scene where a monster creates a John Wayne illusion to threaten characters. They analyzed how the monster's aggressive approach failed when Ricky punched the illusion, leading to its dissolution. The discussion highlighted Ricky's character contrast with Birdie's correct choices, and noted that the monster would likely try a different tactic after this failed attempt at intimidation. Horror at the Movie Theater The group discussed a horror story involving a movie theater, where Birdie discovers a bloody scene and an unconscious man, while Lindy Lee disappears after seeing a bunny. Birdie attempts to call for help but is thwarted by a mysterious voice that locks the doors, forcing her to retrieve keys from Ricky. Despite her initial fear, Birdie wisely decides to seek help rather than stay trapped, and she eventually finds the body of a victim whose eyes have been violently removed. Marilyn Monster Seduction Analysis The group discussed a scene from a graphic novel where a monster in the form of Marilyn Monroe seduces Ricky, leading to his death. They analyzed the visual and narrative elements, including the use of flickering lights to create the illusion and the monster's need for attention. The conversation touched on themes of immortality through pop culture icons and Ricky's foolish decision to engage with the monster despite the danger. They also briefly mentioned Birdie's attempt to defend herself with a crowbar. Psychic Monster Comic Adaptation The group discussed the comic adaptation of a story involving a monster that feeds on psychic energy from moviegoers. They analyzed key plot points, including Birdie's armed defense against attackers, her escape attempt through a theater fire exit, and her confrontation with the monster. José highlighted the monster's transformation and its connection to the character Barbario, while Ryan and Blair noted the story's exploration of themes like ambition, waste, and the impact of movies on people's lives. The discus Adapting 'Son of Celluloid The group discussed Clive Barker's "Son of Celluloid," focusing on its themes of body horror, celebrity worship, and the dangers of spectatorship. They explored the challenges of adapting the story into a film, particularly regarding the use of real celebrities' likenesses. José shared insights from Barker's early attempts to pitch the story to studios and the eventual difficulties in securing funding. The conversation also touched on the graphic novel adaptation by Steve Niles and Les Edwards, highlighting its painted artwork and the availability of original pages for sale. The group agreed to explore the story further in their next episode, which will focus on "Rawhead Rex."
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