The Clive Barker Podcast

Jose and I love doing movie commentaries, but we have run out of films to cover!  The series "Commentary on Clive's Contemporaries"   allows us to look in the background and see what movies were happening when these Clive Barker movies and sequels were being made.  We choose a range of movies, and you, the listeners, vote for which one we cover. This series was sponsored by our listeners in the 2025 Kickstarter Campaign, Clive Barker Podcast Presents Fundraiser 11 : The Patron Configuration and covers a range of years from 1973 (Salome) to 2024 (Night of the Zoopocalypse) and beyond.  
So Far:
1973 -- The Forbidden VS. Enter the Dragon
1978 -- Salome Vs. Invasion of the Body Snatchers
1985 -- Transmutations VS. Silver Bullet
1986 – Rawhead Rex VS. Big Trouble In Little China
1987 - Hellraiser VS. Prince of Darkness
1987 - Hellraiser VS. Angelheart
Commentary:
1987 - Prince of Darkness | 1h42m
Directed by John Carpenter
Written by John Carpenter
Show Notes
DVD Commentary
Alice Cooper: Prince of Darkness
Filmmaker John Carpenter in The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
John Carpenter Curating Horror Movie Marathon at TCM this July!
Underworld in 4K
Our Commentary on JoJo Baby
Feedback Spotlight
From YouTube
Coming Next
Clive's Contemporary Commentaries : 1987 - Angelheart
News and Interviews
BCOB – The Inhuman Condition
And this podcast, having no beginning will have no end.
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In Episode 532, Ryan and Jose are joined by David Blair for another Book Club of Blood episode. This time, we cover Volume 4's "The Body Politic".  Ples we get into some Hellraiser news and shoutouts to our friends.
 
This is the Clive Barker Podcast, where long-time fans Ryan and Jose interview guests, bring you the news, and take deep dives into Barker-related stuff.  This episode will be available in Podcast Audio and Youtube Video.
 
 
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From the Reef
New Boom Studios Hellraiser Comics
Hellraiser Revival Release Date and Gameplay!!!
Trick or Treat Studios figurines available on Pre-Order (Bundle or Separate)
 
 
Book Club of Blood Discussion:
Books. Of Blood Vol. 4 | The Body Politic
 
Show Notes
Quicksilver Highway | On YouTube
The Body Book
Dr. Seuss "What Was I Scared of?"
 
Feedback / Questions
Reddit
Facebook Page
Listeners Group
 
Coming Next
Clive's Contemporary Commentaries : 1987 (Prince of Darkness / Angel Heart)
News and Interviews
BCOB – The Inhuman Condition
 
Shoutouts
Roger's Album
Review of Danny's Book
Joseph Edwards from Lexington KY
 
 
Patreon Members Shout-Out (Become a Patron)
David Anderson
Erik Van T' Holt
Daniel Elven
Amanda Stewart
Bradley Gartz
Markus
Matthew Batten
Bennett
Jesse
Timothy Ramakers
Terry Murdock
John-John
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AI Recap
 
This was episode 532 of the Clive Barker Podcast, where the hosts returned after a month-long break to discuss news and analyze "The Body Politic" story from Volume 4. They covered recent Hellraiser developments including new one-shot comics from Boom Studios focusing on different Cenobites, the upcoming Hellraiser game releasing October 8th, and new Trick or Treat Studios action figures. The main discussion centered on "The Body Politic," a story about Charlie George whose hands rebel against his body, exploring themes of revolution, control, and the consequences of breaking away from societal structures. The hosts analyzed the story's metaphors, its film adaptation in "Quicksilver Highway," and received feedback from listeners about their experiences with the story. They also discussed upcoming commentary tracks for Prince of Darkness and Angel Heart.
 
Summary
Hellraiser Comic Series Announcements
The podcast hosts discussed recent Hellraiser news, including Boom Studios' announcement of five new Hellraiser one-shot comics titled "Hellraiser Resurrections" focusing on different Cenobites. They reviewed details about each comic's plot and characters, noting that these appear to be standalone stories that could potentially lead to a new series. The discussion also covered a successful Kickstarter campaign called "Leviathan's Vault" that raised nearly $900,000 to reissue Hellraiser comics, including volumes from 2011 and various limited series. The conversation concluded with a brief mention of the Hellraiser revival game, though details about this were not provided in the transcript segment.
Hellraiser Game and Figures Release
The group discussed the upcoming release of a Hellraiser game on October 8th, with José sharing details from gameplay demos including melee attacks, gunplay, puzzles, and a crafting system. They also discussed new Trick or Treat Studios Hellraiser figures that are available for pre-order, with an estimated shipping date of December 9, 2026, and a special bundle price of $159.96. The figures will be 8 inches tall with some articulation features, and were sculpted by Alexander Ray.
Clive Barker's "The Body Politic
The group discussed Clive Barker's story "The Body Politic," focusing on its extended metaphor about body parts rebelling against the control of the brain. They analyzed how the story explores themes of revolution, tyranny, and the consequences of following a wrong leader, particularly through the character of Charlie George whose hands conspire against him. The discussion included details about the film adaptation in "Quicksilver Highway" and compared it to the original story, noting differences in the ending where Charlie jumps from a roof followed by the hands, leading to their collective doom.
Clive Barker's "The Collection" Analysis
The group discussed Clive Barker's short story "The Collection" and its film adaptation, focusing on themes of revolution and the body's autonomy. They analyzed how the story explores the concept of body parts rebelling against their owners, with José noting the film's cameos including Clive Barker and John Landis. The discussion concluded with speculation about which body part would be most terrifying if it rebelled, with eyes and butts being particular points of concern.
Clive Barker Story Discussion
The group discussed Clive Barker's short story "The Body Politic," sharing personal reactions and experiences, including one listener's connection to the story through a personal injury. They reviewed comments from Reddit and their listeners' group, noting the story's themes of revolution and control. The team announced their next content will be audio commentaries for the 1987 films "Prince of Darkness" and "Angel Heart," chosen after a tie vote between those films and "Hellraiser." They also mentioned upcoming content including "The Inhuman Condition" in their Book Club of Blood series.

In Episode 531, Jose and Ryan go over some Hellraiser and Nightbreed convention and video game news, and all the places you can find tyour favorite Hellraiser people!  This is the Clive Barker Podcast, where long-time fans Ryan and Jose interview guests, bring you the news, and take deep dives into Barker-related stuff.  This episode will be available in Podcast Audio and Youtube Video. 
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2001: The Future's Not What it Used to Be
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News from the Reef
Nightbreed Trailer 4K by Arrow Video on YouTube
Hellraiser Revival New Preorders – Cenobite Collector's Edition
Hellraiser: Revival New Dev Diary: Cenobites
Temple of the Killer Tiger Monkeys Audio
Deadly Prey gallery post of the Ghana Hellraiser poster
Cenobite Actors will be at more conventions: Mad Monster Party Arizona July 2026 – Simon B., Nick V. and Doug Bradley
Days of The Dead Chicago via Peter Atkins (November 2026) More about this event here!
Hellraiser Days of the Dead Atlanta 2027! via Peter Atkins (Huge Reunion Jan 22-24)

Coming Next
More News and Interviews
Book Club of Blood – The Body Politic
Clive's Contemporaries: 1987 (Cast your vote)
Patreon Members Shout-Out (Become a Patron)
David Anderson
Erik Van T' Holt
Daniel Elven
Amanda Stewart
Bradley Gartz
Markus
Matthew Batten
Bennett
Jesse
Timothy Ramakers
Terry Murdock
John-John
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AI Summary
Ryan and José recorded episode 531 of their Clive Barker podcast, discussing recent news including Arrow Video's new 4K restoration of Nightbreed with both theatrical and director's cuts, featuring new extras and a companion book. They reviewed the Hellraiser Revival game's Cenobite Collector's Edition, comparing it to the previous Leviathan edition and noting the lack of a signed Clive Barker print as a key difference. The hosts watched a new developer diary for the game, showcasing more detailed Cenobite animations and gameplay footage with Doug Bradley's voice work. They also discussed upcoming Hellraiser conventions including Mad Monster Party in Arizona and Days of the Dead events in Chicago and Atlanta, featuring several Cenobite actors. The podcast concluded with plans for their next book club discussion of "The Body Politic" from Books of Blood Volume 4 and a vote on which 1987 film to compare to Hellraiser.
Hellraiser Developer Diary Discussion
Ryan and José discussed technical issues with audio and video settings before planning to watch a developer diary video about Cenobytes and Pinhead from the Hellraiser series. José shared a link to a YouTube video and they briefly discussed its content, though Ryan only watched a 30-second preview due to the initial link issue. The conversation ended with Ryan asking about "Team French" but the question remained unclear due to audio issues.
Nightbreed 4K Restoration Discussion
José and Ryan discussed a new 4K restoration of the film Nightbreed, including both theatrical and director's cuts, with enhanced features like Dolby Vision HDR, new artwork, and a companion book. They reflected on previous collector's editions and debated whether physical media releases, including 4K, would continue to be relevant given the rise of digital formats. Both agreed that while digital media is growing, physical media will likely persist in some form, particularly for collectors and professionals in the film industry.
Physical Media's Enduring Relevance
José and Ryan discussed the ongoing relevance of physical media in the age of streaming services. They noted that while streaming has become popular, limitations in internet speeds and the temporary nature of licensed content on platforms like Netflix mean physical media will likely continue to have a place. They highlighted how streaming platforms have shifted focus toward producing their own content rather than licensing existing material, leading viewers to seek out older content on alternative platforms like YouTube. The conversation concluded with appreciation for companies like Arrow, Shout Factory, and Turbine Media that continue to produce physical media releases.
Nightbreed 4K Release Discussion
Ryan and José discussed a new Arrow Video 4K release of Nightbreed, comparing the UK and potential US versions. They noted that the UK release includes exclusive extras like behind-the-scenes footage and UK-specific content, though they were uncertain if these features would be included in the US version. The UK release is priced at 30 pounds, which Ryan and José considered a good deal, though they agreed to wait for the US release to potentially save money and see if it includes similar extras.
Hellraiser Game Edition Comparisons
José and Ryan discussed the differences between various editions of the Hellraiser Revival game, including the new Cenobite Collector's Edition priced at $199. They compared features between the Leviathan Edition and Cenobite Edition, noting that the Leviathan includes a hand-signed art print while the Cenobite edition features a Cenobite statue and other exclusive items. The discussion highlighted concerns about the long pre-order period, which has been ongoing for about a year since the last pre-order update in June 2025, and they noted that the new dev diary "Cenobytes" provides additional footage of Cenobites in the game.
Hellraiser Revival Collector's Edition Discussion
José and Ryan discussed a Hellraiser Revival Collector's Edition, which includes a Cenobite statue, puzzle box, enamel pins, and a digital soundtrack. They watched a dev diary video showcasing the game's features, including platforming elements and various Cenobite characters. The video highlighted the game's focus on grotesque scenes and jump scares, with Doug Bradley's involvement adding credibility to the project. José and Ryan noted the game's potential for a gradual descent into horror, similar to Big Trouble in Little China, and expressed hope for an upcoming release date announcement.
Temple of the Killer Tiger Monkeys
Ryan and José discussed the audio drama "Temple of the Killer Tiger Monkeys," which features original Cenobite actors including Doug Bradley, Simon Bamford, and Nicholas Vince. They agreed to create a future podcast episode about the series, potentially including an interview with Simon Banford. The conversation also covered Ghanaian movie posters, specifically a Hellraiser poster by artist Heavy J, which is now available for purchase through Deadly Prey Gallery. Finally, they mentioned upcoming Hellraiser and Nightbreed conventions featuring the Cenobite actors.
Horror Conventions and Content Planning
José and Ryan discussed upcoming horror conventions, including Mad Monster Party Arizona in July 2026 and Days of the Dead events in Chicago and Atlanta. They expressed interest in meeting Peter Atkins at the Chicago event in November 2026, with both planning to discuss time off work to attend. José also mentioned upcoming content plans, including a book club discussion of "The Body Politic" from Books of Blood Volume 4 and a vote on a 1987 movie to compete against Hellraiser.
Horror Movies Discussion
Ryan and José discussed various horror movies, including The Lost Boys, Prince of Darkness, The Gate, Bad Taste, Angel Heart, Beaks, and Iron Warrior. They shared their opinions on these films, with José expressing a preference for Bad Taste due to its chaotic nature. Ryan mentioned his interest in watching Prince of Darkness, The Gate, or Angel Heart again. They also briefly discussed actor Stephen Dorff's role in The Gate and his appearance in Blade. The conversation concluded with José mentioning Nicholas Vince's recent campaign for the Green Party in the UK elections.
UK Elections and Media Discussion
José and Ryan discussed recent local elections in the UK, with Ryan encouraging José to vote for Nicholas Vince in future elections. They then talked about editing a podcast episode, noting that while some parts like screen sharing would be easy to edit out, removing fillers like "ums" would be more time-consuming. The conversation concluded with a discussion about a Hellraiser script booklet, comparing different versions and discussing whether certain autographs were real or printed.

ose and I love doing movie commentaries, but we have run out of films to cover!  The series "Commentary on Clive's Contemporaries"   allows us to look in the background and see what movies were happening when these Clive Barker movies and sequels were being made.  We choose a range of movies, and you, the listeners, vote for which one we cover. This series was sponsored by our listeners in the 2025 Kickstarter Campaign, Clive Barker Podcast Presents Fundraiser 11 : The Patron Configuration and covers a range of years from 1973 (Salome) to 2024 (Night of the Zoopocalypse) and beyond.   
So Far
1973 — The Forbidden VS. Enter the Dragon
1978 — Salome Vs. Invasion of the Body Snatchers
1985 — Transmutations VS. Silver Bullet
1986 – Rawhead Rex VS. Big Trouble In Little China
Commentary:
1986 – Big Trouble In Little China 1h 39m
Directed by John Carpenter
Written by Gary Goldman, David Z. Weinstein, W.D. Richter
Show Notes
Behind the Scenes
Music Video
The Temple of the Killer Tiger Monkeys Podcast Features Hellraiser cast and James Pax (Lightning) 
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AI Overview
Ryan and José conducted a detailed analysis and discussion of the 1986 film "Big Trouble in Little China" as part of their Clive Barker podcast series focused on comparing Clive Barker's films with contemporary works. They examined the film's production, including its $100,000 Guardian creature puppet, visual effects by Richard Edlund and Steve Johnson, and the Fox backlot sets used for filming. The hosts discussed the film's characters, particularly James Hong's performance as Lopan, and analyzed key scenes including the supernatural battles and optical effects. They compared the film favorably to previous episodes' selections like "Rawhead Rex" and "Transmutations," concluding that "Big Trouble in Little China" was more entertaining and well-executed. The podcast included technical difficulties with Ryan's Blu-ray player and audio issues, but they managed to complete their thorough analysis of the film's narrative structure, special effects, and cultural significance.
Clive Barker Podcast Discussion
Ryan and José discussed their podcast episode focusing on Clive Barker's Contemporary Commentaries for 1986, where they selected Big Trouble in Little China for comparison with Barker's film. They reflected on previous comparisons, with José favoring Enter the Dragon over The Forbidden and both preferring Salome over Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The conversation ended with them preparing to discuss Big Trouble in Little China after the opening 20th Century Fox logo.
Big Trouble in Little China Analysis
José and Ryan discussed the film Big Trouble in Little China, focusing on its reception as a flop at the time of release despite now being considered one of John Carpenter's best movies. They analyzed the character dynamics, particularly how Jack Burton's story takes a backseat to Wang's narrative, and discussed the film's unique blend of grounded and fantasy elements. The conversation also covered the film's production history, including casting considerations and a 2014 comic book continuation that picks up where the film ends.
Big Trouble in Little China Analysis
Ryan and José discussed the film "Big Trouble in Little China," focusing on its action sequences, characters, and supernatural elements. They analyzed specific scenes, including the extended ending with the red Camaro and the fight sequences involving different gangs. José noted the film's stylized aspects and questioned the realism of certain scenes, while both discussed the film's supernatural villains and their abilities. They also reflected on their childhood experiences watching the movie and its cultural impact.
Big Trouble in Little China Discussion
José and Ryan discussed the movie "Big Trouble in Little China," focusing on various aspects including character details, special effects, cinematography, and music. They explored specific plot points, such as the roles of characters like Jack Burton, Gracie Law, and Miao Yin, as well as the movie's use of animation and sets. José noted the film's great cinematography and mentioned being tired after landscaping, while both highlighted the movie's engaging elements and memorable scenes.
Movie Analysis and Visual Effects
José and Ryan discussed various aspects of a movie, focusing on its visual effects, plot elements, and comparisons to other John Carpenter films. They analyzed specific scenes, including the use of green fire, supernatural creatures, and the movie's mix of styles. The conversation also touched on the cinematography, the character EggShen, and the movie's tone compared to other films in the series.
Movie Special Effects Discussion
José and Ryan discussed the special effects and makeup in the movie, including the connection between it and Lord of Illusions through Steve Johnson. They compared it to Silver Bullet, concluding that Silver Bullet was better despite Gary Busey's presence in Transmutations. The conversation also covered production details like the sloping corridor set and optical effects used in the movie.
Film Location and Production Planning
José and Ryan discussed filming locations, noting that costs and logistics led to filming at the Fox Backlot in LA instead of San Francisco. They analyzed various movie scenes, including action sequences, character dynamics, and set details, while also discussing the technical aspects of water and bullet effects in filmmaking. The conversation included references to other films and characters, and they explored ideas for creating graphics comparing monsters from different movies.
Big Trouble in Little China Analysis
José and Ryan discussed various aspects of the film "Big Trouble in Little China," including specific scenes, character backgrounds, and production details. They analyzed the film's tropes, such as the door scene, and discussed deleted scenes and the roles of actors like Kim Cattrall and Dennis Dun. The conversation also touched on the film's set design, miniatures, and monsters, as well as the background of the music video for "Dolly Dagger" featuring James Hong.
Movie Production Discussion Meeting
José and Ryan discussed various aspects of a movie, including character backgrounds, plot details, and special effects. They talked about actors' roles, such as Susie Pai's transition from cheerleading to modeling and acting, and Carter Wong's casting due to his Thai boxing skills. They also analyzed specific scenes, props, and effects, including the Bog of Eternal Stench and the Guardian puppet, noting the significant effort and cost involved in creating certain elements.
Movie Effects and Production Analysis
José and Ryan discussed various aspects of a movie, focusing on specific scenes, special effects, and the making of certain elements. They analyzed the fight sequences, visual effects like the Guardian monster, and noted the use of animatronics and remote-controlled elements. They also commented on the cartoony nature of some scenes and the challenges of creating certain effects within budget constraints.
Big Trouble in Little China Discussion
José and Ryan discussed the movie Big Trouble in Little China, analyzing its special effects, characters, and story elements. They compared it to other horror films like Rawhead Rex and Hellraiser, expressing a preference for Big Trouble in Little China. The conversation then shifted to planning future content, including a Book Club of Blood discussion on The Body Politic and potential 1987 horror movie selections for voting. They also briefly discussed the use of AI in content creation and its impact on documentary-style videos.

In Episode 529, Ryan and Jose are joined by David Blair for another Book Club of Blood episode. This time, we cover "Human Remains". 
This is the Clive Barker Podcast, where long-time fans Ryan and Jose interview guests, bring you the news, and take deep dives into Barker-related stuff.  This episode will be available in Podcast Audio and Youtube Video. 
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Book Club of Blood Discussion: 
Books. Of Blood Vol. 3 | Human Remains
Revisiting News from the Reef
Bryan Fuller of Hannibal TV series says he is working on a TV Series with Clive Barker
Discussing Hellraiser Revival Game
Boom Studios Collected Hellraiser Comics
Show Notes
Adapted in Tapping the Vein Book 1
Feedback / Questions
Reddit
Coming Next 
Clive's Contemporary Commentaries : 1986 (Big Trouble in Little China)
Portrait Study Pinhead? 
News and Interviews
BCOB – The Body Politic
Patreon Members Shout-Out (Become a Patron)
David Anderson
Erik Van T' Holt
Daniel Elven
Amanda Stewart
Bradley Gartz
Matthew Batten
Bennett
Jesse
Clara Leslie
Timothy Ramakers
Terry Murdock
John-John
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Chat about Childhood Toys
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AI Summary
Clive Barker's "Human Remains" Analysis
The group discussed Clive Barker's story "Human Remains" from Books of Blood Volume 3. José provided a detailed summary of the plot, describing the main character Gavin as an amoral hustler who discovers a golem-like creature in Reynolds' apartment. The discussion explored themes of aging, retirement, and superficiality, with Ryan suggesting the story represents how younger people replace older professionals in various fields. The group analyzed key moments in the story, including Gavin's discovery of the statue in Reynolds' bathtub and the creature's apparent attraction to Gavin's appearance. The conversation concluded with reflections on Gavin's character as a young, attractive but lost soul.
Gavin's Shadow Statue Confrontation
The group discussed a story involving Gavin, who becomes entangled with a pimp named Pretorius after a misunderstanding about a crime committed against one of Pretorius's sex workers. Gavin tries to escape but is caught and attacked with a knife, leading to a confrontation with a shadowy statue that appears to be coming to his aid. The statue, which seems connected to Gavin on a psychic level, transforms from a wooden statue to a more human form and helps defend him, eventually revealing a connection to Gavin's own shadow self. The discussion touched on various themes including doppelgängers, golems, and depression, with the statue potentially representing Gavin's inner demons or depression manifesting physically.
Doppelganger Story Plot Discussion
The group discussed a story involving a doppelganger that takes over a person's life, with José explaining key plot points about how the doppelganger physically mirrors the original person's injuries and experiences. They explored the character's situation after murdering Pretorius and the gang, including his decision not to return home due to police involvement and his limited resources. The discussion also covered the character's visit to Reynolds, who provided limited explanations about the creature's origins and requirements for activation, though Reynolds himself had become isolated and deteriorated since encountering the entity.
Gavin's Doppelganger Character Analysis
The group discussed a character named Gavin who creates a doppelganger that leads an independent life after copying him. They analyzed how Gavin loses his will to live as his clone becomes more human and powerful, with José comparing this to depression and Ryan drawing parallels to retirement. The discussion concluded with details about Gavin waking up to find his clone had been shot, highlighting the tragic consequences of losing one's purpose and identity.
Graphic Novel Character Analysis
The group discussed a graphic novel, focusing on a character who takes on others' lives and experiences. They explored themes of identity, grief, and the burden of life, particularly through the story of Gavin and his doppelganger. José highlighted the significance of the doppelganger's wound and its healing process, while the group discussed the character's potential curse and origins. They also noted the contrast between Gavin's emotional state and the doppelganger's ability to emote and connect with life.
Clive Barker's Doppelganger Story Discussion
The group discussed Clive Barker's story about a doppelganger, exploring its themes of grief, identity, and what makes someone human. They considered the story's potential as an arthouse film, noting its low-budget production possibilities and discussing how to adapt the interior monologue elements for the screen. The conversation included insights about Barker's own experiences that may have influenced the story, and they examined the connection between the doppelganger and Gavin's character, speculating about how the story might end.
Clive Barker Rights Discussion
The group discussed Clive Barker's rights to his works, particularly regarding the Books of Blood series and Hellraiser. They noted that rights typically revert to authors unless new adaptations are created, and discussed how rights complications can arise when multiple adaptations attempt to use the same material. The conversation concluded with plans to move on to Volume 4 of the Books of Blood, specifically discussing the story "The Body Politic" and mentioning a Christopher Lloyd adaptation titled "The Inhuman Condition."
Hellraiser Adaptations and Projects
The group discussed various Hellraiser adaptations and related projects. They talked about a 2016 screenplay for "In the Flesh" by Mick Garris and Clive Barker, and expressed hope for an upcoming TV show by Brad Fuller. The conversation also covered a Hellraiser comic book collection by Boom Studios, which includes three volumes with a total of over 1,500 pages, though one participant had to cancel their pre-order due to the high cost of $200. The discussion concluded with a brief mention of Monstrous Press's "Kolchak Meets the Monsters" crossover collection and a potential deal for 90s Hellraiser Epic comics.
Marvel Hellraiser Comics Discussion
The group discussed Marvel Hellraiser comics, including their completeness and value, with José noting that buyers should be aware of what they're purchasing. They planned their next content, deciding to focus on Pinhead sketches and paintings rather than voting on a new movie, with José suggesting they could return to voting after this topic. The discussion concluded with gratitude to Patreon donors and a nostalgic conversation about vintage toys from the 1980s and 1990s, including Ewok movies, Universal Monsters playsets, and various action figures.
Toys Discussion
The group discussed childhood toys, including She-Ra dolls, Transformers, and Battlestar Galactica figures. José shared details about a new Masters of the Universe movie trailer featuring Jared Leto as Skeletor.