The Leading, Language and Literature Podcast

In this episode I am speaking with Shyam Barr. Shyam is is an Australian educator, author, keynote speaker, and researcher who specialises in self-regulated learning (SRL). He is an Adjunct Associate Professor of Learning Sciences at the University of Canberra, where he conducts research on teaching practices that help students learn how to learn.
It was his book Educate to Self-Regulate: Empowering Learners for Lifelong Success and latterly his podcast by the same name that brought his work to my attention. His writing and conversations are of enormous help to anyone working within the IB curricula or those interested in how metacognition and self-regulated learning can be used to impact students’ outcomes.
We discuss:
His Living Room analogy for SRL
The relationship between ‘Metacognition’, 'Motivation', 'Cognition', 'Resource Management' and 'Emotion' in an SRL framework
Where a school starts once they've identified SRL as an aim for the year or next few years
Specific examples of how a department or school has implemented an SRL curriculum and what it looks like at the lesson, unit and year level
How Shyam gets around curriculum coverage concerns so that SRL is not seen as another policy item to be included
And finally, whether SRL complements all types of teaching and learning or is better suited to student-centred learning.

Thanks again to Shyam for chatting with me today and his ongoing work into what can be a very powerful lever both inside and outside the classroom.
If you’d like to be kept up to date on when chat like this happens, feel free to subscribe to the podcast and follow me on LinkedIn @chrisjordanhk or X @chrisjordanhk
Additionally, if you would like a head start on learning how to prioritise your middle years English curriculum, head to the bottom of this podcast’s show notes or top of my stream on X to find a beta copy of my forthcoming book: Reinforcing Middle School English Thank you so much to those who have highlighted elements that they like, dislike or found confusing to help make it better.
Links:
Shyam’s TedxTalk
Shyam’s podcast
Shyam’s book

In this episode, I am talking with Jaimie Cloud. Jaimie is one of the world’s best known sustainability educators and pioneer of Education for Sustainability (EfS) inclusion at schools around the world. She is founder of The Cloud Institute and has helped guide school curricula toward sustainable futures for over 30 years.
We discuss:
What exactly the word ‘sustainability’ covers within the Cloud Institute's work
How its framework fundamentally aims to change what happens in a high school classroom
How a teacher or team of teachers would start developing a unit to explore one of the ‘Enduring Understandings’ or performance indicators
How schools can cultivate hope and problem-solving capacity as opposed to downplaying existential threats or creating excessive cynicism
And finally, where EfS draws the line between civic responsibility and political ideology.

Thank you so much again to Jaimie for giving up her time and talking with her customary passion and deep knowledge on the topic of sustainability in schools.
If you’d like to be kept up to date on when chat like this happens, feel free to subscribe to the podcast and follow me on LinkedIn @chrisjordanhk or X @chrisjordanhk
Additionally, if you would like a head start on learning how to prioritise your middle years English curriculum, head to the bottom of this podcast’s show notes or top of my stream on X to find a beta copy of my forthcoming book: Reinforcing Middle School English You can read as much as you want and even highlight elements that you like, dislike or find confusing to help make it better.
Links:
The Cloud Institute’s website
Jaimie’s new book Response-Able

In this episode, I am speaking with Dylan Wiliam. Dylan is many things in the world of education. He is Emeritus Professor of Educational Assessment at the UCL Institute of Education, author and co-author of many seminal books from the past 30 years, and along with Paul Black, one of the foremost authorities on educational assessment. Within education research and teacher professional development, he is widely regarded as a huge figure who has fundamentally reshaped much of modern classroom practice.
I have been a massive fan of Dylan’s work ever since I read Carl Hendrick and Robin McPherson’s What Does This Look Like in the Classroom?, where I was first introduced to some of his research and ideas. From which, I explored his other writing and like many others came to develop my understanding of formative and summative assessment accordingly.
We discuss:
The difference between formative and summative assessment and why is it difficult to design a task that fulfils both functions at once.
Whether end of unit or end of term assessments can be expected to fulfil a formative and summative role simultaneously.
What performance assessments and authentic assessments are and why they are important.
And finally, what the delicate balance authentic assessments rely upon means for the frequency or sequence with which we use them.

Thanks again to Dylan for spending time looking at assessment through the lens of English with me as well as his substantial influence and input on educational research over the past three decades.
If you’d like to be kept up to date on when chat like this happens, feel free to subscribe to the podcast and follow me on LinkedIn @chrisjordanhk or X @chrisjordanhk
Additionally, if you would like a head start on learning how to prioritise your middle years English curriculum, head to the bottom of this podcast’s show notes or top of my stream on X to find a beta copy of my forthcoming book: Reinforcing Middle School English You can read as much as you want and even highlight elements that you like, dislike or find confusing to help make it better.

In this episode, I’m talking to Eoin MacCarthaigh. This is the latest in a running series of conversations between Eoin and I, where we share 3 things each from the world of education that have been causing us some consideration.
We discuss:
Attainment grouping in English
The openness of teachers to professional feedback
The big problems with assessment at Key Stage 3 or middle school
The increasing pushback on teaching playbooks
The relative importance of characterisation in fiction

If you want to be kept up to date on when educational chat like this happens, then be sure to subscribe to the podcast and/or follow me on X @chrisjordanhk and Eoin @EMCTeach
Additionally, if you would like a head start on learning how to prioritise your middle years English curriculum, head to the bottom of this podcast’s show notes or top of my stream on X to find a beta copy of my forthcoming book: Reinforcing Middle School English You can read as much as you want and even highlight elements that you like, dislike or find confusing to help make it better.
Links:
Beta version of Reinforcing Middle School English
The EEF report on ability grouping

In this episode I am talking to Tom Needham. Tom is an assistant headteacher in London, former Head of English and author of two fantastic books. His first, Explicit English Teaching, looks at how to take the findings of cognitive science and apply it to the secondary English classroom. And his second, Direct Instruction in Action, was my major motivation for getting in touch with him, as it breaks down the legendary work of Siegfried Engelmann and how highly technical curriculum frameworks can create foolproof learning for all students.
We discuss
The distinctions between explicit instruction, direct instruction and Direct Instruction
Tom’s experience working with off-the-shelf DI curricula
The possibilities for Direct Instruction in secondary English
And finally, what all this means for holistic curriculum design

Thanks again to Tom for speaking with me for the podcast but also writing two incredible books in the context of English teaching. These will no doubt garner more and more deserved attention in the coming years as the theory of Direct instruction gains greater attention in wider education circles.
If you’d like to be kept up to date on when chat like this happens, feel free to subscribe to the podcast and follow me on LinkedIn @chrisjordanhk or X @chrisjordanhk
Additionally, if you would like a head start on learning how to prioritise your middle years English curriculum, head to the bottom of this podcast’s show notes or top of my stream on X to find a beta copy of my forthcoming book: Reinforcing Middle School English You can read as much as you want and even highlight elements that you like, dislike or find confusing to help make it better.
Links:
Beta version of Reinforcing Middle School English
Tom’s book on Explicit English Teaching and Direct Instruction in Action