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The Long and The Short Of It

Peter Shepherd & Jen Waldman
The Long and The Short Of It
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  • The Long and The Short Of It

    400. Episode 400

    26/05/2026 | 20 mins.
    This week, Pete and Jen are celebrating four hundred weeks of podcasting (with no breaks!). To honor the occasion, they answer questions that were sent in by you, the listeners.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    How have Pete and Jen sustained their momentum of recording, over four hundred episodes?

    What episodes are in The Long and The Short Of It's cutting room floor?

    What episode might Pete and Jen want to revisit, with new information or context?

    What three leaders from their industry might Pete and Jen want to invite for dinner?

    Should we spend less time training leaders, so there is more time to train followers?

    What is a favorite lesson or transformation that Pete and Jen have had, over these years of podcasting?

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.
    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.
    Reach us: [email protected]
    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
  • The Long and The Short Of It

    399. How Do I Start?

    19/05/2026 | 19 mins.
    Almost four hundred episodes later, Jen and Pete throw it back, in a way, to Episode 1, asking: How do I start?

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    Why can starting something become scary or overwhelming?

    What are many different tools and frameworks through which to experiment with starting?

    How are endings and beginnings related?

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.
    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.
    Reach us: [email protected]
    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
  • The Long and The Short Of It

    Bonus Episode: We Need Your Questions

    14/05/2026 | 0 mins.
    In anticipation of Episode 400 of The Long and The Short Of It, Jen and Pete are asking for questions from you, our listeners, to answer in an Ask Us Anything episode.

    Do you have a question that you'd like Jen and Pete to ponder, to noodle on, to think out loud about on Episode 400? Head on over to thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/400, and submit your question.

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. 

    To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected].

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.
    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.
    Reach us: [email protected]
    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
  • The Long and The Short Of It

    398. The Eisenhower Conundrum

    12/05/2026 | 16 mins.
    This week, Pete coaches Jen as she navigates the urgent and important curveballs and projects that have been thrown into her life recently.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    What is The Eisenhower Matrix?

    How might we prioritize the urgent and important?

    How might we move between periods of sprinting and periods of recovery?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. 

    To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected].

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.
    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.
    Reach us: [email protected]
    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
  • The Long and The Short Of It

    397. Thought Leadership

    05/05/2026 | 16 mins.
    This week, Jen and Pete noodle on the questions: Is thought leadership a teachable skill? And if so, how might we teach it?

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    What is thought leadership?

    What attributes does a thought leader possess?

    How might we turn our thoughts and ideas into implementable and practical actions?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on. 

    To get in touch, send an email to: [email protected]. Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.
    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.
    Reach us: [email protected]
    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
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About The Long and The Short Of It
What do leaders, coaches, and creatives actually talk about when they think out loud together? Every Tuesday for eight years, that's been the question driving The Long and The Short Of It. Pete Shepherd (Australian leadership coach, former Head Coach of Seth Godin's altMBA, has worked with leaders at Google, Toyota, Woolworths, and the Australian Navy) and Jen Waldman (founder of NYC's Jen Waldman Studio, with clients in nearly every Broadway musical of the last two decades) take a small specific story from the week and turn it into a question or framework you can use today. Under 20 minutes. No guests, no scripts, no ads. Just two friends on opposite sides of the world thinking out loud about leadership, coaching, fear, feedback, imposter syndrome, creativity, and what it actually means to be human at work. 400 episodes. Subscribe to the Box O' Goodies weekly email at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.
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