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The Mind-Body Couple

Tanner Murtagh and Anne Hampson
The Mind-Body Couple
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    Dr. Howard Schubiner Explains: How to Unlearn Your Pain

    21/05/2026 | 38 mins.
    Dr. Howard Schubiner just might be the most experienced and knowledgable physician on the planet, when it comes to the research and treatment of neuroplastic pain and symptoms. We're honoured to have him join us! 
    Howard sits down with Tanner to teach and share about his new book, Unlearn Your Pain.
    You'll hear about:
    • Howard's path into mind-body medicine and why this work challenges the status quo 
    • What his new, comprehensive Unlearn Your Pain book provides readers, including neuroscience, an exploration of specific conditions (not just pain!), plus evidence-based treatment 
    • Predictive processing - how the brain creates our experiences (sometimes incorrectly) in an effort to help us
    • The role of belief and confidence in healing, and how that "click" can happen
    • Key signs that suggest neuroplastic symptoms, after medical causes are ruled out 
    • Anxiety, OCD, PTSD, and depression as neuroplastic conditions - and why treatment principles overlap 

    Preorder Dr. Schubiner's latest book here:
    https://www.amazon.ca/Unlearn-Your-Pain-Recovering-Depression/dp/0593994361/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.cvbjtQFOl7jwFIyUyF8ou3RirwMcT96jsAsw_R5VaLiXB3kBjxW-9mQrP-S8MJ_TKT-rOizNpTTz5VKiugKM0V-f51H5Wma4ErRK8-ZG5Tzsuhm0FxOHzICS2MjqS0nOjVMVKo7qqI4nHD2G3SZSJJYgQ_qQLOWAmVA09avMK5uYWOHjTqEu6oRqBg8FQrw0ebSNUqK2n1va56oKORtEF-ipNOMEXWHbRqvpDs2eYQkCwau7_M1JV9ilh_UrMmin_2uNd-Ch1sjmJKTaYrfn-DM1q-77ct4f-yz8nSdX6nQ.2FPlIMtVoNa9e3l1ZkGRPHbpbCWn3nqu9_9213ryK20&dib_tag=se&keywords=unlearn+your+pain+by+howard+schubiner&qid=1777923581&sr=8-1

    Tanner Murtagh and Anne Hampson are therapists who treat neuroplastic pain and mind-body symptoms. They are also married!
    In his 20s, Tanner overcame chronic pain and a fibromyalgia diagnosis by learning his symptoms were neuroplastic, not structural. Post-healing, Tanner and Anne have dedicated their lives to developing effective treatment and education for neuroplastic pain and symptoms.
    Listen and learn how to assess your own chronic pain and symptoms, gain tools to retrain the brain and nervous system, and make changes in your life and health!

    The Mind-Body Couple podcast is owned by Pain Psychotherapy Canada Inc. This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen, one of the wonderful therapists at our agency in Calgary, Alberta. https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

    Tanner, Anne, and Alex also run the MBody Community, an in-depth online course that provides a step-by-step process for assessing, treating, and resolving mind-body pain and symptoms. https://www.mbodycommunity.com

    Check out Tanner's YouTube channel for more free education and practices: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Fl6WaFHnh4ponuexaMbFQ

    And follow us for daily education posts on Instagram: @painpsychotherapy

    Disclaimer: The information provided on this podcast is for general in...
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    Healing Your Anxiety AND Chronic Pain/Symptoms (With Free Practice)

    07/05/2026 | 37 mins.
    Anxiety feels chronic for many of us, and it gets even harder when it increases due to chronic pain and symptoms.
    Tanner sits down with our producer and fellow therapist, Alex Klassen, to zoom in on neuroception: your body’s antenna that scans for danger before your thinking mind even has a chance to weigh in.
    When your neuroception is sensitized, it starts overreading threat in everyday moments. That doesn’t mean you’re broken. It means your alarm system is doing its job a little too aggressively.

    From there, we share the simple but powerful idea from Pain Reprocessing Therapy :
    Somatic tracking - using repeated calm, curious attention to sensations - helps the brain reappraise input from your body and environment as safe.
    We guide a free anxiety meditation you can replay anytime to practice moving toward anxious sensations without spiraling, desensitizing your overprotective alarm system.
    Tanner Murtagh and Anne Hampson are therapists who treat neuroplastic pain and mind-body symptoms. They are also married!
    In his 20s, Tanner overcame chronic pain and a fibromyalgia diagnosis by learning his symptoms were neuroplastic, not structural. Post-healing, Tanner and Anne have dedicated their lives to developing effective treatment and education for neuroplastic pain and symptoms.
    Listen and learn how to assess your own chronic pain and symptoms, gain tools to retrain the brain and nervous system, and make changes in your life and health!

    The Mind-Body Couple podcast is owned by Pain Psychotherapy Canada Inc. This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen, one of the wonderful therapists at our agency in Calgary, Alberta. https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

    Tanner, Anne, and Alex also run the MBody Community, an in-depth online course that provides a step-by-step process for assessing, treating, and resolving mind-body pain and symptoms. https://www.mbodycommunity.com

    Check out Tanner's YouTube channel for more free education and practices: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Fl6WaFHnh4ponuexaMbFQ

    And follow us for daily education posts on Instagram: @painpsychotherapy

    Disclaimer: The information provided on this podcast is for general in...
  • The Mind-Body Couple

    Why Do Women Experience More Chronic Pain & Symptoms?

    23/04/2026 | 25 mins.
    The rules many women are handed... be agreeable, don’t be too much, handle everything... aren’t just exhausting. They reshape the nervous system’s sense of safety and can wire the body for neuroplastic pain and symptoms.
    We connect the dots between culture, trauma, medical minimization, and neuroplastic pain/symptoms, and consider how small steps can lead women to recover voice and rebuild fair systems at home and work.

    Neuroplastic pain and symptoms are 100% real, but rather than being a result of physical pathology, they are generated by a sensitized brain and nervous system. We explore how social expectations can silence anger and need, driving the system into chronic fight, flight, fawn or freeze/shutdown. You’ll hear why feeling more deeply and speaking more clearly can actually reduce pain sensitivity, and how small exposures (like one direct request, one honest journal entry, or one boundary) can restore a sense of safety.

    If you’ve ever felt “too much,” carried guilt for feeling like you can't handle it all, or wondered why your symptoms spike when you swallow your truth, this conversation offers answers.
    Tanner Murtagh and Anne Hampson are therapists who treat neuroplastic pain and mind-body symptoms. They are also married!
    In his 20s, Tanner overcame chronic pain and a fibromyalgia diagnosis by learning his symptoms were neuroplastic, not structural. Post-healing, Tanner and Anne have dedicated their lives to developing effective treatment and education for neuroplastic pain and symptoms.
    Listen and learn how to assess your own chronic pain and symptoms, gain tools to retrain the brain and nervous system, and make changes in your life and health!

    The Mind-Body Couple podcast is owned by Pain Psychotherapy Canada Inc. This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen, one of the wonderful therapists at our agency in Calgary, Alberta. https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

    Tanner, Anne, and Alex also run the MBody Community, an in-depth online course that provides a step-by-step process for assessing, treating, and resolving mind-body pain and symptoms. https://www.mbodycommunity.com

    Check out Tanner's YouTube channel for more free education and practices: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Fl6WaFHnh4ponuexaMbFQ

    And follow us for daily education posts on Instagram: @painpsychotherapy

    Disclaimer: The information provided on this podcast is for general in...
  • The Mind-Body Couple

    How to Find The Right Therapist for Chronic Pain & Symptom Recovery

    09/04/2026 | 39 mins.
    If you're using a mind-body approach to heal your chronic pain/symptoms, the right therapist is a game-changer.
    Tanner sits down with fellow chronic pain psychotherapist, Paul LePointe, to discuss different therapy approaches and styles. Tanner and Paul discuss their practice, help you understand your options, and provide practical ideas on how to find the right therapist for you.
    Tanner and Paul both experienced chronic, debilitating neuroplastic pain - and recovered! They now provide 1-on-1 therapy at Pain Psychotherapy Canada.
    Tanner and Paul explore:
    Key questions to ask when you're consulting with a potential new therapist
    How therapist style and approach differences can shape outcomes
    Why people can still feel stuck, even with a skilled therapist
    Tanner Murtagh and Anne Hampson are therapists who treat neuroplastic pain and mind-body symptoms. They are also married!
    In his 20s, Tanner overcame chronic pain and a fibromyalgia diagnosis by learning his symptoms were neuroplastic, not structural. Post-healing, Tanner and Anne have dedicated their lives to developing effective treatment and education for neuroplastic pain and symptoms.
    Listen and learn how to assess your own chronic pain and symptoms, gain tools to retrain the brain and nervous system, and make changes in your life and health!

    The Mind-Body Couple podcast is owned by Pain Psychotherapy Canada Inc. This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen, one of the wonderful therapists at our agency in Calgary, Alberta. https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

    Tanner, Anne, and Alex also run the MBody Community, an in-depth online course that provides a step-by-step process for assessing, treating, and resolving mind-body pain and symptoms. https://www.mbodycommunity.com

    Check out Tanner's YouTube channel for more free education and practices: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Fl6WaFHnh4ponuexaMbFQ

    And follow us for daily education posts on Instagram: @painpsychotherapy

    Disclaimer: The information provided on this podcast is for general in...
  • The Mind-Body Couple

    Somatic Tracking for Chronic Pain & Symptoms: Free Guide

    26/03/2026 | 25 mins.
    Tanner hosts a solo episode, sharing a free somatic tracking practice from the MBody Community digital course.
    Tanner first explains how chronic pain and symptoms can be neuroplastic (caused by the brain, not the body). He then breaks down the sensitization cycle - the feedback loop that makes symptoms sustain and worsen. Tanner provides practical instructions on the how to use somatic tracking to retrain your brain and desensitize pain/symptoms.
    The episode includes a free somatic tracking guide you can make part of your daily practice. It's one of 60+ practices from our course - The Somatic Safety Method, published by MBody Community.
    Tanner Murtagh and Anne Hampson are therapists who treat neuroplastic pain and mind-body symptoms. They are also married!
    In his 20s, Tanner overcame chronic pain and a fibromyalgia diagnosis by learning his symptoms were neuroplastic, not structural. Post-healing, Tanner and Anne have dedicated their lives to developing effective treatment and education for neuroplastic pain and symptoms.
    Listen and learn how to assess your own chronic pain and symptoms, gain tools to retrain the brain and nervous system, and make changes in your life and health!

    The Mind-Body Couple podcast is owned by Pain Psychotherapy Canada Inc. This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen, one of the wonderful therapists at our agency in Calgary, Alberta. https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

    Tanner, Anne, and Alex also run the MBody Community, an in-depth online course that provides a step-by-step process for assessing, treating, and resolving mind-body pain and symptoms. https://www.mbodycommunity.com

    Check out Tanner's YouTube channel for more free education and practices: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Fl6WaFHnh4ponuexaMbFQ

    And follow us for daily education posts on Instagram: @painpsychotherapy

    Disclaimer: The information provided on this podcast is for general in...
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About The Mind-Body Couple
Tanner Murtagh and Anne Hampson are therapists who treat neuroplastic pain and mind-body symptoms. They are also married! In his 20s, Tanner overcame chronic pain and a fibromyalgia diagnosis by learning his symptoms were occurring due to learned brain pathways and nervous system dysregulation. Post-healing, Tanner and Anne have dedicated their lives to developing effective treatment and education for neuroplastic pain and symptoms. Listen and learn how to assess your own chronic pain and symptoms, gain tools to retrain the brain and nervous system, and make gradual changes in your life and health!The Mind-Body Couple podcast is owned by Pain Psychotherapy Canada Inc. This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen, who is one of the wonderful therapists at our agency in Calgary, Alberta. https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/Tanner, Anne, and Alex also run the MBody Community, which is an in-depth online course that provides step-by-step guidance for assessing, treating, and resolving mind-body pain and symptoms. https://www.mbodycommunity.comAlso check out Tanner's YouTube channel for more free education and practices: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Fl6WaFHnh4ponuexaMbFQAnd follow us for daily education posts on Instagram: @painpsychotherapyDisclaimer: The information provided on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. If you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.
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