Desert Island Dress

Welcome back to our post-analysis episode of Desert Island Dress. 
Every other week, we take a moment to reflect on the stories and choices shared in the main conversation and pull on one of the threads that caught our attention.   
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This week’s guest is painter Carl Hickey. If you are not familiar, Carl’s work is celebrated for capturing those everyday, instantly recognisable moments in life. Recent paintings have depicted two guys sporting their much-coveted 3D glasses, waiting for the solar eclipse back in August; or two lads e-scooting through Dublin city; or his mam getting her nails painted by her next-door neighbour outside her home in Clondalkin during the summer heatwave. 
Speaking of heat, we recorded this chat back in the summer. The studio was sweltering, so fair play to Carl for getting through the full hour in the extra-hot seat, with not a window to open! 
Through his four items - which he had understood needed to be something old, something new and something borrowed, but the choices worked anyway - we get a great sense of Carl and his easy-going nature. We hear how he almost didn’t bother applying for college, before going on to apply himself to such an extent that he graduated with a first-class honours degree from the National College of Art and Design (NCAD) here in Dublin. 
There’s a lovely theme running through the conversation about the significance of ‘the suit’ in a young man’s life, and, in a way, how men gradually grow into it. At first, it’s something to almost play around with, dressing up, experimenting with the clothes, until one day he will find himself wearing a full suit, and it will be of no particular significance at all. He will have simply grown into it.  
Elsewhere, our conversation takes us from Guineys, a longstanding Dublin retail institution on Talbot Street, to gangster grandads in trench coats, to the remoteness of Ballinskelligs, where Carl seems more fazed by the challenge of keeping a fire lit in his country lodgings than by anything Dublin's busy streets can throw at him. 
Carl was heading out to meet friends straight after chatting with us, and he strikes us as exactly the kind of person you’d love to have at your table on a night out. 
Our thanks to Carl for keeping Desert Island Dress on his podcast list for 2026! 
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Welcome back to our post-analysis episode of Desert Island Dress. 
Every other week, we take a moment to reflect on the stories and choices shared in the main conversation and pull on one of the threads that caught our attention.   
✨ Stay connected with Desert Island Dress:  
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For more stories, news and updates — including our first live show in Copenhagen with the Embassy of Ireland and recently published articles in RTÉ Brainstorm, visit: www.desert-island-dress.com

Today, we are honoured to welcome Caoilfhionn Gallagher to Desert Island Dress. 
Caoilfhionn is a barrister and has worked in London at the renowned Doughty Street Chambers for over 20 years, alongside similarly excellent human rights barristers such as Amal Clooney, fighting for justice — particularly for those who do not have the voice or reach to advocate for themselves. Her next steps include founding an independent organisation to continue this important work.
Even after talking with Caoilfhionn for just an hour, we came away humbled by what was on our own plates, as she casually shared just some of the items on her calendar for that week alone! She is a force of nature: so articulate, insightful and hugely knowledgeable, while also being incredibly self-aware and introspective. 
As Katriona rightly points out, to hear ‘Imposter Syndrome’ come up is not where you’d expect this conversation to go. Yet Caoilfhionn brilliantly illustrates how legacy systems and organisations can create worlds that signal to you that you do not belong. 
She describes an encounter at a stuffy legal outfitter while hiring the ceremonial attire she needed to become a senior barrister — a highly prestigious appointment. When she asked for the prescribed patent-buckled shoes in her petite shoe size, the outfitter sniffed that they only stocked them from size 6 upwards. I thought this was a simple yet highly illustrative example of the social cues we might interpret as telling us that we don’t belong in certain spaces. We literally don’t fit in their shoes. 
Each of Caoilfhionn’s four items leads to beautiful conversations that stretch from the personal — including teenage memories, family love and loss — through to accents and the Irish and British social class systems, and the power of a T-shirt to advocate for human rights. 
It’s all here, told through the wonderfully worded stories of our second guest of the series, Caoilfhionn Gallagher. 
 
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Welcome back to our post-analysis episode of Desert Island Dress. 
Every other week, we take a moment to reflect on the stories and choices shared in the main conversation and pull on one of the threads that caught our attention.   
✨ Stay connected with Desert Island Dress:  
📸 Instagram: ⁠⁠@desert_island_dress⁠⁠  
 🌐 Website: www.desert-island-dress.com  
💌 Share your favourite episode of Desert Island Dress with a friend 
For more stories, news and updates — including our first live show in Copenhagen with the Embassy of Ireland and recently published articles in RTÉ Brainstorm, visit: www.desert-island-dress.com