the gestalt get-together

Bridging OT and SLP for stronger, more meaningful outcomes.
Guest: Erin Heyn, OTD, OTR/L, CLC
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The OT–SLP relationship can be a powerful alliance. For neurodivergent children and their families, collaboration across disciplines can make a meaningful difference in relationships, regulation, access to learning, and the ability to build new skills. In this episode of The Gestalt Get-Together, Corinne Zmoos, MS, CCC-SLP, sits down with pediatric occupational therapist Erin Heyn to discuss centering caregiver regulation and cue-reading to create a strong foundation for skill acquisition. Erin shares how sensory processing and nervous system regulation shape everything - from attention and movement to feeding and connection - and why caregiver education and training are essential in early development. Together, they highlight simple ways to build stronger OT-SLP relationships that honor each child’s communication style and help them access their environment with confidence. You will come away with ideas for connecting with the OTs on your clients’ teams on this topic to enhance language acquisition.
About the Guest: Erin Heyn, OTD, OTR/L, CLC, is a pediatric occupational therapist and lactation counselor who specializes in infant and toddler feeding and development. She started Tiny Tides Therapy, a mobile therapy practice, in January of 2025. Erin is passionate about supporting little ones and their families by meeting them where they are (literally) and finding ways to help them achieve their unique goals.
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The Pyramid of Learning

Rethinking language development through rhythm, improvisation, and real connection.
Guest: Garrett Oyama, MS, CCC-SLP
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In this episode of The Gestalt Get-Together, Corinne Zmoos, MS, CCC-SLP, sits down with speech-language pathologist, researcher, musician, and Beyond Words podcast host Garrett Oyama, MS, CCC-SLP, to explore jazz as a framework for thinking about speech and language development. Garrett shares how his background in jazz performance shaped his understanding of communication as a dynamic, improvised skill built through timing, interaction, listening, and real-world use rather than drills or isolated practice. Together, Corinne and Garrett discuss why fluency emerges through meaningful participation, how rhythm and motor learning support language development, and the shifts that occur when therapy moves from correcting errors to supporting connection, flexibility, and authentic communication.
About the Guest: Garrett Oyama, MS, CCC-SLP, is a speech-language pathologist, musician, and research coordinator with over eight years of experience working in clinics and schools throughout California. A graduate of Emerson College (2014), he integrates his background in communication sciences with creative approaches to therapy, technology, and education. His interdisciplinary work bridges clinical practice, research, and the arts to support innovative, evidence-based care.
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Guest: Courtney Katzenberg, LGPC, M.Ed
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In this episode of The Gestalt Get-Together, Corinne Zmoos, MS, CCC-SLP, welcomes Courtney Katzenberg, LGPC, M.Ed., for a thoughtful conversation about Compassion-Focused Therapy (CFT), the Three Systems of Regulation, and how these frameworks can meaningfully support parents of neurodivergent children.
Together, Courtney and Corinne explore the shared foundation of regulation that connects CFT for caregivers and Gestalt Language Processing (GLP)-informed approaches for children. You will gain a clear understanding of how CFT can serve as a supportive resource for parents experiencing grief, chronic stress, burnout, confusion, dysregulation, or feelings of defeat, while also strengthening the co-regulation systems that benefit the entire family.
This episode offers practical insight into how SLPs can better understand caregiver experiences, collaborate with mental health professionals, and thoughtfully integrate regulation-centered perspectives into family-centered care.
About the Guest: Courtney Katzenberg, LGPC, M.Ed, is a psychotherapist at Be. Psychotherapy in Baltimore, Maryland. She joined the practice in 2021 after a career transition from education, seeking a clinical internship that would allow her to use evidence-based, compassionate, and mindfulness-focused modalities with the perinatal population. In 2024, she pursued training with the Compassionate Mind Foundation to build her knowledge and skills employing Compassion Focused Therapy, which she uses with individuals and couples.
Show Notes:
Compassionate Mind Foundation
Short CFT video on the Three System Model
The Compassionate Mind Book by Paul Gilbert
The Compassionate Mind Workbook by Chris Irons and Elaine Beaumont
Mindful Compassion by Paul Gilbert and Choden
Podcast: Compassion in a T-Shirt by Stan Steindl
An Exploration of Compassion Focused Therapy for Grieving Individuals by Darcy L. Harris
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Guest: Salena Jacob, DPT
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In this episode of The Gestalt Get-Together, Corinne Zmoos, MS, CCC-SLP, sits down with Salena Jacob, DPT, to talk about her experience supporting gestalt language processors (GLPs) in physical therapy settings.
Salena shares how she brings the GLP profile into real PT sessions, from following children’s special interests to using musical language, rhythm, and familiar phrases to build connection and support regulation. Through concrete examples, she explains how these approaches support engagement as children develop motor skills, highlighting the value of interdisciplinary collaboration across therapy environments.
About the Guest: Salena Jacob, DPT, is a doctor of physical therapy, a 200-hour certified yoga instructor, and a musician who uses her experience to provide an individualized therapeutic plan for pediatric clients. She incorporates learning preferences of Gestalt Language Processors with cutting-edge PT research findings in her sessions.
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Guest: Elizabeth (Biz) Freund, CCC-SLP
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In this episode of The Gestalt Get-Together, we explore how exploratory process art can support meaningful communication and flexible play for Gestalt language processors (GLPs).
Host Corinne Zmoos, MS, CCC-SLP, interviews Elizabeth Freund, CCC-SLP, about how she uses process art in therapy to create child-directed, choice-driven experiences that prioritize expression over outcomes. Unlike traditional crafts, process art is not about a finished product. Instead, it invites exploration, autonomy, and creativity, even when the process feels messy or nonlinear.
Elizabeth shares how clinicians can shift their mindset, learn to observe patterns and symbolism in a child’s creations, and use these moments to support expressive communication and deeper engagement. This conversation offers a refreshing perspective for SLPs looking to embrace flexibility, follow the child’s lead, and recognize communication opportunities in unexpected places.
About the Guest: Biz Freund, CCC-SLP, is a late-identified AuDhd speech pathologist working in home health in the Phoenix area. She has been working with GLPs and AAC users for the past 10 years in both clinic and home settings. Biz uses exploratory process art with her clients as a modality to facilitate creative, accessible, curiosity-led play and language development.
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