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  • #33: Kira Smiley – Seeing the Unseen: Ocean Tech, AI, and the Data-Driven Future of Aquaculture
    Send us a textKira Smiley is the Global Director of Sales and Marketing at TidalX AI, a startup born from Google[x] (now X, the moonshot factory), focused on developing radical technologies to support the ocean economy while sustainably managing and protecting it. Since joining Tidal in 2020, Kira has worn several hats across business development, product, international customer operations, and program management. She served on the leadership committee for Alphabet’s Women of X organisation for several years and is a member of the Coalition for Sustainable Aquaculture. Kira attended Stanford University and received both a B.S. in Earth Systems and an M.S. focused on sustainable global food security and the environment. She is a 2019 recipient of the DoSER Public Engagement Award from the American Association for the Advancement of Science. Timestamps:00:00:00 - Introduction to Kira Smiley and TidalX Technology00:04:19 - Importance and Environmental Impact of Tidal's Technology00:08:49 - Health Monitoring and Sea Lice Management00:10:23 - Tidal's Mission and Origin at X the Moonshot Factory00:13:29 - The Origin Story of Tidal and its Partner Mowi00:20:03 - Kira Smiley's Background and Interest in Aquaculture00:23:13 - The Sustainability of Fish as a Protein Source00:27:06 - The Culture of Innovation at X00:32:49 - The Principle of "Starting with the Hardest Thing First"00:35:10 - Transition from R&D to a Commercial Product00:40:51 - Early Challenges and Pivots in Development00:43:18 - Factors Leading to the Spin-off from Alphabet X00:48:52 - Tidal's International Expansion and Strategy00:57:10 - The Future of the Blue Economy and Investment01:07:10 - A Call to Action for Innovators and Final RemarksUseful Links & Resources:Kira Smiley: LinkedIn TidalX AIAqua Nor Conference, Trondheim, 18-21 August 2025World Bank Report - Harnessing the Waters: Sustainable AquacultureCoalition for Sustainable AquacultureGlobal Salmon Initiative Google X: Website***Get in touch with The Ocean Age's host Fed DeGobbi on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠, ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ or by emailing directly at [email protected] Ocean Age Podcast is produced by Charlotte Raffo and edited by Nebojsa Lešević. Sarah Carpenter and Giulia Leanza are our research assistants. Eliana Caragia manages Distribution and Engagement. Please send in your feedback: what do you want to hear more or less of? Any suggestions? Would love to hear what you think!
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  • #32: Linzi Hawkin – Impact Strategy Expert On Building Purpose-Driven Ocean Businesses That Make Real Impact And Real Money
    Send us a textLinzi Hawkin is a creative strategist passionate about protecting the ocean through the power of strategy, storytelling, and education. She is the co-founder of Protect Blue - an ocean-focused organisation built around two core pathways: a creative agency that partners with NGOs, governments, and brands to drive tangible impact, and a direct support platform for ocean advocates and activists, providing the tools, community, and resilience they need to lead lasting change.Through this dual approach, Linzi strengthens conservation efforts while nurturing a thriving network of grassroots ocean leaders - helping them stay energised, impactful, and deeply connected to nature.Timestamps:00:00:00 - Introduction to The Ocean Age Podcast and Expert Guest00:01:04 - Defining Impact Strategy for Purpose-Driven Businesses00:02:40 - The Importance of Gaining Clarity on a Problem To Solve00:07:44 - Finding Your Niche in the Ocean Space and Experimentation00:11:42 - The Importance of Real-World Feedback and Minimum Viable Product00:16:16 - The Challenge of Saying No to Opportunities to Maintain Focus00:19:48 - Strategy as a Filter for Decision Making in Impact Ventures00:20:52 - Practical Frameworks for Building an Impact Strategy 00:28:50 - How to Identify When Your Strategy is Flawed or "Off"00:30:53 - Measuring Real Impact vs. Misleading "Vanity Metrics"00:35:01 - Understanding and Avoiding Common Vanity Metrics00:42:52 - Course Correction and Strategy Adjustment00:48:50 - "Green Hushing" and Brands' Fear of Greenwashing Accusations00:52:40 - Balancing Profit with Positive Impact for Financial Sustainability00:57:07 - Case Study: The Innovative Seaweed Surfboard Project01:04:17 - Challenges Faced by Ocean Activists and Entrepreneurs01:06:58 - Advice for Young Professionals01:13:11 - Upcoming Projects01:20:00 - The "Stoke" Piece: Importance of Wellness and Fair Pay in Impact Work01:23:44 - Conclusion and Where to Find More Information Useful Links & Resources:Linzi Hawkin: Website and LinkedInProtect.Blue: WebsiteWavemakers UnderCurrentIDEO free coursesAcumen Theory of Change free courseThe Seaweed Surfboard ProjectGet in touch with The Ocean Age's host Fed DeGobbi on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠, ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ or by emailing directly at [email protected] Ocean Age podcast is produced by Charlotte Raffo and edited by Nebojsa Lesha. Sarah Carpenter is our research assistant.Please send in your feedback: what do you want to hear more or less of? Any suggestions? Would love to hear what you think!
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  • #31: Olly Hicks – World Record Ocean Explorer Turned Aquaculture Entrepreneur, the Expedition Mindset Every Ocean Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed, Nutrient Credits and Securing Funding for Ocean Projects.
    Send us a textOlly Hicks is a world record-breaking British ocean explorer, motivational speaker, and ocean entrepreneur. Known for his minimalistic, human-powered expeditions, Hicks is the first and currently only person to have rowed solo from America to England, completing this feat in 2005 at the age of 23, making him the youngest person to row any ocean solo. He has spent over 2.5% of his life alone on the ocean, covering more than 7,000 miles on various expeditions since 2005.Today, Hicks is a co-founder of Algapelago, which operates as the largest UK licensed offshore kelp cultivator. This mariculture business focuses on rewilding oceans and producing sustainable agricultural products through its Blue Forest Programme, aiming to boost marine biodiversity and sequester carbon.Timestamps:00:00:00 – Introduction to Olly: Ocean Explorer & Three-Time World Record Holder.00:16:00 – Childhood Dreams and Early Inspirations for Ocean Rowing.05:57:00 – The Most Significant Expedition: Solo Atlantic Crossing.07:06:00 – Expedition Preparation.08:04:00 – The Mental Game of Expeditions: Solitude and Adaptation.10:26:00 – Securing Sponsorship: A Thousand Letters and Key Partnerships.14:14:00 – Challenges of Sponsorship: Competition and Personal Interest.16:30:00 – Overcoming Self-Doubt and Embracing "Blind Optimism".19:46:00 – Learning from Failures: The Attempt to Row Around the World.20:40:00 – Cultural Outlooks on Failure (UK vs. US) and Startup Mindset.24:05:00 – Toughest Moments: Preparation Stress and the "Jumping Off" Transition.27:05:00 – Expeditions as "99% a Mental Game".28:05:00 – Cherished Moments: Awe in the Wilderness and Gaining Perspective.30:53:00 – Balancing Risk: Evolving Perspectives with Life Stages.33:57:00 – The Innate Human Need for Adventure: Treading New Ground.38:42:00 – Founding Archipelago: Pioneering Offshore Mariculture.40:46:00 – Similarities Between Leading Expeditions and Entrepreneurship.44:42:00 – The Solitary and Uncomfortable Nature of Startup Leadership.46:31:00 – Main Lesson for a Startup Founder: "KBO" (Keep Buggering On).49:30:00 – The Blue Forest Programme52:54:00 – Nutrient and Biodiversity Credits to fund ocean regeneration projects01:05:40 – The "Secret Sauce" of the Seaweed Sector: Diversified Business Models.01:08:56 – Connecting with Olly and ArchipelagoUseful Links:Olly Hicks: Website, LinkedIn, Wikipedia page.Algapelago: WebsiteBlue Forest Programme: Website Olly’s TEDx Talk “The benefits of risk” Get in touch The Ocean Age's host Fed DeGobbi on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠, ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ or by emailing directly at [email protected] Ocean Age Podcast is produced by Charlotte Raffo and edited by Nebojša Lešević. Sarah Carpenter is our research assistant.Please send in your feedback: what do you want to hear more or less of? Any suggestions? Would love to hear what you think!
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  • #30: OceanMade with Emily Power – From Microsoft to Kelp Pots, developing a biodegradable seed starter pot, designing a successful pre-sale campaign, navigating imposter syndrome and making decisions with limited information.
    Send us a textEmily Power is the founder of OceanMade, who is bridging the gap between terrestrial agriculture and ocean innovation with her groundbreaking Kelp Pots. Sparked by Bren Smith's seaweed farming feature on '60 Minutes', Emily transitioned from her corporate role at Microsoft to ocean entrepreneurship. After pivoting from an initial sustainable marketplace concept, she discovered her mission while confronting the plastic pollution in her own garden. Drawing on seaweed's remarkable properties, Emily developed biodegradable seed starters that significantly outperform both plastic and existing alternatives. In this episode, Emily shares her winding path from corporate life to sustainable innovation, the challenges of developing Kelp Pots, and the surprising results of her experiments. She offers candid insights about imposter syndrome, the value of communication, and building a business that solves real problems while helping the planet. You will appreciate her insights on market validation, product testing, and communicating complex marine benefits to everyday consumers. This conversation offers valuable perspectives for anyone working to translate ocean innovation into practical, scalable solutions that create both environmental and economic impact.Timestamps:00:00:00 - Introduction and Emily's experience at Microsoft00:06:44 - Most valuable skills learned in corporate life: communication and initiative00:10:45 - Leaving Microsoft00:13:50 - First iteration of OceanMade as a sustainable marketplace00:15:06 - Products must solve problems first, sustainability comes second00:17:45 - Building your business as your own "utopia"00:20:35 - Most expensive mistakes: premature branding and imposter syndrome00:24:50 - How doubt led to thorough research and product validation00:27:30 - Current focus of OceanMade and Kelp Pots description00:28:45 - The "eureka" moment that inspired Kelp Pots while gardening00:30:40 - Problems with existing biodegradable pots in the market00:33:25 - Research, development and prototyping process00:35:47 - Breakthrough discovery: complete biodegradation and superior growth00:39:27 - Moving from MVP to market validation00:40:47 - Future R&D plans for different seaweed species and applications00:41:56 - Importance of seeking mentors and support00:44:31 - Making decisions with limited information and moving forward00:45:54 - Marketing strategy and pre-sale success00:49:01 - Using storytelling and the hero's journey in marketing00:52:06 - Target audience: home gardeners and anyone who wants to grow00:53:31 - Marketing channels: word of mouth, Reddit, and gardening communities00:57:31 - Future vision: eliminating plastic from gardening and agriculture00:59:01 - Challenges with scaling and maintaining sustainability01:02:26 - Advice for aspiring entrepreneurs in sustainable products01:04:56 - ChatGPT as a research assistant and closing informationUseful Links:Emily Power on LinkedInOceanMade and Kelp PotsMacro OceansFun Stuff DesignsDerek Sivers, author of "Anything You Want"Seth Godin, author and marketing expertBren Smith, author of "Eat Like A Fish"Get in touch The Ocean Age's host Fed DeGobbi on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠, ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ or by emailing him directly at [email protected]
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  • Update: New Chapter Coming Soon
    Send us a textThis is a brief update episode where I share my plans for the direction of the podcast going forward and the thinking behind it. New episode coming later this month!In the meantime, I'd love to hear your thoughts; feel free to reach out on social media with your feedback or suggestions for topics you'd like me to cover. Many thanks, and see you soon.Best,FedFed DeGobbi on Linkedin and X.
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