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Tim Crawford and Isaac Sacolick, both former Chief Information Officers and world-class CIO advisors, join Michael Krigsman on CXOTalk episode 909 to break down why enterprise AI strategies are failing, what separates transformational CIOs from those who are drowning, and why earning your seat at the table matters more than ever in 2026.

You'll discover:
✅ Why Tim says both AI strategy AND IT execution are failing, and what CIOs are focused on instead of outcomes
✅ The "three-legged race" framework: how CIO behavior, IT culture, and external perception must align for strategic credibility
✅ Why most CIOs have only a "layperson's understanding" of their own business, and how that kills AI value
✅ Tim's two swim lanes of AI success: invisible integration or robust training (there is no middle ground)
✅ Why Isaac says AI is "reshaping" business but not yet "transforming" it, and the product management shift that changes everything
✅ How to evaluate agentic AI: the human-in-the-loop vs. human-out-of-the-loop decision framework and why cybersecurity proves you can't wait
✅ The shadow AI paradox: why the best CIOs encourage it (with guardrails) instead of shutting it down
✅ The three skills every IT professional needs now: business acumen, critical thinking, and data literacy

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Cold open: "If you think you should have a seat at the table, you've failed"
0:35 Why both AI strategy and IT execution are failing
2:08 The productivity measurement problem with AI
2:45 What CEOs and boards want from CIOs in 2026
4:28 Why CIOs don't truly understand their business
6:54 Why organizations are stuck in AI pilot mode
9:04 Tim's 2 swim lanes: invisible AI vs. training-wrapped AI
11:23 Audience Q&A: Inside-out thinking vs. outside-in thinking
14:34 The 3-legged race: earning your seat at the table
17:09 Moving from AI efficiency to true business transformation
20:03 The shift from project-oriented to product-oriented IT
20:31 AI governance, CISO alignment, and data sensitivity
27:15 Agentic AI: fully autonomous vs. human-in-the-loop
34:46 Agentic AI strategy and the value equation (opportunity minus cost)
38:46 Shadow AI: innovation source or security threat?
43:00 Governance as culture, not a bolt-on
46:00 The AI skills gap: business acumen, critical thinking, data skills, and curiosity
49:46 Are survival-mode CIOs sabotaging their careers?
52:15 What CIO greatness looks like in 2026

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MIT and Stanford professor Alex "Sandy" Pentland, one of the most cited researchers in the world with over 165,000 citations, explains why the real AI advantage isn't smarter models but collective intelligence. It's smarter humans working together with AI as the connective tissue. Drawing from his latest book Shared Wisdom, Pentland reveals the frameworks behind community intelligence and why data ownership, not frontier AI, will determine who wins the next decade.

You'll discover:

✅ Why "people plus AI" consistently beats AI alone, and the hedge fund evidence that proves it
✅ How "AI buddies" are replacing corporate manuals, newsletters, and hallway conversations to keep distributed teams aligned
✅ The Deliberation.io tool that makes meetings more than twice as effective by neutralizing power dynamics and keeping groups focused
✅ Why a 350,000-person multinational is cutting in-house staff to 150,000 while hiring 100,000 more project-based workers, and how AI enables that shift
✅ How a doctor with zero technical background built a hospital operating system in 6 weeks using AI tools
✅ The staggering stat: AI costs are dropping by 50% every 3.5 months, a factor of 1,000 over three years, and what that means for personal, on-device AI
✅ Why China's Belt and Road and India's Citizen Stack (1.4 billion customers signed up) are quietly winning the global data game while Silicon Valley focuses on frontier models
✅ Sandy's provocative proposal: a 10% equity contribution to sovereign wealth funds at company formation, which would have created a $10 trillion US fund if started in 1990

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Why AI alone loses money: the hedge fund reality check
2:07 Shared wisdom, community intelligence, and organizational culture
4:25 AI buddies: the brilliant librarian inside your company
5:44 Deliberation.io: making meetings 2x more effective
7:01 Using AI for exploration and long-range strategic thinking
11:29 Who's to blame when AI fails: executives or the machine?
14:28 Why AI can't do causality and what that means for leaders
18:14 AI's killer app for remote work and distributed organizations
21:09 A doctor built a hospital OS in 6 weeks: small teams, massive impact
24:09 Job displacement, social safety nets, and the sovereign wealth fund idea
27:01 Reinventing education: Costa Rica's bet and the MIT Media Lab model
32:16 LLMs vs. older AI: why you need both (and the loyalagents.org initiative)
37:13 Practical starting points for redesigning work with AI
40:16 Misinformation, data provenance, and the billion-dollar North Korea problem
48:50 The global data race: China, India, UAE, and why frontier models aren't the game
54:00 Cybersecurity warning: agentic AI creates massive new attack surfaces

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🎙️ ABOUT CXOTALK
CXOTalk features unfiltered conversations with C-suite executives from major companies about AI, digital transformation, and business strategy. Hosted by Michael Krigsman.
Episode 907 | Recorded February 8, 2026

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AI coding tools are writing more code than ever, but your software isn't shipping any faster. Welcome to the AI Paradox and the solution, intelligent orchestration.

Bill Staples, CEO of GitLab, explains why AI-accelerated coding is actually creating massive downstream bottlenecks in code reviews, security checks, and deployment, and why adding more AI tools only makes the problem worse. GitLab's solution: intelligent orchestration across the entire software development lifecycle.

You'll discover:
✅ The "AI Paradox:" why faster coding isn't translating into faster software delivery
✅ How tool fragmentation and context-switching are killing developer productivity
✅ Why agents that thrive on context fail when your tools are siloed
✅ The "inner loop architecture" that makes AI agents 40% more accurate and 25% faster
✅ How GitLab's intelligent orchestration approach combines workflows, context, and guardrails
✅ Why mid-level developers are about to become strategic orchestrators (not just coders)
✅ The exact metrics CIOs should track, and why "lines of code" is the wrong one
✅ First steps: audit, consolidate, and pilot before going all-in on AI

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 The AI Paradox: Why faster coding doesn't mean faster delivery
1:10 How tool fragmentation creates developer bottlenecks
3:40 Why AI agents make complexity worse (not better)
5:12 Solving the AI automation problem: people, process, and technology
6:36 Inner loop architecture: co-locating agents and data
9:14 Intelligent orchestration: workflows, context, and guardrails
10:32 How GitLab's knowledge graph supercharges agent accuracy
12:49 Universal guardrails for humans and AI agents
13:39 Real-world results: 2-3x more merge requests, pipeline fixes in minutes
15:00 Common threads driving customer success
16:36 How AI transforms the mid-level developer's role
19:06 Advice for CIOs and CTOs putting this into practice
20:49 First steps: audit, measure, and pilot
22:45 Core metrics to evaluate AI's real value
25:02 Wrap-up

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Prashant Mehrotra, Chief AI Officer at US Bank, discusses how the bank evaluates AI initiatives and scales projects from pilot to production. He explains how to build customer trust through responsible AI design and prepare for the future of autonomous banking in CXOTalk episode 906. This conversation covers key aspects of AI in business and AI implementation within a large banking institution.
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Key topics discussed:
→ Why AI should transform processes, not simply make them more efficient
→ How U.S. Bank cut governance approval times in half by engaging risk partners early
→ The critical role of baselines in determining whether AI pilots scale or fail
→ Why "AI without data is a hallucination" and how the bank organizes Digital, Data, and AI under one leader
→ Building AI literacy across the entire workforce, from executives to frontline associates
→ The shift from building models to leveraging external foundation models at scale
→ Balancing personalization with privacy in customer interactions

Mehrotra emphasizes that the client remains the "North Star" for every AI initiative. He offers practical guidance on metrics, funding pilots through to production, and creating repeatable governance processes that accelerate rather than slow down AI deployment.

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📍 CHAPTERS:
00:00 Introduction: AI at U.S. Bank
00:30 How AI Ideas Get Evaluated and Funded
02:24 The Chief AI Officer Role: The 4 E's Framework
05:21 AI as a Transformative Force, Not Just Technology
09:05 Real-World AI Impact: Customer Service and Developer Tools
11:15 Measuring AI Success: Metrics That Matter
15:31 Why 95% of AI Pilots Fail: The Importance of Baselines
17:05 AI and Sustainability Goals
18:01 Managing Risk and Governance at Scale
22:46 Moving from Pilots to Production
25:54 Aligning AI Strategy with Business Objectives
28:39 Building an AI-Ready Workforce: Skills and Education
32:12 How AI Differs from ERP and Traditional Technology Rollouts
35:05 Regulatory Compliance in AI-Driven Customer Outreach
37:16 Leadership Structure and Cross-Functional Collaboration
39:07 Data as the Foundation of AI
42:20 Technology Platforms and Vendor Partnerships
43:24 Build vs. Buy: Leveraging Foundation Models
45:56 AI as Strategic Investment: Creating Durable Value
47:58 Personalization Without Being Invasive
50:14 Conclusion

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An AI chatbot that hallucinates is annoying. A robot or physical AI that hallucinates can cause injury or death. Burkhard Boeckem, CTO of Hexagon, explains why the bar for physical AI is fundamentally higher than digital AI, and what it takes to deploy robots that actually work in the real world. All this in CXOTalk episode 905.\
In this conversation, we cover:
→ What physical AI actually means (and why it's different from the AI you use every day)
→ Why digital twins are the foundation for training robots safely
→ The gap between impressive YouTube demos and robots that create economic value
→ Functional safety: the "big theme" coming in 2026
→ Cloud vs. edge computing for autonomous systems
→ Where robotics deployments fail (hint: it's not the technology)
→ What boards get wrong about robotics investments
→ Timeline: when will we see real autonomy?

Key insight: "Many boards overestimate the speed and underestimate the system work. It's not a software rollout—it's a complex engineering system."

Burkhard's prediction: Autonomy in constrained environments is 1-3 years away. The "butler humanoid" that does everything? Still a ways off.

⏱️ CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction: What is Physical AI?
02:06 Digital Twins as the Foundation
03:23 Understanding Ground Truth
06:42 Digital AI vs. Physical AI: Safety and Reliability
08:47 Real-World Business Applications
10:48 Security and Functional Safety
14:57 CES Announcements and Industry State
20:01 Cloud vs. Edge Computing in Robotics
22:32 Regulations for Physical AI
25:10 Addressing Bias in Physical AI
27:51 Timeline to Autonomy
31:46 Creating Economic Value Beyond Demos
33:26 Where Robotics Deployments Fail
35:59 The Future of Humanoid Form Factors
38:38 The Humanoid as User Interface
40:06 Digital Twins for Robotics
42:36 Fleet Collaboration and Swarm Intelligence
43:46 What Boards Get Wrong About Robotics
45:18 The Future of Work
46:32 Responsible Deployment
47:15 Manager AIs for Worker AIs?
48:16 Looking Ahead: Next 2-3 Years
49:37 Core Technical Challenges
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About the Guest:
Burkhard Boeckem is Chief Technology Officer at Hexagon, a global leader in digital reality solutions combining sensor, software, and autonomous technologies.

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