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Marketing Operators

Cody Plofker, Connor MacDonald, and Connor Rolain
Marketing Operators
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  • Marketing Operators

    Two 2027 DTC Shifts: AI Retention Marketing & TikTok Creator Burnout

    15/09/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    “We just had a hundred thousand people buy in the last 60 days.” 
    What does the future of retention marketing actually look like by 2027? 
    Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) unpack what Postscript’s AI memories mean for retention marketing’s future. They map out a 2027 playbook built on personalized experiences, even as TikTok Shop’s creator economy hits a breaking point. 
    Postscript is building unified profiles instead of fragmented SMS data. That shift promises holdout testing and customer lifetime value tracking. RCS already shows early lift in live tests. Meanwhile TikTok Shop’s incentive structure is pushing affiliates toward burnout. 
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    Motion 
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    NeonPixel 
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    Richpanel 
    https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops 
    Proppel 
    https://www.weareproppel.com/operators 
    Aftersell 
    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 
    Haus 
    https://www.haus.io/operators 
    Operators Portal 
    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard 
    Operators Newsletter 
    https://9operators.com/
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    Holiday Offers vs Black Friday, Cyber Monday: Which Comes First?

    08/09/2026 | 1h 5 mins.
    “Don’t let perfect measurement get in the way of good marketing” 
    How do Ridge, HexClad and Jones Road each structure Black Friday, Cyber offers differently? 
    Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) share how holiday marketing campaigns pull their ecommerce brands in completely different directions. 
    Shark Ninja becomes the opening case study, spending big on creator activations without measuring returns. The hosts counter with their own tactics, mixing steep weekend deal drops with full brand rebuilds between sales. The riskiest move this season turns out to be a discount that costs a brand its most loyal customers. Cody dives into Winks, a fresh sleep brand he and four other 9-figure executives are building from the ground up, and introduces Operators Build, the show capturing the entire journey from scratch.
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    Motion 
    https://9ops.co/motion-runneth 
    Haus 
    https://www.haus.io/operators 
    NeonPixel 
    https://9ops.co/neonpixel 
    Richpanel 
    https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops 
    Proppel 
    https://www.weareproppel.com/operators 
    Aftersell 
    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 
    Operators Portal 
    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard 
    Operators Newsletter 
    https://9operators.com/ 
    Operators Build 
    https://9ops.co/ops-build-ytplaylist
    Winks 
    https://getwinks.com/
  • Marketing Operators

    Incrementality Testing for Black Friday, Cyber Monday: What to Spend?

    01/09/2026 | 1h
    “It is so incredibly easy to not drive incremental results the week of Black Friday.”
    Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) share how they are approaching Q4 planning.
    Before scaling Black Friday, Cyber Monday spend, both HexClad and Ridge test incrementality with real control groups. That same discipline shapes their AMER vs CAC debate, since neither wants to scale spend that isn’t truly incremental. Also, AG1’s new gummy launch steps up, and so does its cannibalization risk. 
    Powered By 
    Motion 
    https://9ops.co/motion-runneth 
    NeonPixel 
    https://9ops.co/neonpixel 
    Haus 
    https://www.haus.io/operators 
    Richpanel 
    https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops 
    Aftersell 
    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 
    Proppel 
    https://9ops.co/weareproppel 
    Operators Newsletter 
    https://9operators.com/
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    “Leadership Is Leverage”: Motion’s CEO on the Future of Marketing

    25/08/2026 | 1h 12 mins.
    What changes when a single marketer creates as much value as an entire department? 
    Reza Khadjavi (Founder & CEO, Motion) joins Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road) to explain why he built Runneth, an AI agent meant to eventually replace Motion’s own product. He walks through the context engineering behind that shift and what it means for marketers. 
    Motion scrapped its own revenue targets right after a record quarter, betting the whole company on AI agents. Reza explains how markdown files and organized repositories turn those agents into something closer to a new hire. His advice: skip the Mac Mini, move to the cloud, and put close to 10% of payroll behind AI. 
    Powered By 
    Motion 
    https://9ops.co/motion-runneth 
    Proppel 
    https://9ops.co/weareproppel 
    Aftersell 
    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 
    Haus 
    https://www.haus.io/operators 
    NeonPixel 
    https://9ops.co/neonpixel 
    Richpanel 
    https://9ops.co/richpanel 
    Operators Portal 
    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard
    Operators Newsletter 
    https://9operators.com/
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    Funnel Coverage: The Upsell Fix Most Brands Never Check

    18/08/2026 | 1h 15 mins.
    How much can filtering a collection page actually lift average order value? What about cart, checkout, and post-purchase?
    Varun Kundra (Co-founder, Aftersell) joins Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) to unpack how ecommerce brands raise AOV. Four levers make that possible: collection page tests, product bundles, post purchase upsells, and cross brand advertising. 
    HexClad’s new collection page lifted revenue per user by 7% and AOV by $10. Single silhouette bundles need no extra education, but new pairings like Japanese cookware still do. Varun ties it back to Aftersell and Rokt Thanks. Together they’ve generated over $1B in upsell revenue at a take rate under 1%. 
    Powered By 
    Motion 
    https://9ops.co/motion-runneth 
    Aftersell 
    https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops 
    Haus 
    https://www.haus.io/operators 
    NeonPixel 
    https://9ops.co/neonpixel 
    Richpanel 
    https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops 
    Proppel 
    https://www.weareproppel.com/operators 
    More from Operators 
    Operators Portal 
    https://portal.9operators.com/dashboard 
    Operators Newsletter 
    https://9operators.com/
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About Marketing Operators
Some call it the greatest ecommerce podcast in existence. Behind three behemoth brands stand three juggernauts of the marketing world: Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) & Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad). Finally, they’re pulling back the curtain to give you a never-before-seen look at what works and what doesn’t work to drive growth.
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