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Marketing Operators

Cody Plofker, Connor MacDonald, and Connor Rolain
Marketing Operators
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  • Marketing Operators

    The Right Way to A/B Test Landing Pages on Meta Ads for Ecommerce

    30/06/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    “It’s not a test. It’s diversity for the Meta algorithm.” 
    Can running more landing pages hurt your ability to make decisions? 
    Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) dig into landing page optimization strategy, conversion rate optimization for Meta ads, and when structured testing is the wrong tool entirely. They cover what Jones Road learned from overdeveloping pages and what a disastrous A/B test on a new offer taught Ridge about how Meta allocates spend. 
    They examine the operational cost of landing page sprawl, how to structure a site-wide theme A/B test without introducing too many variables, and whether DTC brands at scale should slow down product launches or double down on them. AG1’s move into creatine opens a broader conversation about the limits of single-SKU subscription businesses along with where product expansion makes sense. 
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    How to 2x Your A/B Testing Output Without More Budget

    23/06/2026 | 1h 14 mins.
    “We used to try to win every day. Now we’re willing to sacrifice entire months.”
    What does it mean to optimize ad spend when there’s no universal answer?
    Michael Ting (GM of DTC, JAXXON) joins Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) and Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) to challenge one of the most common assumptions in ecommerce email marketing and paid media: that there is a single optimized ad spend. There isn’t. The better question is what you’re trying to achieve and over what time horizon.
    Michael walks through how JAXXON uses cost per email signup to make confident budget decisions, spending aggressively into slow seasons and monetizing that list when it matters most. The conversation also covers decision quality frameworks, doubling AB testing velocity, and how daily performance reporting builds operator instinct over time.
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    Operators Newsletter
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    DTC Content Creation Process That Wins on Paid Social

    16/06/2026 | 57 mins.
    “The digital deliverables have outpaced production company knowledge.”
    How do you build a repeatable content creation process without hiring a full agency?
    Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) break down how they approach content production across every budget level; ranging from $50k brand shoot days to $100 iPhone clips that outperform everything else in the ad account.  
    The episode covers the full content production stack: multi-team shoot briefing, on-set creative strategy, and the in-house studio advantage. The trio also gets into clipping, AI-generated UGC, and whether dead internet theory is already shaping how products go viral.
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    Richpanel
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    Aftersell
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    Operators Newsletter
    https://9operators.com/
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    How AI Is Reshaping Ecommerce Growth Teams: HexClad & Jones Road

    09/06/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    “We’re not hiring less because of AI. We just expect each hire to be more productive.” 
    Is AI shrinking your marketing team, or just changing who belongs on it? 
    Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) get into how two of the most operator-driven brands in ecommerce are rethinking their AI marketing team structure heading into the second half of 2026. 
    They cover which roles are compressing, which are expanding, and what it actually looks like to build a leaner growth team that outputs more. Cody breaks down the CRO program he runs with one person that used to require six. Connor explains why HexClad hired more people after building an AI-powered seeding system, not fewer. And both share how they think about headcount requests now, and what they make teams prove before saying yes. 
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    Richpanel
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    Operators Newsletter
    https://9operators.com/
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    Meta Ads Catalog, TikTok Shops + GMV Max, and the Future of Creative

    02/06/2026 | 59 mins.
    Can Meta and TikTok Shop be combined into a single playbook? 
    Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) are fresh off the Meta Performance Marketing Summit and cover what the event signaled, where paid social is heading, and what most brands are still sleeping on. 
    They explain Meta betting big on product feed enrichment as the foundation for better AI-generated creative, and how GMV Max is quietly powering TikTok Shop’s top brands. The duo also reveals creators driving 60% of shop revenue, the Meta ads catalog, and TikTok Shop affiliate flywheels. 
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    Aftersell
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    Haus
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    Operators Newsletter
    https://9operators.com/
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About Marketing Operators
Some call it the greatest ecommerce podcast in existence. Behind three behemoth brands stand three juggernauts of the marketing world: Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) & Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad). Finally, they’re pulling back the curtain to give you a never-before-seen look at what works and what doesn’t work to drive growth.
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