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    JOHN CHISUM: Can AI Write Christian Music?

    02/03/2026 | 25 mins.
    Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
     
    TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Can AI Write Christian Music?
    HOSTS: John Chisum
    EPISODE SUMMARY
    In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum tackles one of the most pressing issues facing today's music creators: artificial intelligence in songwriting.
    Fresh off multiple interviews at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) convention, where AI was the dominant topic of conversation, John unpacks the realities, risks, and responsibilities surrounding AI-generated music. From deep fakes and copyright confusion to spiritual discernment and creative integrity, this episode dives deep into what AI means for Christian songwriters.
    John makes a clear and passionate case: AI may be a powerful tool, but it can never replace the calling, humanity, and spiritual formation of a real songwriter. This conversation challenges creators not to take the easy way out, but to steward their gifts faithfully in a rapidly shifting technological landscape.
     
    EPISODE TOPICS
    The rise of AI-generated music
    Experiences at NRB and industry-wide AI discussions
    Rights, revenue, and reputation concerns in publishing
    AI "scraping" artist catalogs and copyright implications
    Spotify removing millions of AI-generated tracks
    Deep fakes and reputational harm
    Theological and spiritual questions about AI worship songs
    When AI can be a helpful tool versus a creative shortcut
    Why real songwriters still matter
    Growing as a communicator instead of outsourcing creativity
     
    KEY HIGHLIGHTS
    AI Is Here to Stay
    John acknowledges that AI technology will only improve. Like the digital shift of the late 20th century, we are in a major cultural and creative transition. The key question is not whether AI exists—but how we respond to it.
    Rights, Revenue, and Reputation
    AI-generated songs often "scrape" existing catalogs to mimic an artist's style, raising serious concerns about intellectual property and theft. Who owns these songs? Who gets paid? And what happens when an artist's name or likeness is misused through deep fakes?
    Humanity Cannot Be Scraped
    While AI can generate polished production and flawless vocals, John argues that it lacks pathos, testimony, and authentic spiritual experience. A great song carries one clear idea rooted in real human emotion. Production may impress, but stripped down to piano or guitar, the song must stand on its own.
    Prompt Writing vs. Songwriting
    If a creator inputs only a prompt and receives a finished song, John draws a firm line: that is not songwriting. True songwriting involves crafting lyrics, shaping melody, wrestling with structure, and allowing personal testimony to flow into the work.
    Appropriate Use of AI
    John is not anti-technology. Using AI to generate a demo of a fully written lyric and melody can be a legitimate tool. The issue is not assistance—it is substitution.
    Spiritual Discernment in the AI Era
    Can God use AI-generated lyrics if they contain truth? Possibly. Truth is truth. But Christian communicators are called to more than efficiency—they are called to communion with God. Songwriting is not just output; it is formation.
    Don't Shortchange the Process
    The labor of crafting lyrics and melodies over time shapes the songwriter. Taking creative shortcuts may produce sound, but it does not produce growth.
     
    FINAL TAKEAWAY
    Technology may accelerate production, but it cannot replace calling.
    AI can be a tool—but it must never become a substitute for the Spirit-led, deeply human process of writing songs. God called you to be a songwriter not simply to produce music, but to spend time with Him, to grow, and to communicate truth from your own heart.
    Do not shortchange yourself. Do not surrender your voice. Steward your gift, embrace the discipline, and create as a real human being empowered by the Spirit of God.
     
    RESOURCES & LINKS:
    Link to the John Piper ChatGPT clip John mentioned in the episode.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIMZH7DEPPQ
     
    Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
    NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
     
    FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
    https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
     
    Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
    https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
     
    Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
    https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
     
    Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
    https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
  • Song Revolution with John Chisum

    JACKSON DREYER: Letting Life Shape The Song

    23/02/2026 | 37 mins.
    Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
     
    TITLE: JACKSON DREYER: Letting Life Shape The Song
     
    HOSTS: John Chisum
     
    EPISODE SUMMARY
    In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with singer-songwriter Jackson Dreyer for an honest and wide-ranging conversation about creativity, discipline, and finding your voice as a songwriter. From growing up outside Chicago to planting roots in East Nashville, Jackson shares how movement, architecture, relationships, and everyday life experiences shape his songwriting process. The conversation explores how stepping away from constant noise creates space for emotional clarity, lyrical depth, and authentic expression.
    This episode is a thoughtful look at how songwriters can stay inspired, grounded, and creatively alive while navigating both personal growth and artistic ambition.
     
    EPISODE TOPICS
    The connection between physical movement and creative clarity
    How running and solitude spark songwriting ideas
    Growing up near Chicago and the influence of architecture and place
    Finding inspiration in cities, communities, and everyday surroundings
    Living and writing in East Nashville as a songwriter
    Turning real emotions into honest lyrics
    Avoiding creative overload and reclaiming mental space
    Letting life experiences shape better songs
     
    KEY HIGHLIGHTS
    Jackson shares how running helps him reconnect with his thoughts and emotions, often leading to new song ideas.
    A discussion on how silence and mental margin are essential for meaningful songwriting.
    Reflections on how cities like Chicago and Nashville influence creativity, identity, and artistic perspective.
    Insight into how architecture and visual beauty can fuel musical inspiration.
    Honest thoughts on balancing productivity with presence as a modern songwriter.
    Encouragement to embrace real life—relationships, movement, environment—as songwriting fuel.
     
    FINAL TAKEAWAY
    Great songs don't come from constant noise—they come from paying attention. By creating space to think, feel, and live fully, songwriters can tap into deeper honesty and write from a more authentic place. Creativity thrives when we slow down, observe our surroundings, and allow life itself to shape the songs we write.
     
    Resources & Links:
     
    Check out Jackson Dreyer
    https://www.jacksondreyer.com/ 
     
    Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
    NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
     
    FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
    https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide 
    Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
    https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge 
     
    Be a part of NCS Community!
    https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community 
     
    NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective!
    https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
  • Song Revolution with John Chisum

    LAURA OSNES: Faith, Art, and Starting Over

    16/02/2026 | 38 mins.
    Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
     
    TITLE: LAURA OSNES: Faith, Art, and Starting Over
     
    HOSTS: John Chisum
     
    EPISODE SUMMARY:
    In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes Broadway star, film actress, and singer-songwriter Laura Osnes for a deeply personal conversation about calling, identity, and creativity. Laura shares her journey from early musical theater roots to starring on Broadway, navigating career success, public controversy, and a major life pivot that led her to Nashville. The conversation explores how a season of loss and uncertainty opened the door to songwriting, personal expression, and new purpose beyond the stage. Laura also introduces her latest venture, Stagecraft, an online training platform designed to equip and mentor the next generation of stage performers with both excellence and integrity.
     
    EPISODE TOPICS:
    Laura Osnes' early beginnings and Broadway career
    Winning a Broadway role through reality television
    Identity and faith in high-pressure creative environments
    Navigating career disruption and public controversy
    Moving from performance to songwriting as personal expression
    Finding your voice outside of roles and expectations
    Comparison, authenticity, and creative confidence
    Differences between stage performance and film acting
    Launching Stagecraft to mentor young performers
    Encouragement for artists walking unconventional paths
     
    KEY HIGHLIGHTS:
    Laura's reflection on discovering her identity beyond performance and public success.
    Insight into how songwriting became a new creative outlet after a season of loss and silence.
    A powerful discussion on authenticity and resisting comparison in artistic careers.
    Lessons learned from navigating rejection, cancellation, and rebuilding with integrity.
    Practical wisdom on preparation, patience, and being ready when opportunity appears.
    The heart behind Stagecraft and its mission to equip young artists with skill and character.
     
    FINAL TAKEAWAY:
    Creative calling is not limited to a single platform or season. This episode reminds songwriters and artists that identity must be rooted deeper than success, roles, or recognition. When doors close, new expressions of purpose can emerge. By staying faithful, authentic, and open to unexpected paths, artists can discover new ways to share their voice and make meaningful impact.
     
    Resources & Links:
     
    Check out Laura Osnes
    https://lauraosnes.com/ 
     
    Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
    NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
     
    FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
    https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide 
    Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
    https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge 
     
    Be a part of NCS Community!
    https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community 
     
    NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective!
    https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
  • Song Revolution with John Chisum

    MICAH CHRISTOPHER: Writing From Where You Are

    09/02/2026 | 39 mins.
    Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
     
    TITLE: MICAH CHRISTOPHER: Writing From Where You Are
     
    HOSTS: John Chisum
     
    EPISODE SUMMARY:
    In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with artist and songwriter Micah Christopher to explore the journey from local church leadership to signing with Integrity Music. Micah shares his story of faith, obedience, and gradual growth, emphasizing how songwriting developed alongside spiritual maturity rather than overnight success. The conversation highlights the tension between calling and platform, the importance of community, and the often unseen seasons that prepare songwriters for wider opportunities. Together, John and Micah unpack what it really means to pursue songwriting with humility, patience, and purpose in a rapidly changing music landscape.
     
    EPISODE TOPICS:
    Micah Christopher's faith and songwriting journey
    Transitioning from local worship leader to recording artist
    Signing with Integrity Music
    Writing songs for the church versus writing for personal expression
    The role of obedience and faithfulness in creative growth
    Balancing ambition, calling, and character
    Community, mentorship, and long-term development
    Navigating expectations in the modern Christian music industry
     
    KEY HIGHLIGHTS:
    Micah's honest reflection on slow, steady growth rather than sudden success.
    Insight into how songwriting evolved naturally out of worship leadership and spiritual formation.
    A discussion on the dangers of chasing platform before being rooted in purpose.
    Encouragement for songwriters who feel overlooked or stuck in hidden seasons.
    Practical wisdom on staying grounded while stepping into new opportunities.
    A reminder that label deals and recognition are outcomes, not destinations.
     
    FINAL TAKEAWAY:
    Faithful songwriting is built over time through obedience, humility, and community. Rather than striving for quick success, this episode challenges songwriters to trust the process, steward their current season well, and allow their craft and character to grow together. When the foundation is solid, the opportunities that come will have lasting impact.
     
    Resources & Links:
     
    Check out Micah Christopher
    https://www.micahchristopher.com/ 
    https://www.instagram.com/micahchristopher_/?hl=en 
     
    Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
    NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
     
    FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
    https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide 
    Be a part of NCS Community!
    https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community 
     
    NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective!
    https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
  • Song Revolution with John Chisum

    JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Writing

    02/02/2026 | 31 mins.
    Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
     
    TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Writing
     
    HOSTS: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
     
    EPISODE SUMMARY
    In this opening episode of Season Four of Song Revolution, John and co-host Bryant Urich reflect on the highlights of the past year while casting vision for 2026. They discuss the growth of the NCS community, the return of in-person songwriting retreats, the launch of NCS Records, and meaningful conversations from recent podcast guests. The episode then shifts into a practical and encouraging discussion about one of the biggest challenges songwriters face: making the most of their time. Through honest conversation and real-life examples, John and Bryant challenge listeners to move past discouragement, establish sustainable writing rhythms, and take intentional action toward their calling as songwriters.
     
    EPISODE TOPICS
    Highlights from 2025 and vision for 2026
    Growth of the NCS community and songwriting retreats
    Launch and expansion of NCS Records
    Lessons learned from recent podcast guests
    Overcoming discouragement and writer's block
    Time management and creative rhythms for songwriters
    Discipline versus legalism in the creative process
    The importance of consistency, accountability, and action
     
    KEY HIGHLIGHTS
    A reflection on how in-person writing retreats and community connection reignited creativity and collaboration.
    Insight into why many songwriters struggle to write consistently and how exhaustion, discouragement, and unrealistic expectations play a role.
    A practical reminder that inspiration often follows action, not the other way around.
    A discussion on identifying personal energy rhythms and choosing realistic writing times that fit current seasons of life.
    Encouragement to view songwriting as a calling worth intentional investment rather than waiting to feel "good enough."
    A reframing of the common question from "Am I good enough?" to "Am I called enough to show up and do the work?"
     
    FINAL TAKEAWAY
    Songwriting growth doesn't come from waiting for the perfect moment or the perfect idea. It comes from showing up consistently, feeding your creativity, and taking small but intentional steps forward. If you feel called to write songs, the next step is action. Treat your craft with purpose, surround yourself with community, and commit to using your time wisely so the songs inside you don't stay unwritten.
     
     
    Resources & Links:
     
    Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
    NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
     
    FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
    https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide 
     
     
     
    Be a part of NCS Community!
    https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community 
     
    NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective!
    https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/

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