293 episodes
- Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: LAURA OSNES: How Do You Keep Going When the World Says No?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
Broadway star Laura Osnes joins John Chisum to talk about faith, resilience, creativity, and finding courage after seasons of rejection and hardship. Laura shares what she has learned from her Broadway career, her experience performing for the Memorial Day concert in Washington, D.C., and the importance of staying grounded in who God has called you to be rather than comparing yourself to others.
EPISODE TOPICS
Laura's Broadway journey and performing at the Memorial Day concert
The preparation and pressure behind a major live broadcast
Handling rejection, criticism, and negativity
Overcoming comparison and embracing your unique gifts
The mental and emotional challenges of a creative career
Equipping the next generation through Stagecraft
Trusting God when life doesn't look the way you expected
Seeking God first in difficult or uncertain seasons
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
Laura reflects on the honor of performing for Gold Star families and veterans.
She talks honestly about the rejection and criticism that can come with being in the spotlight.
Comparison can steal your joy; confidence grows when you embrace the gifts God has uniquely given you.
A successful creative career requires more than talent—it takes resilience, preparation, skill, and perseverance.
Through Stagecraft, Laura is using her experience to equip the next generation of theater artists.
Laura's encouragement for difficult seasons: "Seek first the kingdom of heaven."
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Your calling isn't about becoming someone else or achieving someone else's version of success. Stay rooted in who God created you to be, keep showing up through rejection and uncertainty, and seek Him first. The rest can unfold in His timing.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Follow along with Laura Onses!
https://lauraosnes.com/
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
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Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
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https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ - Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: MEREDITH ANDREWS: Letting God Take Care of the Breadth
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum sits down with worship leader, songwriter, recording artist, and two-time Dove Award winner Meredith Andrews. Meredith shares the journey that led her from leading worship as a young girl to a life of ministry, music, and songwriting.
Meredith talks about learning to be faithful wherever God has placed her, letting go of seasons and ministries when God says it is time to move on, and finding her identity in Him rather than in success or performance. She also shares how her understanding of God's presence and character has deepened through seasons of pain, questioning, and healing.
The conversation also explores Meredith's new album with the Liberty University Worship Collective and the kingdom-centered theology behind her music.
EPISODE TOPICS
Meredith's journey into worship leading
Learning to be faithful in every season
Returning to Liberty University for her new album
Leaving a successful ministry season and passing the baton
Finding identity beyond ministry and performance
Redefining success through faithfulness and obedience
How suffering and hardship deepen our understanding of God
Knowing Jesus beyond religious expectations
The kingdom of God and the kingship of Christ
The story and theology behind Meredith's song "Prevail"
Healing from rejection and discovering God's protection
Trusting God when doors close
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
Meredith recalls being 17 when God gave her a defining message: "Be faithful where I've placed you."
She learned that worship begins in the secret place before it ever reaches a platform.
After a decade of ministry at Harvest, Meredith recognized that the season had ended and learned to release something she had helped build.
Meredith shares a powerful lesson from God: "You take care of the depth and I'll take care of the breadth."
She explains why kingdom success is measured by faithfulness, obedience, and showing up with joy rather than numbers or recognition.
Meredith reflects on how pain, grief, and suffering have revealed the kindness and goodness of God to her.
She encourages listeners to find their identity as God's beloved children rather than in their ministry output or performance.
Meredith reframes rejection as potential protection and encourages people to bring their wounds honestly before God so He can bring healing and redemption.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Faithfulness matters more than visibility. Meredith Andrews' story is a reminder that our identity is not found in our platforms, accomplishments, or ministry success, but in who we are as God's children.
Sometimes God asks us to release what we have built, walk through painful seasons, or trust Him when doors close. But He remains faithful. Our role is to pursue depth, obedience, and intimacy with Him while trusting Him with the breadth and impact of our lives.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Follow along with Meredith Andrews!
https://meredithandrews.com/
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ - Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JORDAN SMITH: When You Can Sing Anything, What Do You Say?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum sits down with Jordan Smith, one of the most recognizable voices to emerge from The Voice, for an honest conversation about music, faith, creativity, and the journey of discovering what comes next.
Jordan shares behind-the-scenes stories from his unforgettable time on The Voice, including how "Chandelier" became his breakthrough performance and what it was like stepping onto that stage as a college student from a small town in Kentucky with no industry experience.
The conversation also explores Jordan's latest project, The People's Hymnal, his collaboration with arranger Tommy Profitt, and his desire to continually take creative risks rather than repeat what he has already done. Jordan opens up about the personal growth that has shaped his artistry, learning to establish boundaries, and the often unseen cost behind music that brings people hope and encouragement.
EPISODE TOPICS
Jordan Smith's journey from a small town in Kentucky to The Voice
The story behind his iconic "Chandelier" performance
What it was like performing for four superstar coaches
The making of The People's Hymnal
Reimagining beloved hymns while staying authentic
Jordan's gospel music influences
Collaborating with Tommy Profitt
The Resurrection of the King and "Mary Did You Know"
Navigating different musical directions and opportunities
Why great artists need to take creative risks
Finding the courage to say something meaningful
How personal growth influences songwriting and artistry
Learning boundaries and the importance of saying no
The unseen cost behind music that brings people hope
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
Jordan chose "Chandelier" during an early audition because he believed successfully performing such a challenging song could help him earn a place on The Voice.
His performance became one of the defining moments of his time on the show, including an unforgettable reaction from Gwen Stefani.
The People's Hymnal grew out of the response to Jordan's performance of "Great Is Thy Faithfulness" on The Voice and his desire to return to that musical territory.
Jordan credits Tommy Profitt with pushing him creatively and drawing things out of him that he didn't know were there.
He shares wisdom from Amy Grant: the risk for an artist isn't always in how they sing, but in what they have to say.
He has learned the importance of boundaries, taking time for family and himself, and becoming more comfortable saying no to the wrong opportunities so he can say yes to the right ones.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
The most meaningful creative work often comes from a willingness to take risks and share something genuine. Jordan Smith's story is a reminder that the hope people receive through our music is often born from the places where we've experienced the greatest growth, struggle, and transformation.
As artists and songwriters, we aren't simply called to repeat what has worked before. We're called to keep growing, keep exploring, and have the courage to say something that comes from our own experience and perspective. Sometimes the greatest creative risk is simply being honest about what we've learned along the way.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Follow along with Jordan Smith!
https://www.therealjordansmith.com/
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ - Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: HOPE DARST: What Happens When God Asks You to Let Go?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
Hope Darst shares the story behind her music, from laying down her childhood dream of becoming an artist to eventually stepping into a music career later in life. She talks about how God used years of hidden preparation, healing, and surrender to reshape her identity and teach her to trust His timing.
Hope also opens up about overcoming insecurity, fear, depression, and lies about her identity—and how grounding herself in God's Word transformed her life. Her story is a powerful reminder that our calling is bigger than our career, gifts, or success.
EPISODE TOPICS
Trusting God's timing
Surrendering personal dreams
Finding identity in Christ
Overcoming lies, fear, and insecurity
The importance of being planted in a local church
How life experiences shape songwriting
Using your gifts without making them your identity
Ministering through every season of life
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
Hope explains why God asked her to lay down her dream of becoming an artist without asking her to stop singing.
She shares how "Peace Be Still" sat for years before becoming her breakthrough song during COVID.
Years of feeling unseen were actually years of preparation and transformation.
Hope describes how Scripture reshaped her thinking and helped her recognize the lies she had believed about herself.
She emphasizes the importance of being rooted in a local church for community, accountability, and spiritual growth.
Hope's definition of success has shifted from being known as a great singer to being known as someone who loved people and ministered the gospel.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Your current season is not your forever season. God can be working deeply in you even when your circumstances don't look like what you expected. Surrender your timeline, trust His process, and remember that your identity and calling are ultimately found in Christ—not in your career, platform, or accomplishments.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Follow along with Hope Darst!
https://www.hopedarst.com/
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ - Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: CLARK BECKHAM: Finding Your Voice and Following Your Calling
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
Clark Beckham, American Idol Season 14 runner-up, shares his journey from growing up in Nashville to discovering his unique voice as a singer, songwriter, and musician. He talks about overcoming rejection, developing his vocal and musical skills, and learning humility through his American Idol experience.
Clark also explains how his love for R&B, jazz, gospel, and complex musical arrangements shapes his worship and songwriting. Most importantly, he shares how he sees music as a way to connect with God and express what he sees through "redeemed eyes."
EPISODE TOPICS
Overcoming rejection and finding opportunities
Discovering your unique musical identity
Growing up in a musical family
Developing vocal technique and mixed voice
Learning music through curiosity and experimentation
Clark's American Idol journey
Faith and purpose in the entertainment industry
Learning humility through losing
Using music as a personal expression of worship
Writing authentic love songs
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
Clark shares how Nashville's music scene initially rejected him because he didn't fit the country music mold.
He learned guitar and piano largely on his own and developed a deep understanding of music by asking, "Why does this sound like that?"
Vocal training transformed his range and helped prepare him for his signature high notes on American Idol.
His time on American Idol strengthened rather than weakened his faith and sense of calling.
Finishing second taught Clark an important lesson about pride, humility, and trusting that winning isn't always what's best.
Clark sees complex chords and musical beauty as part of God's creative design.
His songwriting is rooted in observing God's creation and expressing it authentically through music.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Your calling doesn't have to look like everyone else's. Clark's story is a reminder to embrace the unique way God has wired you, keep developing your craft, and resist the temptation to measure success by recognition or winning. Authentic artistry happens when your gifts, your experiences, and your faith come together.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Follow along with Clark Beckham!
https://clarkbeckham.com/
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
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