On this episode Josh talks with musician Matt Malley, who is best known for being the original bassist of Counting Crows. During the conversation the two talk about Matt's three sons, his interest in Indian music and culture, leaving Counting Crows to be more present with his family, mentoring his sons during their musical journeys, his childhood, how he got into music and his career in music before and with Counting Crows. A Spotify playlist of the music you heard on the show can be found at https://bit.ly/3MPelRp. To check out Matt's YouTube page you can go to https://www.youtube.com/@mattmalley. (Interview recorded on February 5, 2026)