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• 151. Natasha Frangos: How to sustain culture whilst growing rapidly - boardroom lessons from HaysMac

  Natasha Frangos is Managing Partner of HaysMac. Tune in to hear her thoughts on: Key moments in HaysMac’s growth (1:50) What board members can do when they feel too many people are having a say in decision-making (7:39) How boards needed to communicate when overseeing change (10:02) The respective roles of management and the board in developing and communicating strategy (11:17) How boards ensure they have internal candidates for CEO succession (16:58) Tash’s hardest challenges stepping up to CEO as an internal candidate (19:34) How a sector-first approach led to growth (22:38) The pros and cons of international expansion (25:43) How South African expansion unlocked talent pipeline (29:15) The role and nature of growth targets in scaling (31:38) How Tash thinks about financing risk and liquidity as the firm scales (34:35) Why HaysMac appointed independent directors and how they’ve added value (36:42) ⚡The lightning round ⚡(40:08) Host: Oliver Cummings Producer: Will Felton Editor: Penelope Coumau Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: [email protected] Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

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• 150. Sir Douglas Flint CBE: Chairing listed companies - lessons from the BP Macondo crisis, HSBC and the abrdn rebrand

  Sir Douglas Flint CBE is chair of Aberdeen, IP Group and the Royal Marsden NHS Trust and former chair of HSBC Group Holdings and NED at BP. Tune in to hear his thoughts on: The most valuable lessons Sir Douglas has learnt from the chairs he’s worked with (2:07) How chairs build consensus - the example of BP Chair Peter Sutherland (4:45) How to handle a split board (7:26) Lessons from the boardroom in the BP Macondo crisis (13:11) What the crisis teaches board members about risk (20:37) What it teaches about stakeholder relationships (24:44) What it teaches about how boards can help CEOs during crises (26:44) The board’s rationale for the Standard Life Aberdeen to abrdn rebrand (31:21) Why the board decided to rebrand again to Aberdeen (38:13) Advice Sir Douglas would offer to a board member facing a rebranding decision today (39:27) ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(42:11) Host: Oliver Cummings Producer: Will Felton Editor: Penelope Coumau Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: [email protected] Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

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• 149. Mark Winlow: Bank & Insurance Boards - lessons from the boards of Aon and Starling Bank

  Mark Winlow is Chair of several financial services companies, including Aon UK and Redwood Bank. Formerly, he was Audit Chair at Starling Bank and NED at Tesco Underwriting, AIG Life Ltd, and others. Tune in to hear his thoughts on: Three examples where insurance boards have changed the trajectory of their businesses (2:18) Non-execs transitioning to CEO (5:19) Mark’s heuristics for understanding insurance businesses (8:02) Three things every board member needs to understand to add value (12:34) Where board members need to go to understand people & culture (14:50) The relationship between insurance and bank boards and respective regulators (17:37) Why Mark decided to chair Redwood after the entire board had resigned (22:41) Starling Bank - the moment key execs left and founded Monzo (29:55) How Monzo out-marketed Starling (32:44) Why Mark thinks the tortoise strategy will beat the hare (34:05) ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(40:16) Host: Oliver Cummings Producer: Will Felton Editor: Penelope Coumau Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: [email protected] Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

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• 148. Professor Doyin Atewologun: Should boards ditch DEI?

  Professor Atewologun is the former Dean of the Rhodes Scholarship at the University of Oxford and is currently the Founder and CEO of Delta, Advisor to the board of the Tearfund and Trustee at the Old Fire Station. In this conversation, we cover: What did the Parker review get right and where did it go wrong? (01:47) Is there a relationship between diversity and performance? (5:39) The difference between equity and equality, and when it’s right to pursue one versus the other (09:50) Should boards ditch DEI? (20:43) Practical examples of boards that get DEI right (29:07) Examples where they get it wrong (32:48) ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(37:04)Host: Oliver Cummings Producer: Will Felton Editor: Penelope Coumau Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: [email protected] Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

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• 147. Tessa Clarke: Sticking, quitting & the ideal NED: The board’s role in Olio’s success

  Tessa Clarke is co-founder and CEO of Olio, which  has over 8.5 million users, across 65+ countries, who have together shared over 125 million meals and 15 million household items. Tessa is a member of the Small Business Growth Forum, Advisory Board Member at Stop Ecocide International and Venture Partner at Mustard Seed MAZE. Listen to hear her thoughts on: The Olio story  (02:08) The three moments the board added most value (3:19) The hardest moments in the journey (4:23) Where board members can add more value to founders (7:58) How Tessa decided to stick or quit with strategy and tactics (10:19) How boards members can help founders set time and ambition frames (14:18) Where uncertainty is helpful and necessary (16:01) Why Tessa felt she needed non-exec board members (21:01) Key qualities Tessa looks for in board members (23:58) Critical moments where board members have added value (25:48) Tessa’s unique “rules of the road” board document (28:27) Why Tessa does board assessments (34:22)  ⚡The Lightning Round ⚡(39:45)Host: Oliver Cummings Producer: Will Felton Editor: Penelope Coumau Music: Kate Mac Audio: Nick Kold Email: [email protected] Web: https://www.nurole.com/nurole-podcast-enter-the-boardroom

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