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  • The Ted Turner Saga | Part 5: The Superstation Serves a Nation
    This episode follows the rise of the Superstation, the backlash it triggered, and the battles that helped shape the future of television. Ted Turner takes WTCG Channel 17 from a scrappy Atlanta station to a national disruptor, beaming it across the country as America’s first Superstation. With a mix of old movies, classic TV reruns, and Braves baseball, Turner reached millions of viewers from Kansas to Hawaii and cracked the networks’ stranglehold on television—without asking permission. But building a national audience was just the beginning. Facing mounting pressure from Hollywood studios, sports leagues, syndicators, and the Big Three networks, Turner went to war—on Capitol Hill and in the court of public opinion. He positioned TBS not just as a TV station, but as a true alternative to the system itself. And as his rivals scrambled to shut him down, Turner made one thing clear: the toothpaste was already out of the tube. More From Hi Barr Follow us on ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ + ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ + ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ + ⁠⁠Linkedin⁠⁠ Sign up for our ⁠⁠newsletter⁠⁠ Email us: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠  Listen to Hi Barr’s ⁠⁠You Had To Be There⁠⁠ podcast! For business inquiries, please email: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ Credits Writing, research, and production by Web Barr. Artwork by ⁠⁠Dylan Lathrop⁠⁠. Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by ⁠⁠The Podcast Consultant⁠⁠ (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Chapters (00:00): Opening Monologue (03:01): The Superstation Launches (09:30): Ted’s Audience Data Fix (17:00): Competitor Breakdown (29:35): Superstation Schedule (37:00): Sales & Advertising Troubles (1:00:30): Cable’s Better Model (1:14:11): Ted’s Media Star Rises (1:25:30): A REAL Alternative (1:35:00): Incumbents Strike Back (1:58:00): Showdown in Congress Sources Books used in Episode 5. Get em here! ⁠⁠It Ain't As Easy As It Looks: Ted Turner's Amazing Story⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Up All Night: Ted Turner, CNN, and the Birth of 24-Hour News⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Ted Turner Speaks: Insights From the World's Greatest Maverick⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Confessions of an Advertising Man⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Lead Follow or Get Out of the Way: The Story of Ted Turner⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Media Man: Ted Turner's Improbable Empire⁠⁠  ⁠⁠Clash of the Titans: How the Unbridled Ambition of Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch Has Created Global Empires that Control What We Read & Watch Each Day⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Call Me Ted⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Cable Cowboy: John Malone and the rise of the modern cable-TV business⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Me and Ted Against the World: The Unauthorized Story of the Founding of CNN⁠⁠ ⁠Tinderbox: HBO's Ruthless Pursuit of New Frontiers⁠ ⁠Masters of Enterprise: Giants of American Business from John Jacob Astor and J.P. Morgan to Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • The Ted Turner Saga | Part 4: The Satellite Brings a Superstation
    This episode explores the boldest gamble of Ted Turner's life to date — launching his scrappy Atlanta TV station, WTCG Channel 17, into orbit via satellite and transforming it into America’s first SUPERSTATION. From Arthur C. Clarke’s 1945 prediction of satellite TV to Telstar I’s first live broadcast to HBO’s 1975 Thrilla in Manila transmission that took the tech to a new level, we land in the mid-1970s, when Turner saw what others missed: satellites weren’t just technology — they were a platform for a much bigger future. With a $1 lease and a million earth station, Ted Turner took on the networks, the government, and the laws of gravity to beam his local TV station's signal to the entire nation. More From Hi Barr Follow us on ⁠X⁠ + ⁠Instagram⁠ + ⁠YouTube⁠ + ⁠Linkedin⁠ Sign up for our ⁠newsletter⁠ Email us: ⁠[email protected]⁠  Listen to Hi Barr’s ⁠You Had To Be There⁠ podcast! For business inquiries, please email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Credits Writing, research, and production by Web Barr. Artwork by ⁠Dylan Lathrop⁠. Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by ⁠The Podcast Consultant⁠ (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Chapters (00:00): Opening Monologue (08:06): Telstar I Goes Up (13:00): First Live International Broadcast (19:00): How Satellites Work (28:31): HBO Takes the Leap (36:30): AT&T Plays Prevent D (41:10): Ted Joins the Race (1:01:11): Southern Satellite System (1:15:30): WTCG Goes National Sources Books used in Episode 4. Get em here! ⁠It Ain't As Easy As It Looks: Ted Turner's Amazing Story⁠ ⁠Up All Night: Ted Turner, CNN, and the Birth of 24-Hour News⁠ ⁠Ted Turner Speaks: Insights From the World's Greatest Maverick⁠ ⁠Confessions of an Advertising Man⁠ ⁠Lead Follow or Get Out of the Way: The Story of Ted Turner⁠ ⁠Media Man: Ted Turner's Improbable Empire⁠  ⁠Clash of the Titans: How the Unbridled Ambition of Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch Has Created Global Empires that Control What We Read & Watch Each Day⁠ ⁠Call Me Ted⁠ ⁠Cable Cowboy: John Malone and the rise of the modern cable-TV business⁠ ⁠Me and Ted Against the World: The Unauthorized Story of the Founding of CNN⁠ Tinderbox: HBO's Ruthless Pursuit of New Frontiers Masters of Enterprise: Giants of American Business from John Jacob Astor and J.P. Morgan to Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • The Ted Turner Saga | Part 3: The Atlanta Braves & The Sports TV Revolution
    Long before live sports dominated television and drove billions in media rights deals, the televised sports landscape was limited, local, and low-priority. In this episode, we explore how Ted Turner saw something no one else did: that sports weren’t just games — they were powerful, 162-game-long TV shows. And when he turned the worst team in baseball into a programming goldmine for his upstart UHF station, he didn’t just change his channel — he changed the entire business of sports. From the rise of color TV to the birth of cable, Ted Turner saw that sports could be more than entertainment — they could anchor an entire network. When he bought the Atlanta Braves, it wasn’t for wins; it was for airtime. He packed his station with baseball games, outrageous stunts, and a whole lot of personality, turning a last-place team into the South’s favorite pastime. Along the way, he redefined sports ownership, took on the league’s old guard, and helped lay the groundwork for the 24/7 sports era we live in today. This is the wild, unlikely story of how one media maverick turned a struggling team into a national phenomenon — and rewrote the rules of both television and sports in the process. More From Hi Barr Follow us on X + Instagram + YouTube + Linkedin Sign up for our newsletter Email us: [email protected]  Listen to Hi Barr’s You Had To Be There For business inquiries, please email: [email protected] Credits Writing, research, and production by Web Barr. Artwork by Dylan Lathrop. Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Chapters (00:00): Opening Monologue (06:05): Factors in the Sports TV Revolution (18:00): TV Hurts Attendance? (22:20): Technology Improves Sports (32:30): Sports Labor Issues Begin (42:30): Ted's WTCG Gets The Braves (56:45): Ted Buys the Braves (1:05:31): Day 1 as Owner (1:19:00): Ted's Home Game Atmosphere (1:36:00): Role of a Sports Commissioner (1:40:06): Free Agency Begins (1:49:00): Channel 17 Andy Messersmith (1:54:50): Hank Aaron Home Run Race (2:00:00): 1976 World Series Party (2:09:14): Ted Suspended (2:22:00): Ted Turner Manages the Braves (2:37:00): Free Agency Frenzy (2:42:00): Satellite Expansion (2:52:00): Professional Sports Sources Books used in Episode 3. Get em here! The Big Time: How the 1970s Transformed Sports in America How to Watch Basketball Like a Genius: What Game Designers, Economists, Ballet Choreographers, and Theoretical Astrophysicists Reveal About the Greatest Game on Earth The New York Times (01/04/1977) It Ain't As Easy As It Looks: Ted Turner's Amazing Story Up All Night: Ted Turner, CNN, and the Birth of 24-Hour News Ted Turner Speaks: Insights From the World's Greatest Maverick Confessions of an Advertising Man Lead Follow or Get Out of the Way: The Story of Ted Turner Media Man: Ted Turner's Improbable Empire  Clash of the Titans: How the Unbridled Ambition of Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch Has Created Global Empires that Control What We Read & Watch Each Day Call Me Ted Cable Cowboy: John Malone and the rise of the modern cable-TV business Me and Ted Against the World: The Unauthorized Story of the Founding of CNN Tube of Plenty: The Evolution of American Television Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • The Ted Turner Saga | Part 2: WTCG—Watch This Channel Grow
    How Ted Turner turned the worst TV station in Atlanta into the launchpad for his media empire. In Episode 2 of Media Moguls: The Ted Turner Saga, we dive into the chaotic early days of Ted’s first TV station—his bold move to buy a struggling UHF channel in Atlanta called WJRJ (soon renamed WTCG). It was bleeding cash, had barely any viewers, and wasn’t even available on most TVs. So how did he make sure it didn’t just survive… but thrive? We’ll also explore how cable TV started from pure necessity—built on giant towers and coaxial cable to serve towns the networks ignored. Plus, the fierce resistance cable faced from Hollywood and the Big Three networks—and how Ted zagged while everyone else zigged. With reruns, wrestling, and relentless hustle, he built a scrappy, low-budget station that put viewers first. This is the story of tenacity, vision, and entrepreneurial insanity that changed television forever. For More From Hi Barr Follow us on X + Instagram + YouTube + Linkedin Sign up for our newsletter Email us: [email protected]  Listen to Hi Barr’s You Had To Be There For business inquiries, please email: [email protected] Credits Writing, research, and production by Web Barr. Artwork by Dylan Lathrop. Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Chapters (00:00): Opening Monologue (06:31): The Origin Story of Cable (09:50): Is Cable Disruptive? (14:40): Pay TV Visions or Hallucinations? (17:25): Cable Growth Stops (21:45): Ted's TV Opportunity (25:20): Local Television Dreams (27:31): Against All Advice (29:30): UHF Nightmares (37:41): Burning Cash (44:20): Stretching Every Dollar (50:41): Counter-programming (57:00): Ted Visits Hollywood (1:00:00): No Committees (1:03:00): Programming Strategy (1:06:49): Georgia Championship Wrestling (1:09:47): NBC on WTCG (1:12:00): Netflix Before Netflix (1:14:26): TV Programming Innovations (1:17:30): News at 3AM (1:22:30): Sales (1:29:00): Working with Ted (1:33:30): Cable Dreams (1:40:00): Grand Slam Vision (1:47:30): On the Next Episode Sources Books used in Episode 2. Get em here! It Ain't As Easy As It Looks: Ted Turner's Amazing Story Up All Night: Ted Turner, CNN, and the Birth of 24-Hour News Ted Turner Speaks: Insights From the World's Greatest Maverick Confessions of an Advertising Man Lead Follow or Get Out of the Way: The Story of Ted Turner Tinderbox: HBO's Ruthless Pursuit of New Frontiers Media Man: Ted Turner's Improbable Empire  Clash of the Titans: How the Unbridled Ambition of Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch Has Created Global Empires that Control What We Read & Watch Each Day Call Me Ted Cable Cowboy: John Malone and the rise of the modern cable-TV business Me and Ted Against the World: The Unauthorized Story of the Founding of CNN Tube of Plenty: The Evolution of American Television Founder Mode (Essay) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • The Ted Turner Saga | Part 1: Signs of a Revolution
    Season 1 begins with Ted Turner, the media maverick who revolutionized cable television, news, and sports. But before Turner built his media empire, he was just a young man shaped by ambition, discipline, and tragedy—driven by a relentless need to succeed. In this debut episode, longtime media operator and host Web Barr unpacks the pivotal moments that set Ted Turner on his path—from a chaotic childhood to selling advertising for his father’s billboard company, and beyond. We also break down the broadcast TV revolution—how the birth of television changed everything, the slow rise of network news, and how a personal tragedy set Turner on his journey to transform media forever. Media empires aren’t built overnight. They’re forged through ambition, unorthodox thinking, and relentless drive. This is Media Moguls with Web Barr: The Ted Turner Saga. For More From Hi Barr Follow us on  X + Instagram + YouTube + Linkedin Sign up for our newsletter Email us: [email protected]  Listen to Hi Barr’s You Had To Be There For business inquiries, please email: [email protected] Credits Writing, research, and production by Web Barr. Artwork by Dylan Lathrop. Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Chapters (00:00): Opening Monologue (06:48): Introducing Media Moguls (08:42): Why Ted Turner (13:34): Early Childhood - Discipline, Grit, & Hard Work (25:08): The Birth of Television (29:40): TV Cities (33:05): Early Signs of TV Advertising Gold (34:30): TV Changes Movie Theaters (36:03): Early Network TV News (43:00): Hollywood Shifts (48:18): TV Changes Politics Forever (50:30): News Doubles From 15 to 30 Minutes (53:40): Ted Grows Up (1:01:30): Ted Joins Turner Advertising (1:05:00): The Deal of a Lifetime Turns Sour (1:12:05): Tragedy (1:15:13): Succession (1:17:20): His Boldest Plan Yet (1:26:00): Billboard Growth (1:31:50): Radio Dreams (1:39:30): Radio Nightmares (1:41:40): On the Next Episode Sources Books used in Episode 1. Get em here! It Ain't As Easy As It Looks: Ted Turner's Amazing Story Lead Follow or Get Out of the Way: The Story of Ted Turner Media Man: Ted Turner's Improbable Empire  Clash of the Titans: How the Unbridled Ambition of Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch Has Created Global Empires that Control What We Read & Watch Each Day Call Me Ted Up All Night: Ted Turner, CNN, and the Birth of 24-Hour News Ted Turner Speaks: Insights From the World's Greatest Maverick Cable Cowboy: John Malone and the rise of the modern cable-TV business The Powers That Be Me and Ted Against the World: The Unauthorized Story of the Founding of CNN Making News Leadership in War: Lessons from Those Who Made History Tube of Plenty: The Evolution of American Television Hit Makers: How to Succeed in an Age of Distraction Freedom's Forge: How American Business Produced Victory in World War II Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Stories Behind Media’s Biggest Moguls Behind every media empire is a story of ambition, power, and relentless vision. Hosted by longtime media operator Web Barr, Media Moguls tells the in-depth stories of the visionaries, entrepreneurs, and innovators who built and shaped the media industry—starting with Ted Turner. Each season, we’ll explore a different mogul—their wins, losses, and lasting impact—while breaking down the game-changing innovations, paradigm-shifting strategies, and pivotal moments that shaped television, Hollywood, sports, and news over the last century. Along the way, we’ll tell the story of how we got to now.
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