Pair of Kings: A Fashion and Culture Podcast

Was Dave Macklovitch right about the Hedi Boy revival? Is Hedi Slimane’s skinny-jeans-and-leather-jacket universe bigger than fashion? And what happens to musicians when AI can make the record but not the room?
Sol and Michael sit down with the podcast's favorite well-dressed unc, Dave Macklovitch of Chromeo, for his second episode and a proper apology tour after the 2025 Hedi Slimane craze proved him right. The trio explore the Hedi Boy phenomenon, Celine skinny jeans, Dior Homme codes, Saint Laurent leather jackets, indie sleaze, Grailed resellers, archive fashion, and why the looks that last are never just clothes—they come with music, photography, nightlife, diet, attitude, community, and a whole lifestyle system.
Further, Dave connects that idea to Chromeo, explaining how the band built an 80s funk world through contrast rather than costume, why charisma still matters in the age of Suno AI and AI-generated music, and how the “human avatar” may become even more important as the back end gets automated.
They also discuss Kid Cudi’s “Day ’N’ Nite,” Fool’s Gold Records, the birth of modern emo rap, Lil Peep, Yung Lean, Clams Casino, Lil Uzi Vert, Geese, DJ Sneak, Daft Punk, Radiohead, Kanye West, A$AP Rocky, and the strange grace we give artists after their best albums.
On the fashion side, they talk Aimé Leon Dore as integrated fashion, Supreme and Dior Homme coffee machines, Rick Owens lifers, Tom Ford’s symbolic universe, Haider Ackermann, Berluti cowboy boots, Soshiotsuki, Anthony Vaccarello, Demna at Gucci, Kozaburo, how to interact with Thom Browne on a budget, Balmain by Christophe Decarnin, moto denim, Saint Laurent patina, eBay archive finds, vintage Abercrombie, CDLP, DEVOA, Issey Miyake, and why brands that sell a world—not just a garment—keep winning. We hope you enjoy this one as much as we did.
Questions answered in this episode:
- Why is Hedi Slimane influential?
- What is a Hedi Boy?
- Are skinny jeans coming back?
- Why are Celine skinny jeans popular again?
- What is integrated fashion?
- Why do fashion brands sell lifestyle now?
- What makes a brand universe successful?
- How do music and fashion influence each other?
- Why do Supreme, CELINE, Dior Homme, Saint Laurent, Rick Owens, and Tom Ford create such strong cultural identities?
- How will AI music change musicians?
- Will AI replace artists?
- Why does charisma matter in live performance?
- Why was Kid Cudi’s “Day ’n’ Nite” important?
- Why is A$AP Rocky considered a fashion artist?
- What makes archive fashion valuable?
- How do Grailed, eBay, and Discogs shape taste?
- What brands are exciting right now? 
Lots of love!
Sol
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Episode Tags: Dave Macklovitch, Dave 1, Chromeo, Pair of Kings, Hedi Slimane, Hedi Boys, Celine, Dior Homme, Saint Laurent, integrated fashion, fashion podcast, menswear podcast, archive fashion, indie sleaze, AI music, Suno AI, Kid Cudi, Day N Nite, Fool’s Gold Records, A$AP Rocky, Rick Owens, Tom Ford, Haider Ackermann, Demna Gucci, Kozaburo, Soshiotsuki, Thom Browne, Balmain Decarnin, Grailed, vintage menswear
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Sol Thompson and Michael Smith explore the world and subcultures of fashion, interviewing creators, personalities, and industry insiders to highlight the new vanguard of the fashion world. Subscribe for weekly uploads of the podcast, and don’t forgot to follow us on our social channels for additional content, and join our discord to access what we’ve dubbed “the happiest place in fashion”.

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Who was Stanley DeSantis? Why is a 2004 Slipknot tee selling for $2,000? And what does a Daft Punk Roulette residency shirt have to do with how fashion brands sell you a lifestyle in 2026?
Sol Thompson and Michael Smith return from their Neuehouse live recording for Episode 3 of Pair of Kings Season 14, continuing the season's deep dive into integrated fashion — the symbiotic loop where brands, hobbies, and ephemera matter more than the clothes. This week the boys go solo on the post-COVID explosion of the vintage band tee resale market and the story of Stanley DeSantis, the late character actor turned licensing impresario whose 90s company Passing For Sane made some of the most collectible all-over print T-shirts ever: X-Files, Aeon Flux, Spawn, Wizard of Oz, Speed Racer, Beavis and Butt-Head, Gone With the Wind, Pink Panther, Independence Day. The man licensed everything.
Sol and Michael unpack why vintage T-shirts became fashion's most contested asset class: NYC's 8x vintage multiplier, why Slipknot Iowa-era merch and Daft Punk Vegas Roulette tees command four-figure resale on eBay and Whatnot, single stitch vs. double stitch hems, and the rodent-brain instinct of saving a Dub Tribe Sound System eBay search for years. They revisit the Miu Miu Literary Club through intellectual signaling (Simone de Beauvoir, Fumiko Enchi), the Aimé Leon Dore x Porsche 993 Turbo collab, defend RRL as American integrated fashion's original blueprint, and confront the imposter syndrome of wearing someone else's faded jeans.
Other topics: Hedi Slimane Dior Homme resale gatekeeping, Charlie XCX Pop 2 merch as a future grail, the $3,700 Lady Gaga Schott Perfecto, why Akira and Ghost in the Shell tees became NFTs from first principles, scenecore and metalcore history (Suicide Silence, Dance Gavin Dance, The Used, Odd Future), Graceland Ridgewood, Rick Birkenstocks, and a moment for the goat — Stanley DeSantis, 1953–2005.
Brought to you by ScentSplit. Tune in next week for a conversation on the artist as avatar.
Lots of love!
Sol
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Sol Thompson and Michael Smith explore the world and subcultures of fashion, interviewing creators, personalities, and industry insiders to highlight the new vanguard of the fashion world. Subscribe for weekly uploads of the podcast, and don’t forgot to follow us on our social channels for additional content, and join our discord to access what we’ve dubbed “the happiest place in fashion”.

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Is fashion still just about clothes? Why are cars, watches, and Formula 1 the new menswear? What does Aime Leon Dore have to do with Porsche, and why, in an age of automation, are buyers paying a premium for things that are...worse?
Sol Thompson and Michael Smith sit down with Wesley Breed, the New York-based influencer, storyteller, and car enthusiast who pivoted his fashion platform into automotive content, to unpack the rise of "integrated fashion": the symbiotic loop between brands, hobbies, and identity that's redefining men's style in 2026.
Recorded live at Neuehouse, the trio dig into how taste is built across cars, clothing, and watches, why hyper-niche content outperforms mass content on social media, and why mid-century craft is making a comeback. We continue to chat about Wesley's charity car show, how Adidas reframed Mercedes-AMG F1 with the Y-3 collection at the Miami Grand Prix, Yohji Yamamoto's soccer kits, why Nike's stock keeps tumbling while Adidas eats their lunch, Nike ACG sponsoring the F.A.T. Ice Race in Montana with Ferdi Porsche, Meyers Manx, and Tuttle, the Porsche Carrera GT hammering for $6.7M at Amelia Island, and why pre-exit Helmut Lang and Raf Simons-era Prada hold value.
We don't just cover fashion; we discuss Aime Leon Dore x Porsche collabs, Lewis Hamilton's Rick Owens and Kartik Research wardrobe, Mario Balotelli as the original unintentional style icon, the Puma Speedcat's roots in Michael Schumacher's Ferrari race boots, Why AI drives buyers towards things they can feel, and watches from Casio to Patek Philippe complications. Plus: Frank Ocean wearing Jenny Holzer at Panorama, white Ferrari t-shirts, NYU Gallatin self-designed majors, Wesley parting with his Margiela, Comme des Garcons, and Rick Owens archive for comfort, Kozaburo as the designer to watch in 2026, the Green Street SoHo car meet scene, and why loving the thing beats owning it.
Hope you enjoy as much as we did recording. Huge thanks to Neuehouse for hosting us and everyone that came!
Lots of love!
Sol
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Sol Thompson and Michael Smith explore the world and subcultures of fashion, interviewing creators, personalities, and industry insiders to highlight the new vanguard of the fashion world. Subscribe for weekly uploads of the podcast, and don’t forgot to follow us on our social channels for additional content, and join our discord to access what we’ve dubbed “the happiest place in fashion”.

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Why does every fashion brand run a coffee shop? How did a Stussy varsity jacket network from the late 1980s predict the business model of modern fashion? What does used spray paint have to do with why Miu Miu is one of the most effective brands in the world right now?
Sol Thompson and Michael Smith open Season 14 of the Pair of Kings Podcast with a level set: the history of integrated fashion—the idea that buying clothes has always really been about buying into a lifestyle, a cult of personality, and an identity. Starting in 2014 at the height of Tumblr's image-first culture and tracing the full arc through Supreme drop culture, the grail sneaker peak, the outfit grid, the crash of sneaker resale, the rise of archive fashion, and the TikTok lifestyle-as-content revolution, they map how men's relationship with fashion fundamentally changed.
They cover the Stüssy Tribe as fashion's original brand ambassador model—featuring Hiroshi Fujiwara, Michael Kopelman, and a pre-Supreme James Jebbia—the Supreme x LV collab as the undisputed peak of drop culture, Kith Treats and Cafe Leon Dore as the architects of the fashion third space, and the Miu Miu Literary Club as the most transparent example of what fashion brands are actually selling. We also touch on Demna's debut Gucci collection and his philosophy as a fashion anthropologist, the Hedi Slimane Saint Laurent Hedi boy cult of personality, the runway appearances of looksmaxxing and body dysmorphia, Vivienne Westwood and punk as integrated fashion's original historical anchor, the CBK/JFK aesthetic overtaking downtown New York, and what it means when even finance bros start buying Celine suits on purpose.
Michael's fit: Wabash denim from Sugar Cane, Flat Head houndstooth flannel.
Sol's fit: a Daft Punk Musique Vol. 1 CD release tee and a North Face layer.
We hope you enjoy it as much as we did making it.
Lots of love,
Sol
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Sol Thompson and Michael Smith explore the world and subcultures of fashion, interviewing creators, personalities, and industry insiders to highlight the new vanguard of the fashion world. Subscribe for weekly uploads of the podcast, and don’t forgot to follow us on our social channels for additional content, and join our discord to access what we’ve dubbed “the happiest place in fashion”.

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Why are men's style guides just glorified affiliate link shopping lists? What should a real style guide for men actually teach you? And how do you build a wardrobe you love without spending a fortune?
On the Season 13 finale, Sol and Michael tear apart the modern men's style guide — from GQ and Esquire to The Rake — and expose why today's fashion advice is failing young men. We do what none of those guides bother to do: share real, practical styling tips that will actually make you dress better, starting today. No affiliate links. No product lists. No bullshit.
The duo covers how to find a good tailor (and why a $100 vintage suit tailored for $600 beats a $1,000 suit off the rack), why you need to wear your clothes and break them in instead of babysitting them for resale value, how to stop treating clothing as an investment piece, the right way to wash and care for your garments, why trying clothes on in person matters more than ever, how to build your personal style by copying first and evolving over time, and why patience and eBay alerts will get you everything you want for a fraction of retail.
They also rant about "end game" brand gatekeeping, Our Legacy, why influencer fashion has broken people's brains, Raf Simons resale culture as a Ponzi scheme, and the forgotten art of just wearing a beat-up Oxford shirt to work every day like a Thom Browne employee. Plus: fit checks featuring a 1971 US military fishtail parka with original blanket liner, Rick Owens drawstring pants and Uggs, a FedEx customs horror story, Joe Pesci's golf fits, the season wrap-up, and a $250 giveaway.
We hope you enjoy this one as much as we loved making it. Season 14 returns in four weeks.
Lots of love!
Sol
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Sol Thompson and Michael Smith explore the world and subcultures of fashion, interviewing creators, personalities, and industry insiders to highlight the new vanguard of the fashion world. Subscribe for weekly uploads of the podcast, and don’t forgot to follow us on our social channels for additional content, and join our discord to access what we’ve dubbed “the happiest place in fashion”.

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