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Selling In The Motor Trade

Simon Bowkett
Selling In The Motor Trade
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    Graeme Potts of Eden Automotive on Numbers, Culture and 40 Years in Motor Retail Graeme Potts of Eden Automotive on Numbers, Culture and 40 Years in Motor Retail Graeme Potts of Eden Automotive on Numbers, Culture and 40 Years in Motor Retail

    28/05/2026 | 30 mins.
    Graeme Potts has run motor retail at every level worth running. He joined Sir Peter Vardy in 1983 when Reg Vardy was three dealerships, and was still there when it had grown to 85 and was turning over 900 million pounds. He then led the RAC turnaround with 10,000 people and a 765 million pound price tag, ran 1.6 billion of turnover at Inchcape, and then walked away from all of it to start Eden Automotive with five dealerships in 2008. In this episode, he talks through what he learned at each stage and what still holds true in 2026.
    What's covered:
    • Why knowing your numbers separates good operators from great ones, and what that looks like at the sales consultant level 
    • What Sir Peter Vardy built at Reg Vardy and the attitude that drove the growth 
    • Why there is always business to be done, regardless of weather, economics or what is on television 
    • How Eden bans the phrases time-wasters and tyre-kickers, and why that matters 
    • The infrastructure shock of leaving a PLC and building a dealership group from scratch 
    • Whether standalone dealerships can realistically stack up in 2026 
    • Why culture is the hardest thing to change in any acquisition, and the most important 
    • What changes in how people respond when you become the owner rather than the executive
    About Symco Training:
    Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal.
    Graeme Potts is CEO of Eden Automotive Investments, a group he co-founded after senior roles at Reg Vardy, the RAC and Inchcape. He has spent more than four decades in motor retail, across every scale from a three-site family business to a multinational PLC. His perspective covers both the corporate and the independent sides of the trade, and he has the track record to back it.
    If you are a dealer principal, general manager or anyone building or running a dealership group, this one is worth blocking out proper time for.
    To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk
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    Why 'How Are You Funding the Car?' Is the Wrong Question

    21/05/2026 | 25 mins.
    Customers say cash for a reason. It is not usually because they are cash buyers. It is because they have been conditioned from the day, they first paid a plumber to believe that saying cash gets them a better deal. In this episode, Simon breaks down exactly why your team keeps hearing that answer in 2026, the assumptions that kill finance deals before they even get started, and the specific questions and phrases that open customers up instead of closing them down.
    What's covered:
    • Why customers say 'cash' and the psychology driving it 
    • Why asking 'how are you funding the car?' is the wrong question for your sales team to use 
    • Assumptive payment questions that presuppose finance and get better answers 
    • How to use inflation framing to anchor monthly payment expectations before presenting a deal 
    • Why salespeople believe your dealership is expensive on finance rates, and how to fix that belief 
    • Neil Carrahar's approach to the cash objection: working with the grain, not against it 
    • The 'savings or external lender' technique that strokes ego without starting an argument 
    • What information to gather early so your business manager can stack the deal properly
    About Symco Training:
    Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal.
    To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk
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    The One Question That Sells GAP at Pickup, Every Time

    14/05/2026 | 5 mins.
    Most salespeople ask about GAP insurance once, get a no, and move on. This episode is about what happens when you go back. Simon runs through a single sweep-up technique, one cheeky question asked at the point of collection, that consistently turns previous rejections into policies sold. The logic is simple: by the time the customer arrives to collect their car, the mental pain of the purchase price has already passed. When you frame a GAP premium against what they already pay for comprehensive cover, the numbers do the work for you. This is a short, direct episode aimed at business managers and salespeople who are still selling GAP and want something practical they can use today.
    What's covered:
    • The cheeky question opener that gets permission to probe on price without putting the customer on guard
    • How to use the customer's own insurance premium as the comparison point for GAP cost
    • Annual and monthly framing options for cash buyers and finance customers
    • Why collection day is the right psychological moment to revisit GAP with someone who previously said no
    • A clean response to the I am a safe driver objection
    • Why business managers should personally introduce themselves to cash customers at pickup
    • How the sweep up works alongside earlier GAP presentations rather than replacing them
    • Why customers who dismissed GAP before are genuinely more open once they are collecting their car
    If you are a business manager or sales manager who wants one more GAP sale this week, this episode is worth ten minutes of your time.
    About Symco Training:
    Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal.
    To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk
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    The One Thing in Your Dealership AI Will Never Replace

    07/05/2026 | 31 mins.
    AI is not magic. It is not going to replace your sales team. And it is almost certainly not going to save a broken process. What it will do, if you use it properly, is give your people time back, cover your leads after hours, and flag the problems your managers are too busy to catch. Will Benedicks and Brent Wees have been doing this at dealership level, not in a conference presentation, in real stores with real results. This is what that looks like.
    What's covered:
    • The single most important thing to do before buying any AI tool 
    • RIPE: the prompting framework that makes AI output actually usable 
    • Why uploading customer data into a personal ChatGPT account is a data protection problem waiting to happen 
    • How after-hours AI lead response generated an extra four and a half car sales per month from 1.7 percent uplift 
    • The catfishing trap: why your AI-powered website can make your showroom look incompetent by comparison 
    • How one dealer built an overnight AI agent to audit ROs, catch discount patterns and brief the team before they hit  
       the floor 
    • Why people who cannot use AI will be replaced by people who can, even if AI itself does not take the job 
    • What AI will never replicate in a dealership: the relationship that closes a sixty-thousand-pound car
    Will Benedicks runs a dealership group that has put AI to work across the customer journey, from lead response to showroom handoffs. Brent Wees consults with dealer groups on AI implementation and publishes a no-hype weekly newsletter on what the platforms have actually added and how automotive teams can use it. Both know what these tools look like when they work and when they do not.
    If you are still waiting for the right moment to get serious about AI in your dealership, this episode will tell you where to start and, more usefully, what not to waste your time on.
    About Symco Training:
    Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal.
    To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk
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    Your AI Prompts Are Lazy. Here Is How to Fix That

    30/04/2026 | 44 mins.
    Most dealers are using AI like a glorified Google search. Type something in, get something back, move on. That is not wrong exactly, but it is leaving a lot on the table. Brent Wees and Will Benedicks have a sharper way of thinking about it. Knowledge is now scalable through AI. An agent scales the execution of that knowledge. Most people are only using the first half. In this episode, they walk through the RIPE framework for writing prompts that actually do what you need them to do, explain what separates a basic prompt from a working AI agent, and describe how they got eight countries worth of dealers to build a vendor evaluation agent live at NADA in under 35 minutes.
    There are quick wins in here for sales, service and marketing. The kind you can actually go back and use today.
    What's covered:
    • The difference between using AI for an answer and building an agent that automates the execution 
    • RIPE framework in full: Role, Instructions, Parameters and Exceptions, with real dealership examples 
    • The NADA hackathon: how a vendor evaluation agent was built live with dealers in 32 minutes 
    • Why lazy prompts waste time and how to brief AI the same way you would brief a new sales consultant 
    • Sales quick win: washing customer communications through AI to turn a six out of ten into an eight 
    • Service quick win: using AI to translate fault codes and technical findings into plain customer language 
    • Marketing quick win: using AI to plan quarters ahead instead of waiting to be told what to put in market 
    • How to prompt for the prompt, and why this is the fastest way to build your AI literacy
    Brent Wees is a certified AI trainer with 25 years in automotive marketing, including agency work with Toyota and Lexus. He builds hands-on AI hackathons at dealer conferences specifically because he knows that dealers learn by doing, not by watching slide decks. Will Benedicks is Operations Director at Proctor dealerships, with a career that started on the showroom floor and spans sales, finance, compliance and multi-site operations. He is also the kind of person who puts his hand up in a room full of senior operators and asks the question everyone else was too embarrassed to ask.
    If you have ever typed a lazy prompt and wondered why AI is not delivering for your business, Brent and Will fix that in this episode.
    About Symco Training:
    Symco Training was founded in 2000 by Simon Bowkett and it was his belief that the business had to offer its clients something different. That difference was clear to Simon from his days in the dealership when he experienced many sales trainers who had all the answers, but were unable, unwilling or both to actually show the delegate how they could be implemented. It remains the ethos of the business today. You see, Symco only employ trainers that are committed to delivering not only in spiring and insightful training, but are equally as happy to demonstrate these skills and techniques with real customers in your own showroom. We believe in order for sales training to be effective and in Simon's words 'real world', it needs to be tried and tested in the only place it matters the showroom floor. There is no room for theory when your goals are for your team to sell more cars, hours or parts and retain more profit. In dealerships around the world the focus applied by many of the sales executives is to try and sell a deal. Symco specialise in getting your teams to focus on selling themselves, the product and then supporting this with the deal.
    To find out more visit: www.symcotraining.co.uk
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About Selling In The Motor Trade
Simon Bowkett, from Symco Training, shares tips and ideas on selling in the motor trade from a sales and aftersales perspective, as well as interviews with industry leaders sharing some of their best practices. To find out more visit www.symcotraining.co.uk
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