The AI Tool That Works Like 40 Employees (Saved 2000 Hours)
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Episode 72: What if building an AI agent was as easy as texting a friend? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) sits down with repeat guest Flo Crivello (https://x.com/Altimor), founder and CEO of Lindy—the AI agent platform taking Silicon Valley by storm.
Flo shares the debut of Lindy 3.0, a major revamp aimed at maximum ease-of-use and capability—aiming for nothing less than a full “AI employee.” This episode dives into real-world demos where Lindy automates CRM management, prospecting, content creation, QA testing, grocery shopping, spam blocking, and even competitor research—all with natural language prompts and no technical skills needed. Flo explains the vision for an infinite army of AI “interns,” transformative workflow upgrades, and why he believes we’re just scratching the surface of the coming AI wave.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) AI Agents: Effortless Workplace Revolution
(03:53) Quick COD App Demo Insight
(06:31) Automated Lindy QA Demo
(11:35) AI Agents for Competitor Analysis
(13:30) Automated Content Strategy System
(17:58) Understanding New Life in AI
(19:33) Optimism for Tech Advancement
(22:25) Future of Code: Free Production Debate
(27:45) AI Transformation Leadership
(28:49) QuickBooks Invoice Processing Struggles
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Mentions:
Flo Crivello: http://linkedin.com/in/florentcrivello/
Lindy: https://www.lindy.ai/
Lovable: https://lovable.dev/
Zapier: https://zapier.com/
QuickBooks: https://quickbooks.intuit.com/
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• Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
• Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
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Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/
Blog - https://lore.com/
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Why Figma Make Might Be the Most Important AI Tool of 2025
Want better results from AI tools? Get the Advanced Prompt Engineering guide: https://clickhubspot.com/mgv
Episode 71: What if you could turn your Figma designs into fully functioning apps—just by asking? Host Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) is joined by David Kossnick (https://x.com/DKossnick), a key leader at Figma working on the cutting edge of AI-powered design tools.
David is part of the team behind Figma Make, Figma's groundbreaking new tool that takes your sketches, mockups, or even simple prompts and instantly transforms them into interactive, code-backed applications. In this episode, David demonstrates how Figma Make builds real apps—like dashboards, games, and data-powered prototypes—right before your eyes. The discussion goes deep into Figma’s AI journey: from their first AI-powered features to the vision for democratizing software creation in a truly collaborative, multiplayer environment. Whether you’re a designer, entrepreneur, or just someone with big ideas, this episode is a glimpse into the AI-native future of how products will be built.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) Multiplayer Code-Generating Dashboard Tool
(04:29) Collaborative Project Creation with Supabase
(09:29) Prompt Management Overview
(10:46) Emerging Interactive Design Space
(14:57) Designing with AI: Complement, Not Replace
(18:24) Figma: A Collaborative Design Hub
(22:42) Empowering Designers with New Superpowers
(25:35) Future of Design and Innovation
(28:37) AI's Impact on Future Society
(29:48) AI's Future in Healthcare
(33:19) Figma AI's Exciting Future
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Mentions:
David Kossnick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidkossnick
Figma: https://www.figma.com/
Figma Make: https://www.figma.com/make/
Supabase: https://supabase.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Waymo: https://waymo.com/
Duolingo: https://www.duolingo.com/
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• Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
• Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
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Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/
Blog - https://lore.com/
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Everyone’s Using AI Wrong — Here’s the Real Opportunity
Want Nicholas' 3-step AI framework for businesses? get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/pge
Episode 70: Is AI just a productivity booster, or are we missing the real transformation right in front of us? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) is joined by Nicholas Holland (https://x.com/nicholasholland), SVP of Product & Head of AI at HubSpot, who’s spent nearly a decade driving innovation and building applied AI solutions in real-world business settings.
In this episode, Matt and Nicholas dive deep into the seismic shift happening in AI: from simple assistants that help with your emails, to autonomous agents that actually do meaningful work for you—what Nicholas calls "work as a service." You’ll discover how forward-thinking teams are structuring their meeting data to unlock hidden value, why a new class of “super contributor” is emerging in sales and marketing, and how to use Nicholas’s practical four-step AI adoption framework to turn overwhelm into a competitive advantage. Whether you want to future-proof your business or become an “agent manager” in the coming wave, this conversation is full of actionable insights for teams, leaders, and entrepreneurs.
Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd
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Show Notes:
(00:00) AI's Impact on Work Dynamics
(06:22) Shift from SaaS to WaaS
(09:09) Streamlined Agent Deployment
(11:38) Human-Centric Customer Experience Challenges
(14:35) Defining Agency in AI Tools
(19:35) AI Executive Assistant Development
(23:01) Streamlined Customer Interaction Automation
(26:01) Streamlining Customer Support Solutions
(28:25) Navigating AI Communication Threads
(29:41) Outsourcing Memory with Technology
(35:24) Token Count Excitement
(36:10) Crafting Effective Ad Integration Techniques
(41:37) Revamped Breeze: Multi-LLM Integration
(43:35) Rise of Agent Managers
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Mentions:
Nicholas Holland: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nashvilleholland/
HubSpot: https://www.hubspot.com/
HubSpot Breeze: https://www.hubspot.com/products/artificial-intelligence
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Granola: https://www.granola.ai/
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• Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
• Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
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Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/
Blog - https://lore.com/
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This Free Tool Turns AI Prompts Into Designer-Level Sites
Want better outputs from AI? Get our free Prompt Engineering guide: https://clickhubspot.com/cnj
Episode 69: Why do so many AI-generated websites end up looking generic—and how can you use “vibe coding” to stand out with truly designer-level style? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) sits down with design legend Meng To (https://x.com/MengTo), founder of Design+Code and creator of innovative tools like Aura, to deliver a practical masterclass on prompting AI for web design that’s not just beautiful, but memorable and conversion-friendly.
In this episode, Meng shares his approach to breaking free from generic, templated looks by leveraging a precise design vocabulary, including layouts, color theory, typography, animations, and unique assets. Learn how to use free resources and smart prompting techniques to turn basic AI outputs into custom-crafted sites that reflect your taste and business needs. If you care about making your site stand out in the age of AI tools like Lovable, V0, and Aura, don’t miss this hands-on walkthrough!
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Show Notes:
(00:00) Improving AI Design with Aura
(05:32) Single-File HTML/CSS Design Simplicity
(07:27) Defining "Beautiful Site" Concepts
(10:19) Modern Skeuomorphism and Typography Trends
(15:22) Master AI Prompt Engineering
(16:16) Website Design: The Hero Component
(20:13) AI-Generated Dynamic Color Schemes
(22:51) Personalized AI: Create Your Solution
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Mentions:
Meng To: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mengto/
Design+Code: https://designcode.io/
Aura: https://aura.build/
Spline: https://spline.design/
Unicorn Studio: https://unicorn.studio/
Lovable: https://lovable.so/
V0: https://v0.dev/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.so/
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• Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
• Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
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Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/
Blog - https://lore.com/
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Inside Google's AI Lab: Drug Discovery, World AI Model & AlphaEvolve
Want the ultimate guide to Google's Gemini? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/evt
Episode 68: How is Google DeepMind pushing the boundaries of AI to tackle drug discovery, robotics, and even autonomous AI agents? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) sits down with DeepMind CEO Sir Demis Hassabis (https://x.com/demishassabis), a neuroscientist, AI pioneer, Nobel laureate, and knight, to peel back the curtain on Google’s latest advances—and the ethical challenges that come with them.
In this episode, Matt and Demis go deep on what’s powering the newest generation of AI agents, how models like AlphaFold and AlphaEvolve are accelerating scientific breakthroughs, and why world models are so important for the future of robotics. Demis shares why he believes AI is poised to reshape society—for better and for worse—and what Google is doing to build public trust in its systems.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) AI Revolutionizing Drug Discovery
(03:35) Advanced Model Training Methods
(07:06) Accelerating Drug Discovery with AI
(11:12) AI's Responsible Role in Society
(13:56) AI Revolutionizing Science & Life
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Mentions:
Sir Demis Hassabis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/demishassabis/
Google DeepMind: https://deepmind.google/
AlphaFold: https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/
AlphaEvolve: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/alphaevolve-a-gemini-powered-coding-agent-for-designing-advanced-algorithms/
Isomorphic Labs: https://www.isomorphiclabs.com/
Android XR glasses: http://blog.google/products/android/android-xr-gemini-glasses-headsets/
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• Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
• Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
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Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/
Blog - https://lore.com/
The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano
About The Next Wave - AI and The Future of Technology
The Next Wave is your personal Chief AI Officer, bringing fresh takes, industry insights and a trustworthy perspective on how to implement AI to grow your business.
Join Matt Wolfe and Nathan Lands, as they democratize the expertise often reserved for the boardrooms of the biggest corporations. From groundbreaking technologies to practical applications, Matt and Nathan will cover everything you need to stay informed and prepared. Whether you're seeking to adapt your company to the AI era or simply curious about the future, this podcast will equip you with the knowledge to thrive in the forthcoming wave of change.