The Yin and Yang of SEO: being human in an AI-driven world - with Kerstin Reichert
Kerstin Reichert discusses the importance of the Yin and Yang of SEO - being human in an AI-driven world.Talking points include:How do you stay human in an AI-driven world?What do you mean by an AI-driven world?You recommend using AI to quickly scale - what does that look like?How do you use AI to enhance processes?How do you use AI to produce better insights?How do you use AI to remain competitive?How do you continue to show your human side, authenticity and expertise - and what good does this do?
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AI is an influencer, PR is vital, and CRO is going to be more integrated into SEO - Bruce Clay
Bruce Clay shares that SEO will be more important in the future: AI is an influencer, PR is vital, and conversion rate optimization going to be more integrated into the SEO effort.Discussion points include:Is SEO more important than it used to be?What do you mean when you say that AI is an influencer?When you say that PR is vital, how does PR fit into the SEO world and what aspects of PR are key for SEO?What does conversion rate optimization have to do with SEO?How do you measure the impact of conversion rate optimization on SEO?How do you plan an SEO strategy with so many considerations in mind?What will SEO look like in a year's time?
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Expertise combined with opinions of people is what matter - with Gagan Ghotra
Gagan Ghotra shares that expertise combined with opinions of people is what matter.Discussion points include:How do you demonstrate expertise in content?Why are opinions of people important?How do you incorporate opinions in content?How do you measure the success of this strategy in search engines?How should this be incorporated into a content strategy?How do you measure the success of this strategy?How is AI impacting this strategy?
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Focus on Relevancy, with Less Outreach, Fewer Links, and Less Content - with Vince Nero
Vince Nero advises focusing on relevancy in 2025, meaning less outreach, fewer links, and less Content.Discussion points include:Why is less more?What do you mean by focusing on relevancy?Why less outreach?Why fewer links?Why less content?What does this mean for strategy?How do you track success?How do you persuade senior managers that less is more?
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There are proven ways to smartly rank better in the AI models - with Jon Mest
Jon Mest shares that there are proven ways to smartly rank better in the AI models.Talking points include:What does ranking better in AI models actually mean in practice?What measurable impact does this have?How do you measure leads from AI models?Is ChatGPT the best source of leads?How do you SEO for AI models?How is the space continuing to evolve?Read the full transcript of Jon's interview at: https://majestic.com/seo-in-2025/additional-insights/jon-mest
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