That Implementation Science Podcast

In this episode, Kevin and Mike interview Eric Bruns and discuss policy challenges, highlight a few examples of policy work he has done with Wraparound care, discuss some reasons why policy may not receive adequate attention in implementation science, and Eric took our quiz on some of his favorite musicians. 

Discussed on this episode:

Arean and Pullmann, High Quality Psychosocial Interventions Research: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/high-quality-psychosocial-interventions-research-9780197681923?cc=us&lang=en&

Walker, S.C., Gubner, N., Iztguttinov, A. et al. The implementation potential of a method to monitor empirically-supported children’s mental health treatment through claims data. BMC Health Serv Res 21, 1349 (2021). https://doi.org/10.1186/s12913-021-07317-z

Purtle, J., Peters, R. & Brownson, R.C. A review of policy dissemination and implementation research funded by the National Institutes of Health, 2007–2014. Implementation Sci 11, 1 (2015). https://doi.org/10.1186/s13012-015-0367-1

Efficacy of modular cognitive behavior therapy for childhood anxiety disorders, Bruce F. Chorpita

Daleiden EL, Chorpita BF, Donkervoet C, Arensdorf AM, Brogan M. Getting better at getting them better: health outcomes and evidence-based practice within a system of care. J Am Acad Child Adolesc Psychiatry. 2006 Jun;45(6):749-56. doi: 10.1097/01.chi.0000215154.07142.63. PMID: 16721326.

In which we interview Rani Elwy about her work at the intersection of implementation science and policy as she served as a Robert Wood Johnson health policy fellow in the US Senate focusing on menopause care. We discuss menopause policy, stigma, implementation and deimplementation challenges for menopause care, and what it was like to work as a policy fellow for Senator Patty Murray.

Discussed on today's show: 

Bauer MS, Kirchner J. Implementation science: What is it and why should I care? Psychiatry Res. 2020 Jan;283:112376. doi: 10.1016/j.psychres.2019.04.025. Epub 2019 Apr 23. PMID: 31036287.

Lane-Fall MB, Curran GM, Beidas RS. Scoping implementation science for the beginner: locating yourself on the "subway line" of translational research. BMC Med Res Methodol. 2019 Jun 28;19(1):133. doi: 10.1186/s12874-019-0783-z. PMID: 31253099; PMCID: PMC6599376.

We interview Katherine Rizzolo about her work with Lilia Cervantes on implementing policies to provide dialysis care in the undocumented immigrant population. We talk about how the experience of undocumented immigrants differs from those with citizenship without insurance, tools she used from implementation science in this work, the path to policy change in Colorado, and the role of implementation science in policy change. Ah, implementation science: making common sense and decency incredibly rigorous.

Mentioned on today's show:

Cervantes L, Rizzolo K, Tummalapalli SL, Wainstein M, Glasgow RE, Jolles MP. Use of a Context- and Equity-Focused Implementation Science Framework to Aid the Design of Clinical Trials. J Am Soc Nephrol. 2025 Jun 1;36(6):1197-1200. doi: 10.1681/ASN.0000000633. Epub 2025 Jan 17. PMID: 39823190; PMCID: PMC12147963.

Cervantes L. Dialysis in the Undocumented: Driving Policy Change with Data. J Hosp Med. 2020 Aug;15(8):502-504. doi: 10.12788/jhm.3319. PMID: 31891561; PMCID: PMC7518140.

Nilsen, P. Making sense of implementation theories, models and frameworks. Implementation Sci 10, 53 (2015). https://doi.org/10.1186/s13012-015-0242-0

Proctor EK, Powell BJ, Baumann AA, Hamilton AM, Santens RL. Writing implementation research grant proposals: ten key ingredients. Implement Sci. 2012 Oct 12;7:96. doi: 10.1186/1748-5908-7-96. PMID: 23062065; PMCID: PMC3541090.

Rizzolo K, Ressalam J, Robledo K, et al. Participant Experiences in a Kidney Failure Care Intervention in the Navigate-Kidney Study. JAMA Netw Open. 2025;8(11):e2548506. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2025.48506

We interview Leopoldo Cabassa and Dani Adams about implementation sciences' role in Psychedelic Assisted Therapy. We talk about the evidence for psychedelic assisted therapy, its implementation barriers and facilitators, the role of implementation science in moving psychedelic assited therapy from the clinic to the field, and we'll get them started on some excellent rants about implementation science. Discussed during the show:

Trickett, E. J. (2011). From “water boiling in a Peruvian town” to “letting them die”: Culture, community intervention, and the metabolic balance between patience and zeal. American Journal of Community Psychology, 47, 58-68.

Raghavan, R., Bright, C. L., & Shadoin, A. L. (2008). Toward a policy ecology of implementation of evidence-based practices in public mental health settings. Implementation Science, 3, 1-9.

Palinkas, L. A., Allred, C. A., & Landsverk, J. A. (2005). Models of research-operational collaboration for behavioral health in space. Aviation, space, and environmental medicine, 76(6), B52-B60.

https://socialwork.columbia.edu/directory/heidi-l-allen

https://sites.wustl.edu/centerforpsychedelics/

@daniadams

We talk with Sara Landes about how she became interested in implementation science, her work in the Department of Veterans Affairs, hybrid trials, and her fond memories of a special rental car company. Then we get Sara started on a rant about hybrid trial reviews.

The views expressed by Dr. Landes in this podcast are those of Dr. Landes and do not reflect the position or policy of the Department of Veterans Affairs or the United States Government.

Bauer, M. S., & Kirchner, J. (2020). Implementation science: What is it and why should I care?. Psychiatry research, 283, 112376. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.psychres.2019.04.025