Horses (Part 3) The Pawnee, the Plains, and the Spanish Caribbean with Dr. Carlton Shield Chief Gover - Ep 26
In this third installment of the “Horse Series,” David sits down with Dr. Carlton Shield Chief Gover to explore the intersections of Indigenous oral traditions, radiocarbon dating, and the archaeology of horses across the Great Plains and the Caribbean.Carlton shares how Pawnee oral traditions align with archaeological evidence, revealing new insights into the transitions from hunter-gatherer to agricultural societies. The conversation expands into how the reintroduction of horses revolutionized Plains warfare, movement, and culture — transforming not just how people traveled, but how they defined bravery, honor, and trade.The episode then dives underwater — literally — as Carlton recounts his work with the Indiana University Underwater Science Program in the Dominican Republic. From Spanish shipwrecks to 400-year-old hazelnuts used to fight scurvy, the discussion highlights how horses, colonization, and trade converged across continents and oceans.Topics CoveredIntroduction to Carlton Shield Chief Gover’s background and Pawnee heritageMerging radiocarbon dating with Indigenous oral historiesThe importance of corn, maize agriculture, and Plains village lifeHow the horse transformed Indigenous cultures and warfareThe practice of “counting coup” and individual honor in combatThe spread of horses before European contactCarlton’s archaeological work in Ukraine and comparisons to the Great PlainsUnderwater archaeology in the Dominican RepublicSpanish shipwrecks, horseshoes, and gold-gilded stirrupsHazelnuts as a 16th-century Spanish cure for scurvyDangers and logistics of underwater fieldworkHow early Caribbean horses may connect genetically to modern mustangsThe future of Plains and underwater archaeologyAbout the GuestDr. Carlton Shield Chief Gover is a citizen of the Pawnee Nation and a leading voice in Indigenous and Plains archaeology. His research integrates oral histories, Bayesian radiocarbon analysis, and archaeological evidence to create a fuller understanding of the Great Plains’ deep past. He currently serves as Assistant Professor and Curator of Archaeology at the University of Kansas and hosts The Great Plains Archaeology Podcast.Follow Carlton on InstagramListen to The Great Plains Archaeology PodcastMentioned in This EpisodeHoof Beats: The Horse in Human History — Dr. William TaylorCassidy Thornhill’s work on the Blacks Fork HorseYvette and Paulette Steeves’ research on pre-contact horsesIndiana University Underwater Science Program (Dr. Charles Beeker)University of Kansas Natural History MuseumKey Quote“When you reanalyze radiocarbon data with Indigenous oral traditions, you actually illustrate a much more holistic picture of human history.” — Dr. Carlton Shield Chief GoverTranscriptsFor a rough transcript head over to: https://www.archaeologypodcastnetwork.com/ethnocynology/26Links:davidianhowe.comDavidianhowe.com/storeArchPodNetAPN Website: https://www.archpodnet.comAPN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/archpodnetAPN on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/archpodnetAPN on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/archpodnetAPN ShopAffiliatesMotion Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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