The PERE Podcast

Consolidation comes for every facet of the real estate landscape at some point, or so the most scaled participants and their acquisition targets often say. 

But in today’s market, specialized managers and their business partners are looking for more than just assets under management when evaluating inorganic growth opportunities. In the case of Chatham Financial's acquisition of Hodes Weill & Associates, broken exclusively last week by PERE, the value of connectivity was on full display. 

In this episode, David Hodes, co-managing partner and founder of the business named in his and Douglas Weill's sake, joins the discussion to unpack where the team sees opportunities moving forward, especially as repeat relations and data capabilities play more outsized roles in a perceivably tougher capital-raising environment. 

The blending of Chatham and Hodes Weill ultimately creates an all-weather outfit which will see real estate debt and equity lines merged into a larger combined force, a resounding theme playing out among fund managers in today’s market too. And with allocators wanting more concentrated partner rosters, such a combination is expected to make a smoother roadway for capital relations ahead.

The real estate investment management market is coming to terms with its latest hurdle this week. The cost of debt has been on the rise for some time, as select managers have told affiliated PERE titles. And in today’s market, the cost of doing business may now be outweighing borrowers’ ability to keep pace and hold their investment strategies steady heading into this market cycle.

Though the impact to date has been moderate, as highlighted earlier this week in analysis shared by PERE, central banks are moving toward more defensive positions. The possibility of rate cuts has diminished as a result, as noted in a March episode of The PERE Podcast.

All this sets the table for how borrowers will need to reshape their own tack to keep lines open with debt capital markets while they have liquidity to keep capital moving.

In this episode, PGIM’s head of real estate credit strategies Bryan McDonnell provides his perspective on the situation at hand. Be it at the Newark-based manager or beyond, real estate fund managers and investors are having to recalculate their basis and re-order how they navigate the next wave of acquisitions, holds and exits arriving in their pipelines.

This episode is sponsored by Arrow Global

European hospitality markets have thrived in the post-pandemic period, supported by a surge in international visitor numbers. And the warmer climate of Southern Europe makes countries like Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece enduringly popular with holidaymakers.

Investment capital has flowed in, driving rapid institutionalization of a market formerly characterized by family-run hotels. Southern European hospitality markets offer a range of entry points for investors across the capital stack, from equity to senior credit, and the opportunity to make attractive income-driven returns. However, increased competition means bargains have become hard to find.

In this special episode of The PERE Podcast, John Calvao, co-founder and head of real estate and hospitality at Arrow Global, offers insights on how to navigate the challenges of a market where execution risk is considerable and customers are demanding ever-increasing levels of service.

He argues that local expertise and on-the-ground delivery capability are crucial to managing costs and ensuring that capex is spent where it generates the greatest impact on returns. Calvao also explains the importance of controlling resort “ecosystems” so that hotels, amenities and attractions like golf courses combine to generate year-round activity and maximize revenue.

In this episode, the team looks at the preliminary findings of PERE's Q1 2026 fundraising report. Listen as host Lucy Scott discusses the trends behind these numbers with PERE senior reporter Christie Ou, Real Estate Capital Europe editor Daniel Cunningham, and PEI research manager Kristina Savcenkova, who worked on the data.

Among the headline themes is that fundraising is down, with managers raising just under $44 billion globally in Q1 2026, down from $81.4 billion a year earlier. While the drop partly reflects the absence of the mega-fundraisings seen in early 2025, it also points to a more selective market.

Another key shift this quarter was the resurgence of value‑add strategies, which accounted for more than half of all capital raised. Debt strategies also remain in favor.

However, despite subdued volumes, there were encouraging signs beneath the headline numbers. Funds are closing faster, and a growing proportion are meeting or exceeding their target sizes – suggesting that the market is finding its footing, even amid ongoing macro uncertainty.

In this episode, we explore a trend reshaping the relationship between public and private real estate markets: listed REITs stepping confidently into private capital fundraising.  

While many first-time private managers continue to face an uphill battle in securing commitments, a different cohort is gaining meaningful traction. Last week, data center specialist Digital Realty raised $3.25 billion for its debut private fund, targeting hyperscale development in the US. The fundraising effort ranks alongside the top five private real estate funds closed so far this year.  

Meanwhile, sale-leaseback specialist REIT Realty Income is accelerating its own private market push. In just a few months, the REIT has launched two major private joint ventures, most recently with Apollo Global Management. In March, Apollo said it will deploy $1 billion for a 49 percent stake in the newly formed JV with Realty Income. Earlier this year, the REIT formed a US logistics venture with Singapore sovereign wealth fund GIC for a total capitalization of $1.5 billion.  

In this episode, Realty Income’s president and CEO Sumit Roy joins Jonathan Brasse, PEI’s editor-in-chief, real estate, to unpack how scale, performance, track record, sector specialization and meaningful co-investment are in line with investor demands. Roy also reveals how the firm plans to double, or even triple, its private partnerships by this time next year. 

The discussion points to a shift that the market is increasingly seeing unfold: more specialist listed REITs are becoming suitably positioned to follow in the footsteps of firms like Realty Income and Digital Realty, becoming a new type of contender in private real estate fundraising in the process.