The Gaming Playbook w/ Harry Phokou

• #46 – Matt Hitchcock: Why Great Games Still Fail Without Great Marketing

  In this episode, I sit down with Matt Hitchcock, co-founder of Other Things Agency, to break down what it really takes to market, launch, and revive games in 2025. From creating game trailers that actually sell, to fixing poor launches and standing out on Steam, this is the conversation every indie developer and studio marketer needs to hear.Matt shares insights from working on campaigns for Elder Scrolls Online, Squirrel With a Gun, and Cloudheim, revealing how studios can build hype, craft effective trailers, and make their store pages convert. We also dive into hiring in the games industry, what great portfolios look like, and the mistakes job seekers keep making.If you’re building, marketing, or relaunching a game, this episode will save you time, money, and frustration.Connect with Matt:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthitch/E-mail: [email protected]: https://otherthingsagency.com/Connect with Harry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hphokou/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hphokouInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hphokouGet exclusive podcast recaps & industry insights: → Subscribe to the Gaming Rally Newsletter www.gamingrally.netChapters:00:00 Intro03:01 Elder Scrolls Online live-action trailer breakdown05:13 Why trailers matter for conversion on Steam08:25 When to start marketing your game10:30 Working with creators the right way12:10 Squirrel With a Gun – how to go viral with intent17:12 The truth about viral formulas in game marketing19:10 In-engine cinematic capture and authenticity26:58 Why most indies underinvest in marketing33:51 What to do if your game isn’t selling37:12 Key art 101: how visuals sell your game43:02 When and why to refresh your store art45:11 Reviving and re-marketing older games47:15 Continuous marketing done right50:42 Hiring insights: what makes portfolios stand out59:05 Common job applicant mistakes1:02:00 Final advice for devs and creatives#GameMarketing #IndieDev #GameTrailers #SteamLaunch #GamingIndustry

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• #45 – Amir Satvat: 2,000 Rejections Before Landing His Dream Job in Games

  What does it actually take to build a career in games? In this episode, I sit down with Amir Satvat, Director of Business Development at Tencent and the creator of one of the biggest gaming career communities online. Amir’s helped almost 4,000 people land roles in games, all while juggling a full-time job.We talk about the real odds of getting into the industry, how he handled 2,000+ job rejections, what it takes to build visibility on LinkedIn, and the personal cost of becoming a public figure.Whether you’re just starting out or making a career move within games, this conversation dives into how to stay consistent, build systems that last, and turn your passion for games into a long-term career.Connect with AmirLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirsatvat/Website: https://amirsatvat.com/Connect with Harry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hphokou/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hphokouInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hphokouGet exclusive podcast recaps & industry insights: → Subscribe to the Gaming Rally Newsletter www.gamingrally.netChapters:00:00 Intro01:20 Thanksgiving 2022: How Amir’s journey to help began03:40 Breaking into games after 2,000 job rejections05:50 Family, remote work, and finding balance08:05 Persistence, purpose, and building career momentum11:50 Showing your passion vs. just saying it13:40 “I’ve done everything I can” mindset trap15:40 Networking, visibility, and why no one gets hired by accident20:25 Building relationships and using mentorship to get feedback25:05 The hidden job market and how most hiring really happens28:55 Creation of the Games Jobs Workbook and community34:20 Lessons from hosting and scaling gaming events36:20 Productivity, delegation, and avoiding burnout43:10 Who’s getting hired in games right now (data insights)45:20 Nepotism, referrals, and why trust drives hiring decisions49:00 Handling negativity and staying authentic online55:35 Why criticism doesn’t matter unless it’s from the right people59:00 Giving back without burning out01:02:30 Finding non-games work for gamers01:06:50 Final thoughts and where to connect with Amir#GameCareers #GamingIndustry #CareerAdvice #AmirSatvat #LinkedInGrowth

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• #44 – Andrew Pappas: How Empathy-Driven Marketing Builds Successful Indie Games

  Ever wondered why some indie games blow up without “doing any marketing”? And why that idea frustrates real game marketers?In this episode, I sit down with Andrew Pappas, founder of RenGen Marketing and host of Indie Game Movement podcast, to unpack what real marketing looks like for indie studios in 2025. Andrew has worked with countless devs across the world to help them understand how to connect with players, build sustainable studios, and turn creative passion into commercial success.We talk about why marketing should start at the concept stage, how to identify player pain points before you even prototype, and why so many devs are leaving money on the table by ignoring empathy-driven marketing. Andrew also breaks down how to build trust-based content, choose the right marketing channels for your strengths, and craft systems that actually scale without burning out your team.This is a practical, no-fluff deep dive into how indie studios can market smarter, connect deeper with players, and build a real business around creativity, not just luck.Connect with Andrew:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewpappas-rengen/Website: https://www.rengenmarketing.com/Podcast: https://www.rengenmarketing.com/podcast/100-2/Newsletter: https://www.rengenmarketing.com/newsletter/Connect with Harry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hphokou/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hphokouInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hphokouGet exclusive podcast recaps & industry insights: → Subscribe to the Gaming Rally Newsletter www.gamingrally.netChapters:00:00 Intro02:40  Why marketing should start before development07:20 Demand-based vs solution-based thinking12:00 Using player pain points to design better games18:10 The risks of long dev cycles in a fast-changing market23:00 Marketing strategy vs marketing plan explained28:40 Why copying other studios’ marketing doesn’t work34:30 Leading with empathy to connect with players40:10 How to understand your players without being salesy46:50 Choosing the right channels for your indie game51:20 Building a repeatable marketing process57:00 Measuring resonance instead of raw reach1:03:20 Understanding your player’s buying journey1:08:40 Making marketing entertaining and memorable1:11:30 Andrew’s final advice for indie developers#IndieGameMarketing #GameDevPodcast #PlayerFirstDesign #SteamMarketing #IndieDevGrowth

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• #43 – Marcus Holmström: How Roblox Is Rewriting the Rules of Game Development

  Ever wondered how to scale a gaming studio to over 200+ staff without raising a single dollar of VC funding?In this episode, I sit down with Marcus Holmstrom, Co-Founder and CEO of The Gang, who shares how he built one of the world’s leading Roblox studios, and working with brands like FIFA, Netflix, Amazon, and Wimbledon, while pioneering the rise of UGC gaming.We talk about how Roblox developers are actually making huge money from their games, what’s driving the UGC boom, and why more traditional studios are starting to take notice. Marcus also breaks down how to build a remote-first team, hire the right people, and create games that find product-market fit fast.This is a practical, no-fluff deep dive into the business of modern gaming, from bootstrapping to global scale.Connect with Marcus:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusholmstrom/Website: https://www.thegang.io/Press Kit: https://readymag.website/TheGang/Presskit-2025/Strongman Simulator: https://www.roblox.com/games/6766156863/Strongman-SimulatorConnect with Harry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hphokou/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hphokouInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hphokouGet exclusive podcast recaps & industry insights: → Subscribe to the Gaming Rally Newsletter www.gamingrally.net01:10 Intro03:03 How The Gang was founded05:44 What Roblox really is (and why it matters)07:47 Why Grow a Garden became the biggest game ever09:25 How Roblox games make millions13:03 Building 40+ games in 5 years13:44 Working with brands like Netflix, FIFA & Amazon17:40 From hobby project to 300+ employees20:37 Why full-time staff beat contractors22:50 Running remote-first studios pre-COVID26:34 Using Discord as a digital office29:43 Culture, communication & daily structure32:04 Why the age demographics of Roblox matters35:43 Why major studios are now building on Roblox37:54 How monetization really works on Roblox42:40 Welcome to Bloxburg: a case study46:05 Why simplicity wins on Roblox48:05 The Strongman Simulator story (1.5B plays!)53:20 Parents, kids & spending on digital goods58:06 Health-based gaming & motion integration59:07 Hiring tips for scaling studios01:05:29 Final takeaways & how to contact The Gang#RobloxDevelopment #GamingBusiness #UGCgaming #GameDevPodcast #StartupGrowth

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• #42 – John Wright: From Accountant to CEO, Breaking Into the Gaming Industry & Scaling Mobile Games

  Dreaming of breaking into the games industry or scaling your studio?In this episode, John Wright (CEO of Turborilla) shares his journey from leaving accountancy to leading a studio with 200M+ downloads, plus hard-earned lessons on leadership, mobile publishing, and scaling games in today’s competitive market.We cover everything from transferable skills and breaking into gaming, to user acquisition strategies, playable ads, retention metrics, and building a motivated team.This is a raw, practical guide for anyone serious about games, leadership, and publishing.- Learn how to transition careers into gaming with no direct experience- Discover how CEOs manage change, culture, and accountability- Understand why retention and CPI make or break mobile games- Hear real-world lessons from $2B in user acquisition spend- Insider tips on networking, scaling, and sustaining success in gamingConnect with John:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnwright1987/Website: https://www.turborilla.com/Mad Skills Motocross 3: https://apps.apple.com/ua/app/mad-skills-motocross-3/id1508275130?l=en, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.turborilla.bike.racing.madskillsmotocross3&hl=ukConnect with Harry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hphokou/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hphokouInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hphokouGet exclusive podcast recaps & industry insights: → Subscribe to the Gaming Rally Newsletter www.gamingrally.netChapters:00:00 Intro01:40 Episode roadmap: leadership, publishing, and game economics02:53 John’s background: identity crisis at 25 & leaving accountancy08:50 Advice for newcomers to the games industry17:40 What being CEO at Turborilla looks like23:16 How to manage change as a CEO26:43 Aligning people with business goals & accountability31:14 Structuring company goals and roadmaps35:15 The “happiness index” and motivating teams40:31 The rise of playable ads and lessons learned45:13 CPI, IPM, and industry metrics explained49:53 Zynga, Rollic, acquisitions & scaling user bases52:52 Profitability vs exits in gaming businesses58:46 What separates a “good” game from a scalable hit01:02:10 Retention, MVPs, and testing strategies01:06:01 Ads vs retention: which comes first?01:09:41 Strategies for new studios in a competitive market01:11:43 Understanding VC theses and their impact on funding01:17:23 Giving back to the gaming community01:21:53 The future of AI in game development01:25:31 Closing thoughts and ways to connect

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