The Gaming Playbook w/ Harry Phokou

• #49 - Jenny Xu: From Indie Game Dev to CEO & Staying Focused Under Pressure

  Today's guest is Jenny Xu, a long-distance runner, Forbes 30 Under 30, and CEO of Talofa Games.Jenny breaks down her wild journey from making 100+ games as a kid to raising $6M and building Monster Walk, a genre-bending fitness RPG. We dig into founder focus, beating overwhelm, fundraising reality, personal identity, creative intuition, and the life moments that shaped her. If you’re building games, raising money, or trying to stay disciplined as a founder, this episode is for you.Connect with Jenny:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xujennyc/Monster walk: https://linktr.ee/talofaConnect with Harry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hphokou/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hphokouInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hphokouGet exclusive podcast recaps & industry insights:→ Subscribe to The Gaming Playbook Weekly at thegamingplaybook.comChapters:00:00 Intro03:14 How Jenny started making games at 12 (anime, Pokémon, Flash)05:25 Paying for college with mobile games07:24 Edgy genres, horror dating sims, and internet anonymity10:29 How to make streamers pick up your game (real strategy)13:41 Building Talofa: combining fitness + games15:15 Monster Walk deep dive: world, mechanics, steps16:48 Behaviour change through game design18:22 Mission-driven recruiting & team motivation19:27 Fundraising reality: insecurity, desperation, and losing confidence21:53 The turning point: pitching from personal truth24:56 Why she taught fitness every single day for 3 years27:16 Jenny's 'almost quit' story & getting into the Niantic contest32:10 “Applying to everything” & creating your own luck36:34 Founder focus: events, burnout, and intentional calendars42:56 Calendar engineering, morning vs. evening energy45:42 Remote work strategies, treadmill calls, and keeping energy up47:45 What she’d do differently when building the first product51:18 Filtering feedback without losing creative vision53:34 The emotional story: surprising her parents with a wedding59:44 Life timing, gratitude, and closing reflections

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• #48 - Simon Sundén: Why Esports Helps Some Games And Hurts Others

  Today's guest is Simon Sundén, a veteran of the competitive gaming scene, CEO of Clutch Group, and the operator behind major esports productions like the GeoGuessr World Cup.We dig into the rise of esports from its origins in South Korea, how livestreaming changed the industry forever, and why most studios misunderstand what esports is actually for. Simon breaks down what makes a game truly competitive, how to evaluate esports potential, and why watchability matters more than most devs realise.Whether you're a game developer, studio founder, or just obsessed with competitive gaming, this is a masterclass in understanding how esports really works.Connect with Simon:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonsunden/Company's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/clutchgame/Connect with Harry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hphokou/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hphokouInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hphokouGet exclusive podcast recaps & industry insights:→ Subscribe to The Gaming Playbook Weekly at thegamingplaybook.comChapters:00:00 Intro03:03 The origins of esports and the Korean boom07:43 How streaming transformed competitive gaming13:14 How esports boosts game retention and monetization19:06 How GeoGuessr unexpectedly became a successful esports24:27 How to know if your game is ready for esports32:51 Why watchability is crucial for streaming and competition36:30 Could “Peak” become an esports? Simon’s analysis41:30 What it actually takes to run an esports competition45:08 Cutting noise, delegating smartly, and staying focused51:18 Meetings, productivity, and the value of IRL networking55:14 Essential advice for new studios today57:16 Community building done right for modern games

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• #47 – Henri Lindgren: What It Takes To Survive As a Founder In Games

  Today's guest is Henri Lindgren, a veteran games industry leader, CEO of Kokoon Games, and former head of Lightneer.We unpack the real side of building and leading game studios, from scaling startups to shutting down companies, rebuilding from scratch, and mastering resilience as a founder. Henri shares insights about leadership, culture, and mental endurance in the turbulent games industry, along with practical strategies for bootstrapping, raising angel investment, and avoiding the VC trap. Whether you’re a game dev, entrepreneur, or creative leader, this is a masterclass in staying resilient when the grind gets real.Connect with Henri:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/henri-lindgren-9a388b39/Company's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kokoongames/Connect with Harry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hphokou/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hphokouInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hphokouGet exclusive podcast recaps & industry insights:→ Subscribe to The Gaming Playbook Weekly at thegamingplaybook.comChapters:00:00 Intro02:30 Henri’s 16-year journey in gaming and founding Kokoon Games03:44 Why resilience is the most underrated founder skill07:22 The rise and fall of Lightneer: lessons in leadership and culture11:37 Bootstrapping vs VC: how to survive tough markets14:47 Building company culture and values from scratch19:10 Tactical resilience: how to simplify and refocus under pressure22:41 Time blocking, focus, and managing chaos as a founder26:34 Surviving event season and keeping mental reserves31:22 The myth of the solo founder hero33:47 Hiring smart and avoiding premature scaling36:17 CEO loneliness and coping with leadership isolation41:19 Raising angel investment vs VC in 2025’s market45:47 Cap tables, advisory shares, and avoiding equity mistakes49:20 The state of Finland’s games industry and what’s next55:44 Inside Kokoon’s new party game and design inspiration01:02:06 What Henri’s playing right now & closing thoughts

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• #46 – Matt Hitchcock: Why Great Games Still Fail Without Great Marketing

  In this episode, I sit down with Matt Hitchcock, co-founder of Other Things Agency, to break down what it really takes to market, launch, and revive games in 2025. From creating game trailers that actually sell, to fixing poor launches and standing out on Steam, this is the conversation every indie developer and studio marketer needs to hear.Matt shares insights from working on campaigns for Elder Scrolls Online, Squirrel With a Gun, and Cloudheim, revealing how studios can build hype, craft effective trailers, and make their store pages convert. We also dive into hiring in the games industry, what great portfolios look like, and the mistakes job seekers keep making.If you’re building, marketing, or relaunching a game, this episode will save you time, money, and frustration.Connect with Matt:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthitch/E-mail: [email protected]: https://otherthingsagency.com/Connect with Harry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hphokou/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hphokouInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hphokouGet exclusive podcast recaps & industry insights: → Subscribe to the Gaming Rally Newsletter www.gamingrally.netChapters:00:00 Intro03:01 Elder Scrolls Online live-action trailer breakdown05:13 Why trailers matter for conversion on Steam08:25 When to start marketing your game10:30 Working with creators the right way12:10 Squirrel With a Gun – how to go viral with intent17:12 The truth about viral formulas in game marketing19:10 In-engine cinematic capture and authenticity26:58 Why most indies underinvest in marketing33:51 What to do if your game isn’t selling37:12 Key art 101: how visuals sell your game43:02 When and why to refresh your store art45:11 Reviving and re-marketing older games47:15 Continuous marketing done right50:42 Hiring insights: what makes portfolios stand out59:05 Common job applicant mistakes1:02:00 Final advice for devs and creatives#GameMarketing #IndieDev #GameTrailers #SteamLaunch #GamingIndustry

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• #45 – Amir Satvat: 2,000 Rejections Before Landing His Dream Job in Games

  What does it actually take to build a career in games? In this episode, I sit down with Amir Satvat, Director of Business Development at Tencent and the creator of one of the biggest gaming career communities online. Amir’s helped almost 4,000 people land roles in games, all while juggling a full-time job.We talk about the real odds of getting into the industry, how he handled 2,000+ job rejections, what it takes to build visibility on LinkedIn, and the personal cost of becoming a public figure.Whether you’re just starting out or making a career move within games, this conversation dives into how to stay consistent, build systems that last, and turn your passion for games into a long-term career.Connect with AmirLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirsatvat/Website: https://amirsatvat.com/Connect with Harry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hphokou/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hphokouInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hphokouGet exclusive podcast recaps & industry insights: → Subscribe to the Gaming Rally Newsletter www.gamingrally.netChapters:00:00 Intro01:20 Thanksgiving 2022: How Amir’s journey to help began03:40 Breaking into games after 2,000 job rejections05:50 Family, remote work, and finding balance08:05 Persistence, purpose, and building career momentum11:50 Showing your passion vs. just saying it13:40 “I’ve done everything I can” mindset trap15:40 Networking, visibility, and why no one gets hired by accident20:25 Building relationships and using mentorship to get feedback25:05 The hidden job market and how most hiring really happens28:55 Creation of the Games Jobs Workbook and community34:20 Lessons from hosting and scaling gaming events36:20 Productivity, delegation, and avoiding burnout43:10 Who’s getting hired in games right now (data insights)45:20 Nepotism, referrals, and why trust drives hiring decisions49:00 Handling negativity and staying authentic online55:35 Why criticism doesn’t matter unless it’s from the right people59:00 Giving back without burning out01:02:30 Finding non-games work for gamers01:06:50 Final thoughts and where to connect with Amir#GameCareers #GamingIndustry #CareerAdvice #AmirSatvat #LinkedInGrowth

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