The Sticky From The Inside Podcast

AI is making individuals more productive than ever before.

But could it also be making organisations less connected?

As every function gains access to increasingly powerful AI tools, there's a growing risk that teams become more efficient at working independently while becoming less aligned with one another.

Chris White believes that's one of the biggest leadership challenges of our time.

In this episode of Sticky From The Inside, Andy Goram speaks with the former Cisco executive and author of Non-Optional Collaboration about why human collaboration is becoming more important, not less, in the age of AI.

Drawing on lessons from helping scale Cisco from $1 billion to $50 billion, leading global transformation programmes and building high-performing teams across multiple industries, Chris explains why collaboration can no longer be viewed as a soft skill or leadership nice-to-have.

Together, Andy and Chris explore the dangers of organisational silos, the myth of the hero leader, the lessons business can learn from elite rowing teams, and why the organisations that thrive in the future will be those that combine two powerful forces: Artificial intelligence and human collaboration.

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Key Takeaways

AI may be making silos stronger. AI can dramatically improve productivity, but without intentional leadership it may also accelerate disconnection between teams.

Collaboration is an operating system. High-performing organisations don't leave collaboration to chance. They build structures, habits and processes that encourage alignment.

Great leaders improve people. The leaders who leave lasting impact are those who help people achieve more than they thought possible.

Team success beats individual heroics. Whether in rowing, business or transformation, sustainable success comes from coordinated effort rather than individual brilliance.

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Key Moments
The key moments in this episode are:

01:11 – Why collaboration has become non-optional
03:22 – Meet Chris White and the lessons of a global career
08:25 – The Cisco experience: learning to unlock team performance
11:07 – Why collaboration is no longer a nice-to-have
15:36 – What rowing teaches us about trust, rhythm and teamwork
18:28 – Inside the Non-Optional Collaboration framework
21:20 – The planning exercise that exposes hidden risks
24:03 – Why strategy fails when operating models don't align
28:32 – Collaboration versus teamwork: understanding the difference
30:43 – The myth of the hero leader
37:07 – Human collaboration: the second superpower
40:44 – Cancer, perspective and why the book had to be written
42:20 – Chris White's three Sticky Notes

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We've never had more workplace wellbeing initiatives. More employee assistance programmes. More mindfulness apps. More resilience training. More engagement surveys. And yet burnout remains stubbornly high, stress-related absence continues to rise, and employees seem more exhausted than ever.

So what's really going on?

In this episode of Sticky From The Inside, Andy Goram is joined by workplace wellness and organisational culture expert Andria Barrett to explore why the answer may have less to do with individual resilience and more to do with how modern work is designed.

Together they unpack the hidden causes of workplace exhaustion, why burnout is becoming harder to spot, the role leaders play in creating healthier environments, and why genuine human connection remains one of the most powerful drivers of performance and wellbeing.

They also explore the opportunities and anxieties surrounding AI, and why technology should help people reclaim time rather than simply increase workloads.

If you've ever wondered why people seem to be working harder than ever but feeling less energised than before, this conversation offers a timely and practical perspective.

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Key Takeaways

Burnout Has Gone Underground. Employees may still be showing up and performing, but many are quietly reaching their limits and considering their next move.

Wellbeing Is A Design Choice. Sustainable wellbeing comes from how work is structured, not from occasional initiatives or one-off programmes.

Connection Drives Performance. People do their best work when they feel supported, valued, and able to reach out for help when they need it.

Leaders Set The Tone. Employees take their cues from leaders, making healthy behaviours and sustainable ways of working essential to model.

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Key Moments
The key moments in this episode are:

0:01:11 – Why are so many people exhausted at work?
0:03:45 – Meet Andria Barrett and her approach to workplace culture
0:05:26 – Why feeling better helps people perform better
0:07:34 – The growing challenge of leadership and management burnout
0:09:51 – Burnout has gone underground
0:13:44 – Productivity, pressure and the modern work dilemma
0:17:22 – Why leaders must take responsibility for healthier workplaces
0:19:49 – Why workplace wellbeing initiatives often miss the mark
0:23:03 – Better hours, not more hours
0:26:01 – Using creativity and sensory learning to unlock innovation
0:31:05 – Stress, cortisol and the physical impact of overwork
0:35:35 – The six personal batteries behind sustainable performance
0:36:09 – Why leaders must model healthy behaviours
0:37:30 – Connection as a workplace superpower
0:39:45 – AI anxiety and the future of work
0:42:41 – Andria’s 3 Sticky Notes for healthier workplaces

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In Part 2 of this special conversation on The Art Of Trust Building, Dr Dennis Reina and Dr Michelle Reina move from awareness into action. If trust matters more than ever, how do we actually build it?

In this episode, Dennis and Michelle unpack their practical 3Cs framework for trust-building:

Character

Communication

Capability

Together, we explore:

The behaviours that strengthen trust

Why trust must become habit

How trust can be measured intentionally

What high-trust cultures actually look like

Repairing trust when things go wrong

And why leaders must live trust, not simply demand it or talk about it

This conversation is practical, actionable, and full of immediately usable insight for leaders, teams, and organisations.

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Key Takeaways

Trust Needs A Shared Language. The 3Cs framework gives leaders and teams practical ways to discuss trust behaviourally and constructively.

Character Is The Foundation Of Trust. Trust begins when people consistently honour commitments, clarify expectations, and follow through.

Trust-Building Must Become Habit. Trust grows through repeated behaviours that become embedded into everyday organisational life.

Leaders Must Model Trust. High-trust cultures emerge when leaders actively demonstrate, teach, and reinforce trust-building behaviours themselves.

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Key Moments
The key moments in this episode are:

00:00 — Returning To The Conversation And Why Part 2 Gets Practical
03:24 — Introducing The 3Cs Of Trust Building
05:11 — Trust Of Character And Why Behaviour Matters
06:07 — Trust Of Communication And Psychological Safety
06:44 — Trust Of Capability And Helping People Grow
08:08 — Why The 3Cs Create Shared Language Around Trust
11:16 — Turning Trust-Building Behaviours Into Habit
13:18 — Expectations, Clarity And The Family Vacation Story
15:43 — Measuring Trust And Creating Awareness
20:16 — Why Trust Data Creates Better Conversations
27:25 — Building Developmental Energy Through Trust Assessments
28:00 — Transforming Culture Through Trust-Building Leadership
32:26 — Leaders Becoming Teachers Of Trust
39:10 — How High-Trust Cultures Accelerate Growth And Collaboration
45:06 — Repairing Trust And Rebuilding Relationships
48:12 — Why Trust-Building Is A Lifelong Leadership Discipline

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Trust affects everything. How we lead. How we communicate. How we collaborate. How safe people feel to contribute. And ultimately, how organisations perform.

Yet despite its importance, most organisations still leave trust to chance.

In this first part of a special two-part conversation, I speak with Dr Dennis Reina and Dr Michelle Reina, pioneers in the field of workplace trust and authors of The Art Of Trust Building, to explore why trust has become one of the defining leadership challenges of our time.

Together, we unpack:

Why leaders are finally waking up to trust

The hidden erosion caused by small behaviours

The role of vulnerability and self-awareness

Why self-trust matters in the age of AI

How disruption changes human connection

And why trust must become an intentional daily discipline

This conversation is thoughtful, practical, deeply human and shows why trust is more relevant than ever.

And in Part 2, which follows, we move into the practical frameworks and behaviours that help leaders intentionally build and repair trust at work.

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Key Takeaways

Trust Is Earned, Not Assumed. Leadership titles and expertise may create credibility, but trust is built through consistent behaviour over time.

Small Behaviours Shape Trust. Most trust breakdowns happen gradually through repeated small moments rather than dramatic betrayals.

Self-Trust Matters More Than Ever. In a world shaped by disruption and AI, people need confidence in their own judgment and contribution.

Trust Requires Intentional Practice. Trust-building becomes sustainable when it turns into conscious, repeatable behavioural habits.

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Key Moments
The key moments in this episode are:

00:11 — Why Trust Shapes How We Live, Work And Connect
03:40 — Michelle Reina’s Story Of Service, Disruption And Human Connection
08:59 — Dennis Reina’s Early Lessons About Trust And Vulnerability
12:16 — Why Leaders Are Finally Paying Attention To Trust
16:10 — Self-Trust In The Age Of AI And Constant Change
18:07 — Defining Trust And Why It Must Be Earned Intentionally
20:00 — Why Expertise And Leadership Titles Don’t Automatically Create Trust
23:55 — Self-Discovery, Awareness And Intentional Behaviour
27:56 — Why Trust Is Felt Emotionally And Physically
29:42 — Capacity For Trust And How Early Experiences Shape Us
35:10 — How Trust Expands And Contracts Throughout Life
40:42 — Why Reflection And Vulnerability Strengthen Trust
44:02 — The Hidden Cost Of Leaving Trust To Chance

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What if creating a culture of ownership had nothing to do with your organisation and everything to do with you?

In this episode of Sticky From The Inside, Andy Goram is joined by Greg Hawks to challenge one of the biggest assumptions in workplace culture today, that ownership is something leaders create and employees receive.

Greg flips that thinking on its head.

This conversation explores why ownership isn’t a corporate initiative, a leadership tactic, or something written into a job description. It’s a personal choice. One that shapes how we respond to challenges, how we engage with others, and ultimately, how fulfilling our work feels.

Together, Andy and Greg unpack:

Why disengagement often comes from a “done to me” mindset

The difference between owners, renters, and vandals in organisations

Why most companies are trying to fix the wrong problem

How language, trust, and mindset shape our daily experience at work

What it really takes to create a culture where people care, contribute, and step up

If you’ve ever felt frustrated, disengaged, or like work is something that happens to you, this episode offers a powerful reframe. Because creating a culture of ownership doesn’t start with leadership. It starts with a choice.

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Key Takeaways

Ownership starts with personal choice. Ownership is not given by organisations, it’s a decision individuals make to regain control, perspective and fulfilment.

Culture is shaped by everyday behaviour. A culture of ownership emerges from consistent individual choices to care, contribute and take responsibility.

Not all disengagement is equal. Owners, renters and vandals influence culture differently, and unchecked vandals can actively undermine engagement.

Leaders create the conditions for ownership. Ownership grows when people experience meaningful return, hear specific recognition, and see clear behavioural standards upheld.

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Key Moments
The key moments in this episode are:

00:01:11 – Should Employees Really Care Like Owners?
00:02:56 – Setting the Stage: What Drives Ownership at Work?
00:06:05 – Ownership Isn’t for the Company—It’s for You
00:08:04 – Breaking Free from the “Done To Me” Mindset
00:12:22 – What a True Culture of Ownership Actually Feels Like
00:14:49 – Unlock #1: Why Risking Bold Commitments Changes Everything
00:17:16 – Owners, Renters and Vandals: The Mindsets That Shape Culture
00:20:16 – Why Most Organisations Are Fixing the Wrong Problem
00:22:30 – Unlock #2: Activating Lasting Value Through Words
00:27:30 – From Mindset to Behaviour: Ownership, Trust and Personal Return
00:39:30 – Designing the Conditions for a Culture of Ownership
00:44:35 – Sticky Notes: Three Truths About Ownership and Fulfilment

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