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  • Dominate Page 1: How to Rank 5 Parasite SEO Properties in Hours
    Think of page one as real estate—and claim as much of it as possible. Jesper Nissen breaks down modern parasite SEO: leveraging high-authority platforms (YouTube, Instagram, X/Twitter Articles, Perplexity/Qwen pages, etc.) to rank quickly for branded, local, and long-tail keywords. We cover indexing workflows, daisy-chain linking, exact-match domain plays, and the content + link velocity patterns that are working now.Guest Jesper Nissen — SEO educator, link-building practitioner, founder of SchemaWriter.ai and the cloud-stacking platform YACSS; speaker at POFU Live / SEO Rockstars; MSc in Physics (U. of Copenhagen). Guest Links Website: https://jespernissen.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JesperNissenSEO X (Twitter): https://x.com/jespernissenseo?lang=enWhat You’ll LearnParasite SEO, 2025 edition: Why page-one results increasingly favor social UGC, news, and authority domains—and how to ride that DA for fast wins. Platforms that still rank: Jesper’s current leaderboard (e.g., Qwen, Perplexity) and what changed for Claude Artifacts.Local + long-tail focus: How to use Facebook/Instagram posts, YouTube videos & community posts, and X Articles to own branded and geo-keywords.Indexing workflow: Indexing services + social “daisy-chain” links to accelerate discovery.EMD plays: Exact-match domains (service+city and SaaS feature terms) and smart, steady link velocity patterns.Social → Search shift: Why Instagram and Facebook posts have started surfacing in Google (July 2025 change) and how to write posts to rank. Timestamps00:00 — Owning page one like “real estate”02:16 — Parasite SEO vs. traditional guest posts08:45 — Reddit’s link-out limits & why Jesper moved on14:58 — Claude Artifacts surge (and why it cooled)18:02 — What’s working now: Quen & Perplexity pages21:35 — Indexing flow: drip pings + social link bursts26:40 — Meta shift: FB/IG posts in Google (local SEO gold) 31:55 — Exact-match domains + link velocity math46:55 — Shorts as TOF magnets; long-form as sales letter51:40 — Priming YouTube with low-CPC X ads (global)Jesper’s Parasite SEO Playbook (Step-by-Step)Pick a target query (branded, local, or long-tail).Publish across high-DA surfaces:YouTube (video + Community post), X/Twitter (Articles), Instagram, Facebook Page, plus AI page builders (e.g., Quen, Perplexity).Front-load keywords in social posts (especially the first words of FB/IG captions for cleaner URLs/titles).Daisy-chain internal links: point your X Article to the IG/FB/YouTube/AI pages to aid indexing.Kick indexing via reputable ping/index services, then add lightweight social links to nudge crawl.Measure and iterate: keep winners, replace laggards, expand with adjacent long tails.Exact-Match Domain (EMD) Mini-FrameworkWhen to use: service+city rank-and-rent, or narrowly defined SaaS use-cases.Build: one-page lander, fast crawl path, 5–10 quality links/month early, layer socials & citations; avoid unnatural velocity spikes.Why it works: high topical alignment + clean intent matching. (Jesper’s background in cloud stacking/YACSS and SchemaWriter.ai complements this with structured data & internal “powerstack” patterns.) SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Graphed — the AI-native analytics platform that builds dashboards from plain English. Connect GA4, ads, CRM, GSC, and Sheets to get KPI boards in minutes. Learn more: https://graphed.com/
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  • You Can Get $0.80 CPM from TV Streaming Ads Right now
    Billboards at $0.75 CPM. Streaming TV you can actually measure. Tim Rowe breaks down how to blend OOH + CTV to drop blended CAC, spark geo-lift, and build “living-room” brand equity—without massive budgets.Streaming has turned TV into a performance channel you can buy, cap, and measure like digital—often at CPMs rivaling or beating social. Tim explains how their ad server + pixel connect living-room exposure to down-funnel actions, with many brands seeing $3–$4 cost per visit and 3–4× higher conversion vs other traffic sources. On OOH, the overlooked arbitrage is static or digital boards priced like real estate: win by buying the biggest formats in the largest markets at the lowest biddable entry price, then engineer earned media (social virality) and geo-lift. Start with ~$5k for a real CTV test (smaller tests can still work as an add-on), measure blended CAC, branded search, and market-level lift, and let creative—not hyper-granular targeting—do the heavy lifting.GuestWebsite: https://cognitionads.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/troweactualX (Twitter): https://x.com/oohinsiderTim’s newsletter/resource hub: https://stateofstreaming.com/What You’ll LearnWhy streaming made TV relevant again—and cheap ($1–$2 CPMs in some geos).How to attribute TV exposure → search → site visit → purchase within a 48-hour view-through window.The out-of-home (OOH) arbitrage: buying big signs in big markets for sub-$1 CPMs.How OOH + CTV lower blended CAC and lift branded search in target geographies.Practical first tests: budgets, pixels, frequency caps, creative, and geo measurement.Event playbooks: digital billboard trucks, rideshare screens, street teams, and QR flows.Targeting reality: on CTV, less targeting often wins—use creative as the filter.Retargeting on TV (yes): pixel site traffic and follow with CTV/audio/display.Timestamps & Chapters00:00 — Why TV is “back”: streaming CPMs and geo-targeted buys01:30 — Direct attribution: 48-hour view-through from TV → search → site → purchase03:45 — OOH primer: static vs digital, programmatic buys, and PMP tips06:05 — The arbitrage: big boards, big markets, tiny CPMs (often <$1)09:15 — Measuring lift: branded search, Search Console, geo-heatmaps, blended CAC12:10 — Earned media by design: turning boards into social fuel15:20 — Event playbook: mobile LED trucks, rideshare TV, coffee-cart sponsorships18:05 — CTV mechanics: ad server + pixel, frequency caps, “hands on keyboard” setup21:10 — Budgeting your first test (~$5k) and what “good” looks like23:00 — Targeting truth: broad wins; use creative, use your 1P data for segments/lookalikes26:10 — Retargeting on TV and building a full streaming funnel28:00 — Who this works best for (DTC, local services, ABM/SaaS, events)30:00 — Getting started and where to reach TimPlaybooks & How-Tos1) Fast OOH Test (2–4 weeks)Pick 1–2 large markets your sales team targets.Buy largest formats you can afford (static or digital) at the lowest CPM; test via https://www.blipbillboards.com/ (entry-level) or via PMPs/direct with operators.Creative: one bold claim + large logo + simple URL/QR. Design for 0–3 second read.Measure: branded search & direct/organic sessions from those geos; compare pre/post.2) Streaming TV (CTV) StarterPixel your site (for attribution + retargeting).Launch a broad geo campaign; cap frequency; rotate 1–2 :15–:30 creatives.Budget: aim for $5k to reach statistical signal; smaller ($1.5–$2k) still useful as a display-like add-on.KPI: cost per visit ($3–$4 is common in Tim’s data), conversion rate lift vs other traffic, branded search lift, blended CAC shift.3) Event Swarm TacticsDigital billboard truck looping near venue entrances all day.Rideshare TV for the event radius; add a QR to capture emails or drive an offer.Street team + product samples or demo cards; sponsor a coffee cart beside the venue.Key Takeaways (Skimmable)CPMs: OOH can hit ~$0.75; CTV often $1–$2 in the right geos.Attribution: Use a 48-hour view-through window from TV exposure to on-site actions.Blended CAC: Expect downstream CAC reductions across channels from brand lift.Targeting: On CTV, broader = cheaper CPMs and often better performance; let creative and 1P audiences do the work.Budget: $5k is a solid first test; smaller tests still demonstrate directionality.Creative: Be bold; engineer shareable moments to multiply paid with earned.Links & Resources MentionedCognition Ads (Tim’s company): https://cognitionads.com/State of Streaming (news & insights): https://stateofstreaming.com/Blip (entry-level digital billboards): https://www.blipbillboards.com/The Trade Desk: https://www.thetradedesk.com/DV360: https://marketingplatform.google.com/about/display-video-360/Google Search Console (measure geo-lift): https://search.google.com/search-console/aboutSponsorThis episode is brought to you by Graphed — an AI-native analytics platform that builds dashboards from plain English. Connect GA4, ads, CRM and get KPI boards in minutes. Learn more: https://graphed.com/
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  • Local SEO: How to Dominate Rankings in Just One Week
    Founders are ditching pure outbound for “community → product” funnels. Jacky Chou (Indexsy) breaks down a modern SaaS GTM: build audience, educate in a community, sell the tool that powers the play. We go deep on local SEO (map pack), YouTube as the highest-intent acquisition channel, Reddit/parasite SEO mechanics, and how LocalRank grows by educating & productizing services.GuestJacky Chou — IndexsyWebsite: https://jackychou.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@indexsy X (Twitter): https://x.com/indexsyBrought to you byGraphed — AI data analytics you can chat with. Connect your data, build live dashboards in minutes: https://graphed.comWhat You’ll LearnThe community-led SaaS funnel (audience → community → teach → tool)Local SEO 80/20: reviews, citations (NAP consistency), and CTR signalsWhy YouTube drives the most buyer-ready traffic for niche softwareParasite SEO & Reddit tactics to earn visibility and brand mentionsHow “education first” communities expand TAM and reduce CACCold outreach that feeds branded search and category creationChapters00:00 Intro — Why the SaaS funnel is shifting to community-led 01:45 Local SEO 101: map pack vs. organic results 03:40 The 80/20: reviews, citations/NAP, CTR signals 06:10 Tactics for generating reviews & citations (pros/cons, risks) 09:55 Indexing citations faster; NAP consistency checklist 12:40 Community-led growth & seeding new agencies on LocalRank 15:05 Why local SEO is “stupid easy” right now (and where it’s competitive) 17:30 Prospecting & pricing: pick high-CPC verticals, value-based fees 20:15 Packaging offers: guarantees, radius games, productized services 22:40 The funnel behind LocalRank Academy → software upsell 25:20 Paid vs. organic: X threads, remarketing, long email drips 27:15 Launch data: YouTube > X for paid conversions at launch 29:10 Reddit distribution, parasite SEO, and gaming brand mentions 32:20 Cold email that drives site visits (naked domains, link timing) 35:05 Manufacturing branded search & CTR spikes (digital PR ideas) 38:10 AI Search (AISCO): what (might) influence LLM surfaces today 43:05 Building moats: being the practitioner, faster iteration loops 46:10 Experiments, ethics & sustainability of “gray-hat” tactics 49:10 Where to find Jackie & final CTAsKey TakeawaysCommunity beats cold: educate first, then sell the tool that powers the play.Map pack wins local: Reviews + consistent NAP citations + real-world engagement drive outsized results.YouTube converts: Long-form demos/education create buyer-ready traffic for niche SaaS.Branded search compounds: Cold email, content, PR, and job posts can stimulate searches for your name/category.TAM expansion via education: A paid community can breakeven ad spend and prime higher-ticket software deals.
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  • Creator Marketing Crash Course: This Guy Built an AI Agent That Finds Creators, Emails Them and Negotiates Pricing
    https://www.graphed.com/ - AI data analyst to build dashboard and get insightsToday we break down why “influencer marketing” (renting audience) is losing to creator-based marketing (renting skill at making viral content) — and how to run it like a system. Guest Robert Lukoszko, founder of Stormy AI, shows how their agent finds creators, pulls contacts, sends DMs/emails, follows up, and even negotiates packages before you step in. We get tactical on budgets, pricing, UGC hiring, TikTok vs YouTube strategy, measurement, and building a compounding “surface-area” of content across the web. Brought to you by Graphed.com — connect your data, ask in plain English, ship shareable dashboards.GuestWebsite: stormy.ai Robert Lukoszko — LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/karmedge X (Twitter): @Karmedge What you’ll learnCreator vs Influencer marketing: Why FYP-driven platforms reward great content over big followings — and how to “rent” creators’ skill instead of their audience.The scalable workflow: Brief → research → outreach (DM/email) → qualify → negotiate packages → handoff to human for final approval.TikTok UGC machine: Hire 1–3 full-time UGC creators posting 2–3 shorts per day; test cheaply, then double down on breakout templates.YouTube packages that work: Three-video bundles over ~6 weeks build trust & lift; use retainers for your top performers.Negotiation scripts that convert: Lead with “Paid collaboration” in subject/first line, anchor on value, and offer volume/retainer discounts.Pricing reality check: Typical UGC test pieces land in the ~$20–$100/video range (many sweet-spot wins at $20–$50) for micro/nano creators; salaried UGC in EU markets often $1–2k/mo part-time depending on output and quality.Compounding effects: Viral videos spawn follower videos; repeated sightings increase creator reply-rates and lower CPAs.Agents as team members: Why modern stacks look like small pods of engineers orchestrating many narrow agents (research, outreach, follow-ups, CRM status, stop-conditions).Chapters & Timestamps00:00:00 — Cold open: “Stop influencer marketing. Start creator marketing.”00:01:17 — Sponsor: Graph.com (AI dashboards from plain English)00:02:26 — Guest intro: Robert (Founder, Stormy AI) + why YouTube/TikTok matter00:03:49 — The pain of manual outreach and why Stormy exists00:05:55 — How Stormy’s research agent finds/qualifies creators (views, recency, fit)00:08:15 — TikTok/UGC playbook: daily shorts, test → double down00:10:04 — It’s a numbers game: post volume & breakout templates00:12:00 — “Surface area” strategy: AI pulls from the open web; brand search as moat00:15:03 — Validating features with viral demos before shipping00:17:02 — Building in public: rapid iteration with creator feedback00:18:00 — Outreach mechanics: DMs, scraping bios/Linktree, multi-source emails00:20:06 — Copy that converts: lead with “Paid collaboration” + template tips00:21:46 — Scale metrics: ~200 messages/day across rotated inboxes; reply-rate ranges00:23:29 — Brand effects: recognition boosts replies; upfront vs affiliate by stage00:26:01 — Compounding virality: trend templates, creator social proof00:29:03 — Pricing: $20–$100 UGC tests; sweet spot $20–$50; EU part-time $1–2k/mo00:29:53 — Agentic negotiations: packages, volume, follow-ups, human handoff00:31:04 — Guardrails: budget anchoring, stop-conditions, funny “PayPal link” story00:35:05 — Toolbelt of agents: research, outreach, CRM updates, payments, bulk sends00:36:01 — Architecture: many narrow agents > one monolith00:37:51 — Future: fewer humans in the loop; AI influencers; approvals as human role00:39:16 — Can businesses run themselves? Media = growth flywheel00:41:11 — Hiring philosophy: engineer-heavy teams (Gary Tan advice)00:43:46 — Wrap + where to find Robert & StormyPlaybooks & templates (steal these)Outreach subject lines (email/DM first line):“Paid collaboration: {Brand} x {CreatorName} — 3-video package”“Paid promo + affiliate: {Brand} (fast approvals, simple brief)”First message (short DM/email): “Hey {Name} — we’re {Brand}, a {1-line what you do}. Paid collaboration: 1 test short this week (${offer}) + option to extend to 3-video bundle over 6 weeks. You keep creative control; we provide brief + examples. Interested? If yes, quick details + rate card?”Negotiation levers: volume (3-pack → 6-pack), multi-month cadence (1/mo), affiliate top-ups on performance, first-video discount, creative templates proven to hit.UGC hiring filter: Look for micro/nano creators (10k–50k) with at least one breakout (e.g., 500k+ views) in your niche; they have the “spark” but are still rationally priced. (Stormy highlights this pattern in search/fit scoring.) Key quotes (pull-ready)“Creator marketing rents skill at making viral content — not just an audience.”“It’s a numbers game twice: mass outreach, then mass posting — let the winners emerge.”“Lead with ‘Paid collaboration’ so creators instantly know there’s budget.”“Templates win. When a format pops, clone it and scale with more creators.”SponsorGraphed.com — Connect your SaaS/GA4/Shopify/data warehouse → ask in plain English → get dashboards & ad-hoc analysis; share with clients or your team in one click. (Free 10-seat trial for listeners — link in description.)
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  • His AI Voice Agent Answers 10,000+ Phone Calls for Restaurants Every Day
    https://www.graphed.com/ - AI data analyst to build dashboard and get insightsAI “agents” have been hyped to death—but very few are truly delivering real-world impact. In this episode, we cut through the vaporware with Christian Wiens, co-founder of Loman, an AI voice agent platform transforming how restaurants handle customer calls, orders, and reservations. Christian shares how Loman went from a two-person idea to serving hundreds of restaurants and hitting $1.5M ARR in record time. We dive into why voice is the most natural, context-rich way for humans to communicate—and how AI agents that do real work (not just answer questions) will change how we interact with businesses forever. You’ll hear how Loman’s restaurant agents integrate directly with POS systems to take orders end-to-end, the surprising reasons Gen Z prefers talking to AI over humans, and why the future of a brand’s “front door” may be an AI personality instead of a website. Christian also breaks down Loman’s explosive growth playbook—from ditching cold email for native social ads, to filming on-location customer stories that convert like crazy. We cover the realities of AI-generated ads, programmatic SEO, and why outcome-driven automation is the only AI worth paying for.What You’ll Learn in This EpisodeWhat really defines an AI agent—and why most products don’t qualifyHow voice-based AI can capture richer customer context than any app or formThe operational pain restaurants face with missed calls and how AI solves itWhy customers don’t care if it’s AI or human—only that it gets the job doneGen Z’s surprising comfort with AI calls (and discomfort with human ones)The two make-or-break factors every AI agent needs to succeedHow to create “native feel” ad creatives that crush on socialWhy hyper-specific vertical integration beats horizontal AI every timeThe massive untapped potential for outbound AI voice (and the legal gray areas)Christian’s vision for a future where AI agents replace websites as the primary customer touchpointChapters00:00 – Intro & The AI Agent Hype vs. Reality 04:18 – What an AI Agent Really Is 09:02 – Why Voice Is the Ultimate Interface 13:47 – The Restaurant Industry’s Missed Call Problem 18:25 – Gen Z’s Comfort with AI Calls 22:58 – Vertical vs. Horizontal AI Strategies 27:41 – Loman’s Explosive Growth Playbook 32:16 – Ads That Feel Native & Convert 37:08 – Outbound AI Voice & Legal Considerations 42:55 – The Future: AI Agents as the New Websites 47:20 – Closing Thoughts & How to Connect with ChristianConnect with Christian Wiens:LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianwiens/Website – https://www.loman.ai/
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