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    328 · Paul Scott - Why Technical Analysis is Just Retail Noise

    22/07/2026 | 1h 28 mins.
    Paul Scott entered the high-stakes trading floor of the London Metal Exchange at just 16 years old, survived years of trading under survival-mode pressure, and turned old-school pit wisdom into lifelong success.
After starting with a three-month probation and carrying the weight of his father's legendary legacy, Paul developed a disciplined approach to the most volatile corner of the market: commodities and forex. Today, his edge is built on experience and his pit logic trading approach, using price and value to guide his decisions while human behavior gives him the confidence to take the trade.In this conversation, Paul pulls back the curtain on his Survival to Success Arc, sharing the specific setups that allowed him to survive and scale through market chaos. He breaks down the fundamentals of his strategy, the open outcry framework, and how he transitioned from trading under pressure to trading with total directional agnosticism.

    In this episode, we explore:• How Paul Scott Navigated 30+ Years of Volatility on the LME Trading Floor• Paul’s start at 16 years old and trading under extreme physical and mental pressure• The mechanics behind his pit logic trading approach• Why Timeframe Doesn’t Matter
 • Why every major trade should be simple enough to explain in one sentence• How Do the Big Money Trade?• The Traits Identified in Successful Students• His advice for beginner traders

    About Paul Scott:Paul is a veteran commodities and forex trader known for his raw, practical approach and deep generational knowledge. Starting with the guidance of his legendary father, Harry Scott, he has documented more than three decades of trading through massive market scandals and institutional shifts. He specializes in momentum strategies and order flow behavior, focusing on the intersection of horizontal value zones and trader psychology.

    Links + Resources:Website: https://paulscottfx.com/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@paulscott3066/videosLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulscottfx/

    Sponsor of Chat With Traders Podcast:Trade The Pool: http://www.tradethepool.com

    Time Stamps:

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    00:00 Why Technical Analysis Is Just Retail Noise

    02:14 Being a Second-Generation Trader

    06:36 The Pressure of Having a Trader Dad

    07:48 What Was the Pit Really Like?

    15:06 The Biggest Metal Scandal in History

    21:00 Market Manipulation in the Digital Age

    24:50 What Is Pit Logic?

    31:56 Working with Goldman Sachs

    37:05 Modern Retail Traders vs. Professionals

    38:40 Can Traders Find Success Purely on Technicals?

    44:00 Trading for a Client vs. Trading for a Company

    42:55 Why Timeframe Doesn’t Matter

    47:42 Explain Your Trade in One Sentence

    49:39 Thinking About What the Institutions Are Doing

    54:04 How Do the Whales Trade?

    1:01:20 Let's Talk About Capital Preservation

    1:06:17 The Traits Identified in Successful Students

    1:12:27 Is There a Trade That Stands Out to You?

    1:20:18 What Is Your Advice to Your Younger Self?

    Trading Disclaimer: Trading in the financial markets involves a risk of loss. Podcast episodes and other content produced by Chat With Traders are for informational or educational purposes only and do not constitute trading or investment recommendations or advice.
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    327 · David Capablanca - From Skid Row Showers to Short Selling Master

    08/07/2026 | 1h 26 mins.
    David Capablanca pursued architecture for a decade, culminating in studying under a Pritzker Prize winner at UCLA, before a life threatening brain tumor, massive medical debt, and student loans forced him to completely reevaluate his life.After starting from rock bottom and carrying the weight of massive debt, David developed an all-consuming, "burn the boats" pursuit of trading mastery that saw him sleeping in his office, living out of his car, and showering on Skid Row just to trade the 4 AM pre-market session. Today, his edge is built on rigorous fundamental deep dives, forensic research into small cap pump and dump schemes, and a strict risk management framework designed to survive predatory market algorithms.In this conversation, David pulls back the curtain on his grueling journey from rock bottom to short selling master, detailing how he reverse-engineered the strategies of market manipulators. He breaks down the anatomy of modern short squeezes, his absolute checklist for avoidable stocks, and why protecting your capital to survive the learning curve is the ultimate rule.

    In this episode, we explore:· Surviving rock bottom, sleeping in a WeWork desk, and showering on Skid Row during Covid· Waking up from a coma: The life-threatening surgery that gave David the "gift of urgency"· How the Covid biotech mania changed his account forever· Going undercover in Colombia: Inside David’s high-stakes investigation of a cannabis pump and dump· Why David completely avoids trading Chinese and Singaporean small-caps· The reality of Wall Street favoritism and the mechanics behind requesting a "trade bust"· Analyzing early $60,000 losses

    About David Capablanca:David is an accomplished short seller, author, educator, podcast host, and founder of Friendly Bear University. Over a trading career shaped by intense study, he has built a verified seven-figure track record with a remarkable ninety percent win ratio. He has trained countless developing day traders, expanding his educational insights globally while championing an autodidact, highly disciplined framework to achieve true financial independence.
    Links + Resources:
    Upcoming Conference (October 12th): https://www.friendlybearuniversity.com/conference
    (Chat With Traders Team and Host Kevin Avery will be there live to co-host the forum!)
    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidCapablancaTrades
    X (Twitter): https://x.com/reverselong
    Instagram: https://instagram.com/reverselong
    Facebook: https://facebook.com/profile.php?id=772328557
    Website: https://www.friendlybearuniversity.com
    Pre-Order Short Selling Master Book: https://harriman-house.com/authors/david-capablanca/short-selling-master/9781804093290

    Sponsor of Chat With Traders Podcast:Trade The Pool: http://www.tradethepool.com

    Time Stamps:Please note: Exact times will vary depending on current ads.

    00:00 The Journey From Skid Row Showers to Short Selling Master05:14 Isolating from society to build an entrepreneurial identity11:05 Betting on Yourself Leaving Architecture15:02 Pattern recognition and risk management19:18 Waking up from a coma25:04 Selling the car, quitting alcohol, and sleeping on a shared office floor30:04 Trading the Covid biotech bubble34:13 Traveling to the Colombian jungle to verify a stock scam38:16 The moment David's spy-pen cover was blown by the cartel44:45 Why David completely bans Chinese stocks from his Trading50:24 How predatory algorithms map locate data to trap shorts55:04 Inside the New York Stock Exchange01:00:09 "Trade Bust" and the reality of Wall Street favoritism01:04:00 Reviewing early painful losses: The $60k loss01:09:04 Insider liquidity of after-hours news01:12:51 David's biggest winner01:17:57 The finish line of excellence01:20:12 Final piece of advice01:20:43 Where to Get The Short Selling Master Book

    Trading Disclaimer:Trading in the financial markets involves a risk of loss. Podcast episodes and other content produced by Chat With Traders are for informational or educational purposes only and do not constitute trading or investment recommendations or advice.
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    326 · Jason Berry - This Market Wizard Only Had 5 Losing Months in 14 Years... Here's How

    24/06/2026 | 1h 19 mins.
    Jason Berry co-founded Positive Equity in 2008. Built alongside partners and traders who raised the bar, the firm operates trading floors in Ireland and Croatia. Over a 14-year stretch of verified clearing statements, his small losses, long career approach resulted in only five losing months.Most people think trading success comes from predicting markets. In reality, Jason's multi-decade longevity proves that true consistency comes from deep discipline, strict risk control, and surviving long enough for compounding to work, earning him a featured chapter in Jack Schwager's book, Market Wizards: The Next Generation.In this conversation, Jason pulls back the curtain on his journey from a remote Northern California commune to the chaotic trading floors of London and Dublin. He breaks down the realities of managing a decaying edge, his framework for identifying raw talent in trainees, and why surrounding yourself with a team of disciplined professionals is the ultimate source of career longevity.In this episode, we explore:·        How Jason transitioned from an isolated childhood to the chaotic London trading floors·        The hidden edges of the open outcry era and the nature of "elbow trades"·        What Jack Schwager and the Market Wizards team look for when verifying a trader's record·        The structural reality of Jason's risk-reward framework·        Why summer vacations can cause traders to become rusty and lose touch with the market tape·        How to spot decaying market edges through the P&L before they do catastrophic damage·        The core personality traits and tells that separate successful trainees from those who fail·        Jason’s outlook on which traders will survive the next decade of AI and machine learning

    About Jason Berry:Jason is a professional futures trader, co-founder of Positive Equity, and a featured market wizard in the book, Market Wizards: The Next Generation. Over a career spanning nearly 30 years, Jason has documented a legendary track record of consistency and durability. He has trained well over 200 traders, expanding his operations from Dublin to Croatia while championing a team-driven approach to market mastery.

    Links + Resources:X (Twitter): https://x.com/JasonHBerryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonhberry

    Sponsor of Chat With Traders Podcast:Trade The Pool: http://www.tradethepool.com

    Time Stamps:Please note: Exact times will vary depending on current ads.

    00:00 He Only Had 5 Losing Months In 14 Years


    03:09 Introduction To Trading


    09:33 Using Elbow Trades As An Edge


    16:22 What Your Risk-Reward Looks Like

    20:34 Can You Make A "Mr. Consistency" System?

    25:29 What You Possess That Others May Also Have


    30:23 Why You Get Rusty When Taking A Summer Vacation


    35:56 How Important It Is To Constantly Innovate


    38:51 What Traits You Can See In Your Trainees


    45:10 The Single Greatest Rule In Trading


    51:35 How Do You Scale Positions?


    55:54 Which Traders Do You Think Will Survive The Next Decade?


    59:45 Trading Euro Stocks


    01:03:05 What The Next 30 Years Look Like For You


    01:08:30 Have You Had Your Trainees Outperform You?


    01:09:34 What Your Advice Is To Traders


    01:14:11 Where Can You Find Jason Berry

    Trading Disclaimer: Trading in the financial markets involves a risk of loss. Podcast episodes and other content produced by Chat With Traders are for informational or educational purposes only and do not constitute trading or investment recommendations or advice.
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    325 · Jack Schwager & George Coyle - The 3 Timeless Rules Shared by 100 Years of Market Wizards

    10/06/2026 | 1h 13 mins.
    Jack Schwager and George Coyle team up to look at what it takes to master the markets, combining classic wisdom with how modern financial markets work today.After studying top fund managers and over 100 years of market history, Jack and George wrote Market Wizards: The Next Generation to showcase today's best traders. These elite performers range from everyday traders who turned small accounts into millions to steady traders who almost never have a losing month. The secret to their success is matching their trading strategy perfectly with their personality.In this conversation, Jack and George reveal the core rules that great traders follow. They talk about unexpected strategies that surprised even them, like making huge profits trading agricultural futures or shorting small-cap stocks. They also discuss why basic chart reading works better for managing risk than company fundamentals, the reality of a tough work ethic, and why the most important lesson in trading is knowing when to step away from the screen.

    In this episode, we explore:·        How Jack Schwager and George Coyle started working together·        The three timeless trading rules that top traders have used for over a century·        The specific trading strategies that completely surprised Jack and George·        How to balance making big returns while protecting your trading account from large losses·        The main differences in managing risk between technical and fundamental analysis·        The story of an anonymous multi-millionaire musician who became a legendary trader·        The intense work ethic and personal sacrifices needed to reach the top level·        Final thoughts on why there is much more to a good life than just trading the stock market

    About The Guests:

    Jack Schwager:Jack is the author of the famous Market Wizard series, A Complete Guide to the Futures Markets, and Market Sense and Nonsense. He is a world-known expert on trading and financial markets, famous for showing the mindset and risk management habits of elite traders.George Coyle:George is the co-author of the new Market Wizards book. He is a writer, trader, system designer, money manager, and market strategist. After studying finance at The Ohio State University, he worked for 10 years in NYC at major hedge funds, including John A. Levin & Co. and Clovis Capital. He studied applied statistics at Columbia University, worked briefly with Victor Niederhoffer, and later served as a macro strategist in the US Virgin Islands. George also worked as the Chief Investment Officer for a family office in Chicago before returning to Ohio to run his own investment firm.

    Links + Resources:George Coyle: https://x.com/gfc4Jack Schwager: https://x.com/jackschwagerOrder Market Wizards: The Next Generation Book: https://harriman-house.com/authors/jack-d-schwager/market-wizards-the-next-generation/9781804093641

    Sponsor of Chat With Traders Podcast:Trade The Pool: http://www.tradethepool.com

    Time Stamps:Please note: Exact times will vary depending on current ads.
    00:00 The 3 Timeless Rules Shared by 100 Years of Market Wizards


    07:57 The First Market Wizards Book


    12:13 What George Coyle Was Trying to Solve


    15:59 Why It Is Better to Keep Things Simple Rather Than Complex


    22:19 Making Sure Your Strategy Fits Your Personality


    28:21 The Two Main Types of Profitable Traders

    31:55 Finding a Trading Edge in Today's Market Landscape

    37:16 Interviews That Challenged Jack and George's Core Beliefs

    42:51 Where the Younger Generation of Traders Succeeds

    47:07 Core Personality Traits of Market Wizards

    52:24 Understanding the Reality of Market Structures

    56:03 The Real Problem with Pure Fundamentals

    01:01:13 Jack's Most Memorable Moment from the Next Generation Interviews

    01:03:50 George's Most Memorable Moment from the Next Generation Interviews

    01:04:52 Where to Follow George Coyle and Jack Schwager Online

    Trading Disclaimer:Trading in the financial markets involves a risk of loss. Podcast episodes and other content produced by Chat With Traders are for informational or educational purposes only and do not constitute trading or investment recommendations or advice.

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    324 · Peter Robbins - The Hard Truths of a 50 Year Trading Career

    27/05/2026 | 58 mins.
    Peter Robbins is the author of The Trader’s Journey. He entered the financial markets 50 years ago with nothing but a dream, his friend, and a parental signature to trade the markets, surviving decades of tectonic shifts to navigate the transition from outcry trading to the digital age.

    After starting out at age 15 and carrying the weight of massive commission costs back in the 1970s, Peter developed a deeply disciplined, business first framework across multiple asset classes from day trading futures to position trading ETFs. Today, now retired, his edge is built on five decades of experience and an unwavering focus on self awareness, using strategy to outline his trades while deep psychological clarity gives him the execution resilience required to survive.

    In this conversation, Peter pulls back the curtain on his 50 Year Market Evolution, sharing the hard truths that allowed him to achieve true longevity in a game where most do not last. He breaks down the true mechanics of a trader’s edge, the absolute necessity of aligning strategy with personality, and how he transitioned from chasing the "Holy Grail" to mastering his own internal battle.

    In this episode, we explore:·        The Hard Truths of a 50 Year Trading Career·        The mechanics behind the two sides of a true Trader’s Edge·        Why it’s important to treat trading exactly like a serious business·        The importance of building an edge that matches your personality·       How Peter views position trading and selects industry leaders today·       Lessons learned from his early "Aha Moment" of learning to take small losses·       His advice for beginner traders caught up in false guru expectations

    About Peter Robbins:Peter is a veteran professional trader and mentor known for his remarkable market longevity and transparent approach. Starting his journey at just 15 years old, he has documented and shared his hard-earned insights across five decades of trading full-time, part-time, and in retirement. He specializes in longer-term position trading in ETFs and U.S. stocks, focusing heavily on trader psychology, limiting beliefs, and the structural discipline required for sustainable market success.

    Links + Resources:X (Twitter): https://x.com/prrobbinsAmazon (The Trader's Journey): https://www.amazon.com/Traders-Journey-Navigating-trading-success/dp/1804091669

    Sponsor of Chat With Traders Podcast:Trade The Pool: http://www.tradethepool.com

    Time Stamps:

    Please note: Exact times will vary depending on current ads.
    00:00 The Hard Truths of a 50 Year Trading Career
    05:20 Peter's Introduction into Trading at 15 Years Old
    12:15 The Real Reason Why Most Traders Fail
    16:58 The Aha Moment
    23:43 We're All Humans
    31:21 Why Most Failures Are Execution Failures
    35:46 Finding and Executing the Best Strategy for Your Personality
    38:05 Debunking the Limiting Belief "I Have to Work Hard to Make Money"
    44:21 Common Behaviors That Destroy Trading Accounts
    47:40 Stop Looking for the Holy Grail
    51:35 Where to Follow Peter Robbins and get his book The Trader’s Journey

    Trading Disclaimer: Trading in the financial markets involves a risk of loss. Podcast episodes and other content produced by Chat With Traders are for informational or educational purposes only and do not constitute trading or investment recommendations or advice. 


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