The Duct Tape Marketing Podcast

The rules of hiring have changed—and many small business owners are still playing by an outdated talent playbook. In this episode, John Jantsch sits down with Rob Levin to explore how to upskill employees for AI, navigate the ongoing talent shift, and build a future-ready team for small and midsize businesses. They discuss why culture and KPIs matter more than ever, how to redesign workflows with an AI-first mindset, and what it really takes to manage AI instead of being replaced by it. If you want to create a resilient organization that thrives amid rapid technological change, this conversation is your roadmap.
Today we discussed:
00:00 The New Talent Playbook Explained
05:43 The Hidden Talent Crisis for SMBs
07:12 AI Upskilling for Small Business Teams
12:00 Building Culture in Remote Teams
14:56 Over-Communication and KPI Clarity
17:30 Using AI to Design Smarter KPIs
20:28 AI, Job Security, and Team Buy-In
22:00 Book, Resources, and Final Thoughts
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Voice agents are moving from novelty to true revenue infrastructure—and businesses that treat them like strategic roles instead of talking FAQs are pulling ahead. In this episode, John Jantsch sits down with Ryan Murha of Yodify to explore how purpose-built voice AI agents can qualify leads, guide buyers, facilitate conversations, and even create new revenue streams for creators and brands. They break down how multi-layered LLM orchestration, brand voice alignment, and AI guardrails reduce hallucinations and improve real-world performance. If you're curious about using voice AI for business development, customer experience automation, or scalable personalization, this conversation shows why voice AI is finally ready for prime time.
Today we discussed:
00:00 Voice AI Fundamentals
02:32 Prompt Strategy, Personas, and Sales Roles
05:17 Critically Thinking Voice Agents
08:33 Voice Agent Framework
10:02 AI Transparency, Ethics, and Trust
11:43 Building and Testing AI Agents
14:59 Guardrails, Gemini, and Limitations
16:41 Integration, Monetization, and Pilots
19:59 Closing Thoughts and Contact Info
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Building a Business People Can't Imagine Losing starts with a bold idea: love is the most powerful force in business. In this episode, Marcus Buckingham explains why experience intelligence drives customer loyalty, employee engagement, and sustainable business growth. You'll learn how to design experiences that move people from satisfaction to true advocacy using a five-step emotional blueprint. If you want to create emotional connection, strengthen brand loyalty, and build a company customers and employees can't imagine a world without, this conversation shows you how.
Today we discussed:
00:00 Why Love Belongs in Business
03:25 Measuring Love and Experience Intelligence
07:22 Designing Consistent Experiences
11:57 Broken Experiences and Process Thinking
14:33 Designing Love Into Onboarding
18:22 Love as a Strategic Advantage
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Hiring ready-made talent is harder than ever, especially for small businesses competing in an AI-driven job market. In this episode, workplace futurist Alexandra Levit explains how work-based learning programs can help small businesses build a sustainable talent pipeline while addressing the youth employment crisis. Learn how apprenticeships, internships, and mentorship-driven workforce development strategies can close the skills gap, strengthen community ties, and improve employee retention. If you are looking for practical ways to recruit, train, and retain skilled workers without relying solely on traditional college degrees, this conversation offers a clear, actionable roadmap.
Today we discussed:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:23 Building a Talent Pipeline with WBL
00:00:56 What Is Work-Based Learning?
00:02:19 Youth Employment Crisis and Skills Gap
00:04:38 Trade Stigma and Shifting Labor Demand
00:07:08 GPS Education Partners Model
00:13:16 Starting Small: Employer Playbook
00:17:22 Certifications, AI Skills, and Metrics
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What if your biggest expense isn't your mortgage, but your income tax? In this episode, John Jantsch sits down with Jack Ojo, founder of Ojo Wealth Strategies and author of Two Smart to Be an Umpire, to break down how small business owners can legally reduce taxes and build real wealth. They cover how to reduce taxes as a small business owner, when to choose S corp vs LLC for tax savings, defined benefit pension plans for high income earners, Roth conversion strategies, and why maxing out your 401k still matters. If you're an entrepreneur looking for smarter tax planning strategies that protect against worst-case scenarios while accelerating long-term wealth, this episode delivers practical, actionable advice.
Today we discussed:
00:00 From Umpire to Wealth Advisor
03:07 Reinventing After a Career Setback
06:52 Biggest Tax Myths Business Owners Believe
10:30 What to Do After a Banner Revenue Year
12:57 Salary vs Distributions Explained
14:35 Multi-State Employees and Tax Strategy
16:36 Why 401k Plans Still Win
18:31 Paying Your Kids Through Your Business
21:07 How to Connect with Jack
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