It's About Payroll

Is payroll still just a back-office function? Not anymore. In this episode, Walt and Brian break down how payroll has transformed from a purely administrative role into a strategic, compliance-driven, employee-experience powerhouse — and where it's headed next.

🔑 What We Cover:

How payroll evolved from processing checks to influencing company strategy

The real story behind payroll cutoffs (and why we need to stop using the term loosely)

Earned wage access: perk or expectation? Is biweekly pay becoming obsolete?

AI in payroll — error detection, anomaly flags, and what AI still can't replace

The payroll "offensive lineman" analogy that hits different

Lightning round: Payroll hot takes — will paper checks disappear? Should payroll have a C-suite seat?

💡 Key Takeaways:

Payroll professionals are increasingly being pulled into executive-level conversations around compliance, data governance, and employee experience

Nearly 80% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck — pay speed is now a strategic priority

AI will enhance payroll, but human oversight and compliance expertise remain irreplaceable

Bad data = bad results, no matter how smart the AI

📚 Mentioned in This Episode:

Andy Valentine (previous episode)

Max van der Glees Bussink & "The Payroll Pivot" by Nick Day

Celery (AI payroll error detection), Paycom, iSolve, Career Learning, Nerd Outfitters (Troy)

CPT (Certified Payroll Technician) Course — first cohort launching June 1st! & more!

🎓 CPT Course Now Open!

Learn to process payroll inside a real payroll system before you ever get a job. Cohort 1 starts June 1st. On-demand version coming soon. Free Payroll Nerd T-shirt or hoodie included!

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In this episode of It’s About Payroll, Brian and Walt sit down with Andy Valentine, Key Account Director at Ebury, to talk about the often-overlooked side of payroll: making sure people actually receive their money. Andy explains that payroll accuracy is only half the battle. Once gross-to-net is calculated, companies still have to manage payment timing, banking data, foreign exchange, local payment rails, compliance checks, and global banking relationships.

The conversation covers why global payments fail, including incorrect beneficiary data, correspondent banking delays, country-specific payment requirements, and anti-money laundering compliance reviews. Andy also explains the importance of penny testing, payroll calendars, finance approvals, and working backward from payday to avoid missed payments.

Listeners will also hear about FX risk, dormant cash sitting in local accounts, payroll leakage, stablecoin, AI, fraud risks, and the growing need for payroll, finance, and treasury to work as one team. The big takeaway: payroll is not complete until employees are actually paid.

Brian and Walt are back with a (much-anticipated) Season 16 review!

In this episode, the hosts reflect on what made this season groundbreaking — from game-changing guests to major milestones for the Payroll Universe brand.

In this episode:

Word of the season: "Groundbreaking" vs. "Impactful" — and why both fit
The biggest surprise: just how many payroll-adjacent businesses are shaping the industry
The episode that changed everything: Trent from CotaPay and the death of payroll cutoff times
Melissa Walker (Sounder Benefits) and how employers can actually save money on benefits
Brian Smith (Top to Bottom Solutions) and the myth that benefits only cost you money
Behind the scenes: what goes into prepping each season that listeners never see
How the podcast has personally changed both hosts
Book updates: It's About Payroll has a new cover and formatting, and Walt's Bruised But Not Broken is a must-read
The Certified Payroll Technician (CPT) course launch on iSolved
This or That: Hip-Hop Edition 🎤
Resources mentioned:
It's About Payroll (book) – digital copy on sale for $2.99
Bruised But Not Broken by Walt
CotaPay | Sounder Benefits | Top to Bottom Solutions | Payroll Like a Boss
Certified Payroll Technician (CPT) course – payrolluniverse.com

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🔥 Is your payroll career stuck on autopilot? In this episode of It's About Payroll, Brian and Walt break down the real payroll career arc — from entry-level grind to strategic leadership — and the stage nobody talks about: the waiting period.
Whether you're just starting out, feeling stagnant, or ready to level up, this episode is your roadmap.

In this episode, we cover:
✅ The 4 stages of the payroll career journey
✅ Entry-level mistakes that hold payroll pros back
✅ How to move from "task-heavy" to strategic payroll leadership
✅ The dangerous waiting period — and how to survive it
✅ Why more money doesn't always mean less stress at the top
✅ The difference between being a payroll manager vs. a payroll LEADER
✅ AI layoffs in 2026: What 100,000+ tech job cuts mean for payroll pros
✅ Why 53% of employees would leave over ONE payroll mistake
✅ "I Should Have Known Better" — payroll war stories you'll relate to

💡 Key Insight: Payroll accuracy isn't just an operational issue — it's a retention strategy. One mistake can trigger turnover.

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In Episode 204 of It’s About Payroll, Brian welcomes two powerhouse voices in payroll leadership: John Bernatovicz, founder of Willory, author, keynote speaker, podcast host, and HR/payroll leader, and Tammy Gillenwater, CPP, senior consultant at Willory, speaker, and advocate for the payroll profession. Together, John and Tammy discuss their upcoming book, Payroll Like a Boss, scheduled for release on April 28, 2026, during Global Payroll Week.

The conversation explores how payroll professionals often feel invisible, why payroll must be seen as a strategic business function, and how leaders can develop payroll teams beyond gross-to-net processing and tax compliance. Tammy shares her journey of “falling into payroll” and later realizing it was a true career, while John explains how the “Like a Boss” concept grew from HR leadership into a payroll movement.

Listeners will gain encouragement, practical perspective, and a renewed understanding of payroll’s role in business strategy, workforce planning, compliance, technology, and organizational impact.