Long Game: a Heated Rivalry Podcast

Declan and Silvan are joined by one of the most talked-about voices in MM romance.

In this special interview, we're joined by bestselling author Scarlett Drake to discuss the phenomenal success of Oleander, her haunting queer reimagining of Great Expectations. 

Scarlett shares the twelve-year journey that took her from posting fanfiction on Wattpad to becoming one of the genre's most celebrated independent authors, and how self-publishing changed her life.

We take a deep dive into Oleander, exploring the inspiration behind the novel, its gothic atmosphere, the symbolism of the title, and the complex relationship between Jude and Cas. Scarlett opens up about writing morally complicated characters, depicting trauma responsibly, and why she believes Cass deserves empathy despite his flaws. We also discuss readers' divided reactions to the ending, the challenges of adapting classic stories for a modern queer audience, and the lasting influence of The Song of Achilles and A Little Life.

Scarlett also gives us an exciting first look at her next project: a dark, gothic MM retelling of a popular classic. We chat about her writing process, visualising scenes like films, balancing creativity with a day job, and her advice for aspiring authors hoping to publish their own stories.

There may be some spoilers when discussing the characters, so join us for a insightful conversation with Scarlett. 

The next episode of the Long Game podcast will be released on Sunday 16th August 2026.

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Declan and Silvan break down the Heated Rivalry book review in part 11. We dive into one of the most talked-about chapters and it is every bit as steamy as its reputation suggests.

We explore how Rachel Reid balances intimacy with emotional depth, discussing why these scenes feel so much more than just spice. From playful video game rivalry and unforgettable chemistry to conversations about consent, vulnerability and communication, we unpack what makes this chapter such a turning point for Shane and Ilya.

We also compare the book with the TV adaptation, looking at the emotional weight behind Ilya's fears, Shane's growing certainty, and the subtle differences that completely change how key moments land. Along the way, we discuss masculinity, queer relationships, hookup culture, and why Rachel Reid's writing continues to evolve as the novel progresses.

We reach one of the most emotional milestones in the entire story as Shane and Ilya finally say the words readers have been waiting years to hear. We break down the meaning behind their confession, the heartbreaking conversation about Ilya's mother, and why this chapter perfectly captures the blend of humour, tenderness and emotional honesty.

The next episode of the Long Game podcast will be released on Sunday 9th August 2026.

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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Heated Rivalry Book Review
01:27 Exploring Emotional and Physical Intimacy
04:58 The Importance of Shared Interests in Relationships
08:22 The Evolution of Writing in Heated Rivalry
12:11 Consent and Communication in Intimate Relationships
16:11 The Dynamics of Hookup Culture
19:12 Character Depth and Self-Perception
21:17 Navigating Emotional Vulnerability
25:02 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
30:12 The Butterfly Effect in Drafting Decisions
34:41 Family Dynamics and Their Impact
38:33 Testing Boundaries in Relationships
45:01 Confessions of Love and Vulnerability
52:02 Humor and Intimacy in Relationships
53:06 Creating Meaningful Connections Through Charity

Declan and Silvan are at The Cottage in Part 10 of our Heated Rivalry book review.
We unpack one of the funniest chapters in the novel, from eight burgers and "stupid Canadian wolfbird" to the effortless comedy Rachel Reid gives Ilya throughout these scenes. Beneath the laughter lies one of the book's most important emotional turning points.

We explore Shane's hesitation about coming out, what it means for Ilya to feel like a secret and how Rachel Reid captures the complicated balance between love, fear and vulnerability. We also compare these moments with Jacob Tierney's television adaptation, discussing why certain scenes feel even more powerful on screen and how subtle changes in body language transform the emotional impact.

The conversation also dives into Ilya's lifelong role as a caretaker, the heartbreaking story of his mother, and why we found ourselves wanting even more of his perspective during these pivotal moments. Along the way, we debate whether Heated Rivalry is ultimately Shane's story or whether Ilya deserves more narrative space.

Plus, we share our thoughts after our first Belfast listener meetup and thank everyone who came along to make it such a memorable day.

The next episode of the Long Game podcast will be released on Sunday 2nd August 2026.

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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Cottage Chapter
02:31 Humor and Levity in the Story
05:10 Adaptation Insights: Book vs. TV Show
08:11 Creative Trust in Adaptations
09:25 Superhero Fatigue and Audience Expectations
09:44 The Need for Quality LGBTQ+ Stories
10:34 Character Dynamics: Shane and Ilya
10:46 Exploring Shane's Internal Struggles
13:44 The Impact of Micro-Rejections
16:29 Ilya's Caretaking Role and Its Consequences
24:33 The Caretaker Role of Ilya
27:13 Contrasting Upbringings: Ilya vs. Shane
30:15 Character Development: The Evolution of Shane
35:00 Emotional Intimacy vs. Physical Connection
39:18 Navigating Grief and Vulnerability
43:55 The Balance of Humor and Seriousness
47:58 The Writer's Responsibility: Depth in Storytelling
57:29 Community Connection: Reflections on the Meetup

Declan and Silvan break down the start of Shane and Ilya’s cottage escape in Part 9 of our Heated Rivary Book review. This week we are joined by Bri, who is a long-time listener of the podcast.

Together, we explore why this chapter feels like such a turning point in their relationship, from the emotional significance of Shane inviting Ilya into his most personal space to the honesty, vulnerability and quiet intimacy that begin to replace years of secrecy. 

We also discuss Scott Hunter's impact on Shane and Ilya's future, the differences between Rachel Reid's novel and the TV adaptation, and why the later chapters of Heated Rivalry showcase some of Reid's strongest writing.

As always, the conversation takes plenty of unexpected detours, including nostalgic pop culture references, discussions about Rachel Reid's brilliant blend of romance, humour and spice and one surprisingly passionate debate that inspired the title of the podcasrt episode. This has us questioning whether one particular scene in the book is actually believable.

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The next episode of the Long Game podcast will be released on Sunday 26th July 2026.

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Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:31 Discussion of Chapter 23 Overview
03:33 Character Development and Dialogue Analysis
07:45 Exploring Relationship Dynamics
11:11 Significance of Ilya's Commitment
14:50 Self-Defense Mechanisms in Relationships
18:17 Shane's Character and Hockey Obsession
21:00 Contextualizing Scott and Kip's Relationship
23:22 Ilya's Bravery and Public Persona
26:33 Exploring Racy Scenes in the Chapter
27:27 Evolving Relationships: Intimacy and Humor
31:58 Exploring Sexual Dynamics in MM Romance
41:10 Symbolism of the Cottage: A Reflection of Self
45:50 Emotional Intimacy: The Journey of Connection

Declan and Silvan dive into Part 8 of the Heated Rivalry book review.

We explore how Rachel Reid uses crisis as the catalyst for emotional growth in Shane’s injury. We compare the novel with the TV adaptation, unpack why Shane and Ilya react so differently in each version, and discuss the psychology behind fear, avoidance, and the moment Ilya realises he cannot walk away.

As always, we go off on a few tangents, like why third-act breakups frustrate us, whether redemption after cheating can ever work in romance, and how therapists naturally gravitate towards different characters. We also reflect on why finding the right therapist matters, how sensory memories shape our emotions, and why Shane's relationship with hockey changes as his life evolves.

We finally reach one of the most iconic moments in the series, Scott and Kip's iconic kiss. We talk about why this scene carries so much emotional weight, what it means for Shane and Ilya's future, and why a single act of courage can create hope for everyone who follows.

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The next episode of the Long Game podcast will be released on Sunday 19th July 2026.

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Find Declan: 
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Listen to the Podcast on:
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Listen to Silvan’s ‘Silvates’ podcast here:
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Heated Rivalry Podcast
01:44 Character Development and Emotional Conflicts
06:47 Plot Devices in MM Romance
10:43 The Impact of Cheating in Romance
15:51 Shane's Injury: Book vs. TV Show
18:41 Therapeutic Perspectives on Characters
25:50 Concluding Thoughts on Relationships and Conflict
26:16 The Complexity of Relationships
30:44 Catalysts for Change
34:38 Growth Through Time
38:25 The Power of Touch
46:12 Doubts and Fears
54:26 Hope and Sacrifice