The Engineering Room with Dave Farley

In this episode of The Engineering Room, Dave Farley talks with with Gene Kim, the bestselling author of "The Phoenix Project," "The Unicorn Project," and "Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and DevOps." They discuss the controversial topic of "Vibe Coding," a concept Gene explored in his recent collaboration with Steve Yegge. While Dave initially described Vibe Coding as "one of the worst ideas of 2025," this conversation unpacks whether AI actually represents a fundamental shift in how we build software.

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Gene Kim LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/realgenekim/

Gene Kim ''X'' (formerly "'Twitter") https://x.com/@RealGeneKim

Equal Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,000 experienced technology consultants globally. They increase the pace of innovation by using modern software engineering practices that embrace Continuous Delivery, Security, and Operability from the outset ➡️ https://bit.ly/3ASy8n0

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📖 "The Software Developers’ Guidebook Amazon ➡️ https://amzn.to/4f9ozFK ebook version ➡️ https://leanpub.com/softwaredevelopersguidebook

📖 The original, award-winning "Continuous Delivery" book by Dave Farley and Jez Humble ➡️ https://amzn.to/2WxRYmx

📖 "Continuous Delivery Pipelines" by Dave Farley Paperback ➡️ https://amzn.to/3gIULlA ebook version ➡️ https://leanpub.com/cd-pipeline

What does it truly take to build a high-performing software team? Is it about hiring the legendary "10x engineer," or is it about crafting the right environment?
In this episode of The Engineering Room, Dave Farley is joined by Charity Majors, CTO and Co-founder of Honeycomb and co-author of Observability Engineering, for an unvarnished look at the reality of modern software development.

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Charity Majors LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/charity-majors/

Charity Majors Website https://charity.wtf/

Equal Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,000 experienced technology consultants globally. They increase the pace of innovation by using modern software engineering practices that embrace Continuous Delivery, Security, and Operability from the outset ➡️ https://bit.ly/3ASy8n0

Only Patreon Supporters get to see the FULL VIDEO Episodes of The Engineering Room, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/c/continuousdelivery

📖 "The Software Developers’ Guidebook Amazon ➡️ https://amzn.to/4f9ozFK ebook version ➡️ https://leanpub.com/softwaredevelopersguidebook

📖 The original, award-winning "Continuous Delivery" book by Dave Farley and Jez Humble ➡️ https://amzn.to/2WxRYmx

📖 "Continuous Delivery Pipelines" by Dave Farley Paperback ➡️ https://amzn.to/3gIULlA ebook version ➡️ https://leanpub.com/cd-pipeline

In this episode of The Engineering Room, Dave Farley speaks with Sam Newman, renowned author of "Building Microservices" and "Monolith to Microservices," about distributed systems, architectural decisions, and the future of software development.

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Sam Newman on "X" (formerly "Twitter"): https://x.com/samnewman?lang=en

📖 "Building Microservices" 1st Ed., Sam Newman: https://samnewman.io/books/building_microservices/

📖 "Building Microservices" 2nd Ed., Sam Newman: https://samnewman.io/books/building_microservices_2nd_edition/

Equal Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,000 experienced technology consultants globally. They increase the pace of innovation by using modern software engineering practices that embrace Continuous Delivery, Security, and Operability from the outset ➡️ https://bit.ly/3ASy8n0

Only Patreon Supporters get to see the FULL VIDEO Episodes of The Engineering Room, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/c/continuousdelivery

📖 "The Software Developers’ Guidebook Amazon ➡️ https://amzn.to/4f9ozFK ebook version ➡️ https://leanpub.com/softwaredevelopersguidebook

📖 The original, award-winning "Continuous Delivery" book by Dave Farley and Jez Humble ➡️ https://amzn.to/2WxRYmx

📖 "Continuous Delivery Pipelines" by Dave Farley Paperback ➡️ https://amzn.to/3gIULlA ebook version ➡️ https://leanpub.com/cd-pipeline

Join Dave Farley in conversation with Daniel Terhorst-North, the creator of Behavior-Driven Development (BDD) and pioneering voice in agile software development. In this wide-ranging discussion,
Dan shares insights from his time at ThoughtWorks, where he helped establish many practices now considered standard in modern software engineering.
Whether you're interested in improving your development practices, leading organizational change, or understanding the historical evolution of agile methodologies, this conversation offers valuable perspectives from one of the field's most influential practitioners.

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Dan Terhorst-North's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tastapod/?originalSubdomain=uk

Dan Terhorst-North's Website: https://goalwards.co/

Equal Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,000 experienced technology consultants globally. They increase the pace of innovation by using modern software engineering practices that embrace Continuous Delivery, Security, and Operability from the outset ➡️ https://bit.ly/3ASy8n0

Only Patreon Supporters get to see the FULL VIDEO Episodes of The Engineering Room, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/c/continuousdelivery

📖 "The Software Developers’ Guidebook Amazon ➡️ https://amzn.to/4f9ozFK ebook version ➡️ https://leanpub.com/softwaredevelopersguidebook

📖 The original, award-winning "Continuous Delivery" book by Dave Farley and Jez Humble ➡️ https://amzn.to/2WxRYmx

📖 "Continuous Delivery Pipelines" by Dave Farley Paperback ➡️ https://amzn.to/3gIULlA ebook version ➡️ https://leanpub.com/cd-pipelines

In this episode, Dave Farley explores how SpareBank One transformed their software development approach with Ola Hast (Developer) and Asgaut Mjølne Söderbom (Senior Developer). Working at Norway's second-largest banking alliance serving 1.2 million users, they reveal how pair programming became absolutely essential to achieving true continuous delivery.

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The Engineering Room is sponsored by Equal Experts.

Equal Experts is a product software development consultancy with a network of over 1,000 experienced technology consultants globally. They increase the pace of innovation by using modern software engineering practices that embrace Continuous Delivery, Security, and Operability from the outset ➡️ https://bit.ly/3ASy8n0

Only Patreon Supporters get to see the FULL VIDEO Episodes of The Engineering Room, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/c/continuousdelivery

Dave's NEW BOOK is OUT NOW: https://leanpub.com/softwaredevelopersguidebook

Supporting Links: Ola & Asgaut's QCon talk "Continuous Delivery Is Not Possible without Pair Programming": https://www.infoq.com/presentations/cd-pair-programming/ SINTEF

Research into Pair Programming in the Bank: https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.19511