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The Growth in Educational Leadership Podcast

Orla Dempsey
The Growth in Educational Leadership Podcast
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    E50: Brien Kearns - From HR to School Principal: Authentic Leadership, Reflection, and Doing Better Interviews

    31/03/2026 | 50 mins.
    In this episode of the Growth in Educational Leadership Podcast, I interview Brien Kearns, administrative principal of Castletown National School in Navan, County Meath, about his career from an early HR role in the Department of Justice to nearly 20 years in teaching and becoming a principal in 2020 just before COVID.
    Brien explains how HR experience shaped his approach to relationship-building, communication, professionalism, and handling grievances, and how principals spend much of their time on โ€œmanaging the organisation.โ€ He discusses hiring for fit and strengths, supporting staff at different life stages, and the value of reflection through school self-evaluation and critical friends.ย 
    Brien shares lessons from failing principal interviews before succeeding on his third attempt, emphasising credible, evidence-based answers, preparation, feedback, and perseverance. He advises using AI carefully without losing authenticity, and stresses following policy, circulars, and frameworks for fairness, trust, and protection.ย 
    He closes with advice for new principals: be genuine, empower staff, seek help, show humility, and accept ongoing learning and imposter syndrome.
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:23 From Teacher to Principal
    02:28 HR Roots in Justice
    05:31 Relationships Drive Schools
    08:17 Hiring and Staff Fit
    11:02 Duty of Care for Staff
    12:38 Learning From Interview Failure
    17:13 Postgrad and Answer Structure
    18:36 Advice After Rejection
    21:02 Feedback for Middle Leaders
    23:12 Self Awareness as a Leader
    23:42 Growth Through Change
    24:31 Learning From Failure
    25:36 Reflection Habits
    26:51 School Self Evaluation
    28:12 Critical Friends Network
    29:37 Job Applications Lessons
    33:23 AI Without Losing Voice
    35:54 Policies And Frameworks
    42:26 New Principals Advice
    44:42 Imposter Syndrome Reality
    45:43 Final Encouragement
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    E49: Jill Oโ€™Meara - Confidence Is Attractive: Personal Branding Photography for Educators

    24/03/2026 | 44 mins.
    On the Growth in Educational Leadership Podcast, host Orla interviews photographer Jill Oโ€™Meara about personal branding and headshot photography for professionals, including ambitious teachers seeking leadership roles. Jill explains how she creates a safe, guided studio experience in Enfield, Co Meath - optional makeover, posing, real-time photo review, attention to detail, and tailored planning around clientsโ€™ colors and personality - to help clients feel grounded, confident, and accurately represented. They discuss the risks of outdated or unrepresentative images, the many uses for professional photos (LinkedIn, CVs, WhatsApp, newsletters, podcasts, speaking, awards, editorial, school websites), and Jillโ€™s on-location staff headshot work. Jill shares her background in architecture, the importance of body language and โ€œlistening eyes,โ€ and her takeaway: โ€œdo it anyway.โ€
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:36 Jill Studio Experience
    01:52 Networking Photographer Life
    03:14 Headshots And Authenticity
    04:50 Teachers Confidence Online
    06:44 Where To Use Photos
    08:56 Personal Brand Explained
    10:01 On Location Team Headshots
    11:42 Architecture To Photography
    13:07 Tailored Shoots Planning
    17:07 Helping Camera Shy Clients
    20:41 Clients Return And Legacy
    22:41 Ripple Effects of Leadership
    24:16 Home Self vs Work Self
    25:36 Family Shoots and Studio Fun
    27:43 Know Your Audience
    28:41 Body Language in Portraits
    30:51 Grounded Confidence on Camera
    33:48 Interview Presence and Nuance
    35:44 Building Real Confidence
    38:02 Brand Photos for Opportunities
    41:15 Do It Anyway
    42:21 How to Book Jill
    43:23 Final Thanks and Wrap
    CONTACT JILL
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jill-o-meara-photography/
    Website: https://www.jillomeara.ie/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jillomearaphotography/ย 
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    E48: Nick Woolley on Building Coaching Cultures in Schools with Inclusive Futures Academy

    17/03/2026 | 53 mins.
    In this Growth in Educational Leadership podcast episode, I interview Nick Woolley, a former secondary maths teacher and now full-time coach and coach trainer, co-director of the Inclusive Futures Academy.ย 
    Nick describes discovering coaching on a leadership course, becoming an ICF-accredited coach, and returning to education after initially trying to leave the sector, now coaching students through senior leaders.ย 
    He explains Inclusive Futures (a not-for-profit CIC focused on social mobility) and the Academyโ€™s ICF-accredited, phased coach training model that can be tiered across school roles to build a coaching culture, including a recent project training Year 10/transition-year students to mentor younger peers.ย 
    Key themes include coaching as effective communication, active listening, silence, curiosity over advice-giving, contracting (โ€œwhat do you want from this conversation?โ€), and transparent leadership to gain buy-in during change.
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:52 Nickโ€™s Teaching to Coaching Journey
    02:22 Building Inclusive Futures Academy
    05:55 Coaching Skills for Schools
    06:52 Power of Listening and Silence
    11:36 Training Pathways and Offerings
    17:01 Ripple Effect and Hidden Impact
    20:48 Leading Change Through Buy-In
    26:03 When Change Isnโ€™t Optional
    27:03 Invite Staff Input
    27:26 Transparency Builds Trust
    28:49 Director Caught Middle
    30:50 Coaching for Leaders
    32:09 Loneliness at the Top
    33:11 Coaching Skills Teachers Have
    35:25 Coaching Not Advice
    37:42 Clarify What You Need
    39:05 Beware Scripted Coaching
    40:54 Empower Not Depend
    41:46 Permission to Mentor
    43:53 Contracting Conversations
    47:48 Feeling Heard Exercise
    49:39 Change Needs Context
    51:04 How to Contact Nick
    51:59 Final Thanks and Wrap Up
    CONTACT DETAILS
    Nick's website: https://inclusivefutures.co.uk/
    Email Nick here:ย  [email protected]
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickwoolleycoach/ย 
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    E 47: Xiaoxiao Mulhall - Inclusive Growth Through Global Connections: Leadership Lessons

    10/03/2026 | 37 mins.
    I interview Xiaoxiao Mulhall, current president of Network Kildare (part of Network Ireland) and founder of Sinoventures, about inclusive growth through global connections and building deeper member relationships. Xiaoxiao explains Network Kildareโ€™s role as a womenโ€™s network supporting business owners, employees, and aspiring entrepreneurs, highlighting guided networking, joint events with other branches, and plans to increase visibility via PR, LinkedIn, Instagram, and personal branding.ย 
    Drawing on her experience helping Irish and European businesses enter the Chinese market, she discusses fear, research, cultural understanding, protecting brand and regulatory alignment, and taking calculated risks. She shares leadership insights: confidence follows action, authenticity in public speaking, preparation, delegation, and prioritisation, and emphasises that women and teachers are already leaders.ย 
    She previews a Chinese New Year event and explains how to join via NetworkIreland.ie or [email protected].
    Timestamps
    00:48 What Network Kildare Does
    01:41 Theme Inclusive Global Growth
    04:05 Going International Without Fear
    09:02 Confidence Follows Action
    10:48 Why She Said Yes to Becoming VP
    12:02 Personal Branding and LinkedIn
    15:58 Time Management and Delegation
    19:48 Recognising Everyday Leadership
    22:09 Public Speaking and Authenticity
    24:37 Interviews and Asking Why
    28:44 Member Research and Inclusion Events
    31:52 Chinese New Year Celebration
    34:11 Closing Advice and How to Join
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    E46: Cathal Twaddle on Sport, Inclusion, HSCL Trust-Building, and High-Performance Habits in Education

    05/03/2026 | 37 mins.
    In this episode of the Growth and Educational Leadership Podcast, I interview teacher and HSCL liaison officer Cathal Twaddle about his career milestones, psychology studies, and leadership learning shaped by sport. Cathal describes an early prison service role and how a manager linked team sport to resilience and teamwork, which became a lens for his teaching and leadership.ย 
    He discusses โ€œtwo roadsโ€ moments influenced by his parentsโ€™ limited educational opportunities and his fatherโ€™s dementia, emphasising reflection and ambition.ย 
    Cathal defines high performance as consistently doing simple, logical tasks, applying this to teaching and student voice. He explains inclusion as broader than additional needs, and outlines HSCL work supporting families, including homelessness, by building trust through visibility, clear communication, and demystifying attendance processes.ย 
    He also shares interview strategies, networking, transferable teacher skills, and reverse-engineering leadership goals.
    TIMESTAMPS
    01:04 Prison Service Beginnings
    02:47 Sport Mindset and Two Roads
    06:34 From Coaching to Teaching
    10:03 High Performance Basics
    12:14 Student Voice Made Simple
    15:29 Inclusion Beyond SEN
    17:41 HSCL Role and Homelessness
    20:09 Building Trust With Parents
    23:52 Interview Lessons From Sport
    27:24 Career Advice and Reflection
    31:41 Networking and Transferable Skills
    33:57 Reverse Engineering Leadership Goals
    36:38 Final Thanks and Wrap Up

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๐˜ผ๐™ง๐™š ๐™ฎ๐™ค๐™ช ๐™ง๐™š๐™–๐™™๐™ฎ ๐™ฉ๐™ค ๐™ก๐™š๐™–๐™™ ๐™–๐™ฉ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ฃ๐™š๐™ญ๐™ฉ ๐™ก๐™š๐™ซ๐™š๐™ก? ๐™„๐™› ๐™ฎ๐™ค๐™ช ๐™–๐™ง๐™š, ๐™ฉ๐™๐™ž๐™จ ๐™ž๐™จ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ฅ๐™ค๐™™๐™˜๐™–๐™จ๐™ฉ ๐™›๐™ค๐™ง ๐™ฎ๐™ค๐™ช!Through my recruitment work in the education and public sectors, I see trends emerging amongst the 1000s of candidates I've helped to date - from โžก๏ธ career blindspots toโžก๏ธ long, complicated interview questions andโžก๏ธhow confidence holds so many teachers back.Because I understand the system that teachers work in, the language they use, the challenges they face, and the frameworks that shape education, this podcast (and the way I work) means that teachers grow professionally as quickly as possible!Combining mindset with strategy, I'll be sharing ways to sell yourself better and how to make the Looking at Our School Document work for you. I'll also share insider stories from experts in education and beyond. ๐Ÿ”ฅDon't forget to rate, review and subscribe to the podcast for weekly career and leadership tips.Owner: Orla Dempsey
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