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The Home Service Expert Podcast

Tommy Mello: $200 Million Founder|Forbes, Inc., Entrepreneur Columnist
The Home Service Expert Podcast
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  • The Home Service Expert Podcast

    Why This 22-Year-Old Selling AI Just Warned Every Home Service Owner

    28/07/2026 | 1h 3 mins.
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    George Paladichuk built a million-dollar AI company at 22 — and he's the first person selling AI who will tell you NOT to hand it your phones. His platform, NaiL, sits behind 100+ franchise locations and catches nearly 1,000 calls a day for Superior Fence & Rail alone — recovering $2.5 million a month in revenue from calls that would have hit voicemail. In this episode, Tommy sits down with George to break down where AI actually belongs in your call flow, the businesses that should never use it, the disclosure test that quadrupled hang-ups, what it really costs, and the three pitfalls that kill AI rollouts. Tommy even calls George's AI live on air — see if you can tell.
    💎 Top 5 Takes for this Episode!
    AI is your safety net, not your first touch. Booking rates AND customer satisfaction go up when AI backs up an A-player on the phones — not when it replaces them.
    Missed calls are a hidden metric. No dashboard reports them — and for one franchise they were worth $2.5M a month.
    Some calls should never go to a machine. Restoration, funeral homes — nobody in a moment of distress wants to hear a robot.
    Don't lead with "this is an AI." Announcing it up front 4X'd hang-ups in 30 seconds. Solve the caller's problem first — 80% never notice.
    Solve the problem before you build the product. That one shift took George from $4K to $50K a month in 90 days.
    ⏱️ Chapters
    0:00 — "The last thing they want to hear is a robot"
    0:40 — Who is George: 22, CU Boulder, founder of NaiL
    2:15 — Wholesale real estate at 18 → digital marketing → a $1M AI company
    7:45 — Superior Fence & Rail: recovering $2.5M/month in missed calls
    10:15 — The hidden metric: ~1,000 missed calls a day
    12:45 — Don't fire your CSRs: AI as the safety net, not the first touch
    17:25 — When AI is the WRONG answer: restoration & funeral homes
    20:30 — Overseas agents vs AI: cost, coverage, and one-call-at-a-time
    23:30 — "The worst AI will ever be": how fast the voices got good
    25:55 — Outbound calling, TCPA compliance, and why SMS wins
    30:35 — The next 2–3 years of AI receptionists
    32:40 — Should you disclose it's AI? The 4X hang-up test
    36:15 — LIVE DEMO: Tommy calls the AI
    38:45 — Where to start + pitfall #1: solve the problem, not the technology
    43:00 — Pilot programs: 30–60 days, build to launch
    46:00 — Why young female voices win
    47:40 — What it costs: $10–20K pilots, ~$997/location/month
    50:00 — Advice to young builders: find the problem first, then market the hell out of it
    54:15 — What's next for NaiL + how to reach George
    57:20 — Why rollouts fail: vision, results, and a spokesperson
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    Learn more about NaiL here: https://usenail.com Contact George: george@usenail.com
    George Paladichuk is the founder of NaiL, an AI voice receptionist platform for home service franchises. A 22-year-old CU Boulder graduate, he went from wholesale real estate at 18 to running a digital marketing agency through college to building NaiL, which now serves 100+ franchise locations. His biggest client, Superior Fence & Rail, recovers $2.5 million a month in revenue from missed calls handled by the platform.
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  • The Home Service Expert Podcast

    He Walked Away From 2 Shark Tank Offers (Sales 40x'd After)

    23/07/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
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    Kent Yoshimura walked away from two Shark Tank offers because they came in under the number he set before entering the tank — then became the only founder in show history to come back and close a deal, with KIND founder Daniel Lubetzky. The NeuroGum CEO breaks down the Ring doorbell playbook for selling home services, the 4 Es of marketing, and why sleep is the most underrated CEO skill. Plus Tommy reveals the $400M number and the growth comp that stunned his banker.
    🕐 TIMESTAMPS
    0:00:00 Cold Open
    0:00:32 Guest Intro
    0:06:46 Art Meets Business
    0:11:49 Sleep Tips
    0:15:47 Cold Plunge Science
    0:17:19 Influencer Marketing
    0:18:24 The Ring Playbook
    0:21:26 AI And Jobs
    0:30:28 Rapid Fire Advice
    0:32:49 The Ryan Story
    0:34:49 Partnership Rules
    0:37:42 Mental Discipline
    0:47:43 Shark Tank Story
    0:50:40 The $400M Reveal
    0:57:43 The Rat Experiment
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  • The Home Service Expert Podcast

    Why 2 Employees Beat 6 (The $400K Hiring Math)

    22/07/2026 | 1h 48 mins.
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    Cameron Herold is back for round two — the man who scaled 1-800-GOT-JUNK from $2M to $106M in six years breaks down why two A-players beat six average hires, the exact matrix Jack Welch used to decide who stays, and the profit math that tells you whether you should even own a home service business. If you're stuck between $3M and $10M, this one's for you.
     
    🕐 TIMESTAMPS
    0:00:00 Cold Open
    0:02:26 Idea Capture
    0:08:30 Vivid Vision
    0:11:19 The HVAC Trap
    0:19:19 Red KPIs Only
    0:25:14 Expansion Warning
    0:31:05 Interview Training Gap
    0:40:37 Jack Welch Matrix
    0:48:51 A-Player Math
    0:52:12 The Doubt Rule
    1:01:51 Entrepreneur Reality
    1:13:54 Profit Over Revenue
    1:17:28 P&L Basics
    1:26:15 Call Center Rule
    1:44:44 Books And Contact
     
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  • The Home Service Expert Podcast

    The Content Excuse Keeping Home Service Owners Invisible | Gary Vee

    17/07/2026 | 40 mins.
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    Tommy Mello sits down with Gary Vaynerchuk, founder of VaynerMedia and VaynerX, for a conversation every home service owner needs to hear. Gary breaks down how he transformed his dad's New Jersey liquor store into Wine Library, why he saw the internet coming in 1995, and what he looks for before investing in any company today. He explains kind candor, the feedback system he trains 2,700 employees on, and answers the 10 million dollar question about starting over from zero. Then Tommy runs him through a true or false speed round on the biggest social media myths, where Gary explains why blaming the algorithm is costing you views, subscribers, and money.
    🕐 TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 Intro
    04:45 Father's Lessons
    09:14 Store Transformation
    13:10 Internet Moment
    16:45 Jockey and Horse
    19:56 Kind Candor
    22:59 The $10M Question
    26:06 Exit Philosophy
    29:20 Sandcastle Philosophy
    34:35 Myth Speed Round
    00:53 Was Gary Vee born with business talent?
    02:54 Do immigrants have an advantage in business?
    04:45 What did Gary Vee learn from his father?
    06:25 What was Gary Vee paid at his dad's liquor store?
    09:14 How did Gary Vee grow Wine Library?
    13:10 When did Gary Vee first see the internet?
    16:45 What does Gary Vee look for before investing?
    19:56 What is kind candor at VaynerMedia?
    22:59 What would Gary Vee do with 10 million dollars?
    35:15 Does taking a posting break reset the algorithm?
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  • The Home Service Expert Podcast

    He Built Five Companies Then Admitted He Should Have Built One Better (LIVE)

    15/07/2026 | 1h 5 mins.
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    Adam Shampaine went from Capitol Hill to CEO of HomeFix, a $68 million home improvement company, and then built his own supply company, finance company, and window brand. In this episode, Tommy Mello and Adam break down how vertical integration creates a moat competitors can't copy, why company DNA decides which growth channels actually work, how a door-to-door canvasser can earn $300K a year, and the one lesson Adam learned from building five companies: he would be richer if he had built one better. If you run a home service or home improvement business, this is the conversation on canvassing, financing, and focus.
     
    🕐 TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 Episode Open
    01:52 Capitol Hill Origin
    07:20 Part-Time to Sales
    12:20 Always The People
    18:00 Solar and Supply Stack
    23:20 Pure Finance Origin
    30:30 Finance Platform Growth
    37:20 Company DNA Canvas
    43:50 Canvassing As Math
    48:50 Canvas vs Demand Leads
    54:12 Brand Power vs Canvas
    1:02:02 One Thing Regret
     
    Questions this episode answers:
    01:52 How did a Capitol Hill staffer end up in home improvement sales?
    12:20 Is it the market or the salespeople when a sales territory fails?
    18:00 Why would a home improvement company build its own supply chain?
    23:20 Should contractors start their own consumer finance company?
    30:30 How does in-house customer financing actually make money?
    37:20 Can you change your company's culture and business model?
    40:50 Why do canvassing consultants fail at most companies?
    43:50 How much can a door-to-door canvasser make per year?
    48:50 What is the difference between canvas leads and demand leads?
    54:12 Does brand marketing beat door-to-door canvassing?
     
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About The Home Service Expert Podcast
The Home Service Expert podcast is the No. 1 podcast for ambitious home service entrepreneurs, whether they are in plumbing, HVAC or another niche. In this show, Tommy Mello, a $200M business founder, will talk with the best entrepreneurs and experts in the home service industry and beyond, to share insights that have made them successful: from the newest marketing tools to the best scaling strategies. Previous podcast guests include Terry Nicholson (former national trainer of NYSE-listed home services company), Craig Smith (President of HomeAdvisor, a home services marketplace valued at $2B+), Cameron Herold (former COO of three $100M+ companies), etc.
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