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    Is Amazon Cutting Your Product Titles to Just 75 Characters?

    22/07/2026 | 49 mins.
    Amazon is shrinking product titles to 75 characters from 200, enforced 27 July 2026, and Carolyn Lowe explains exactly what to fix first.
    Summary
    Carolyn Lowe spent years at Dell — including running the consumer side of Dell.com — before leaving corporate life to build ROI Swift, an Austin agency that helps consumer brands grow profitably on Amazon. In this episode she and Matt dig into the single mistake she sees most often, which is founders throwing more money at ads when the real problem sits somewhere else entirely — a weak product page, a poor main image, or a listing the algorithm can't read.
    She shares the numbers behind her thinking, from the 18–20% of ad spend most brands are quietly wasting to the 25% packaging saving she found for one client, and the clean rule she keeps coming back to, which is that the main image drives traffic while the content drives conversion. There's also a hard deadline every Amazon seller needs to act on, plus why she prefers affiliates over influencers and why Amazon Business is worth a look.
    00:00 — Welcome and two ecommerce "dinosaurs" meet
    06:13 — Why more ad spend usually burns money
    13:12 — Agencies that think like owners
    23:48 — Grading a listing A to F and the 75-character title cut
    26:20 — Main image drives traffic, content drives conversion
    32:00 — Why Amazon is shrinking product titles
    34:55 — Launching her own brand with Vine and TikTok affiliates
    40:05 — Where AI actually helps on Amazon
    45:20 — Saving the best till last, SKU analysis to Amazon Business

    (Chapter markers aligned to the episode video.)
    Why Throwing More Money at Ads Usually Backfires (06:13)
    Carolyn's view is that most brands reach for the ad budget when sales dip, when the fundamentals are what actually need fixing. If a website isn't converting at 2–3% with an average order value under $100, or an Amazon listing isn't converting at 15–20% or higher, more spend simply pours good money after a bad page.
    "If your website isn't converting at 2 to 3% and your AOV is less than $100, go back and fix your product pages." — Carolyn LoweShe points to the 18–20% of ad spend she routinely sees wasted. On a £30,000-a-month budget, that's roughly $6,000 a month set on fire. One example she gives is a women's fertility product whose automated software kept spending on "dog, cat, horse, pet" keywords, which is why ROI Swift uses AI to analyse the data but keeps a human in the loop to make the call.
    The Amazon Title Change Every Seller Needs to Action Before 27 July (23:48)
    The most time-sensitive point in the episode is Amazon's move to shorten product titles. Titles are dropping to 75 characters (including spaces), down from 200, with enforcement from 27 July 2026. The change applies to all categories except media, and it's largely driven by mobile, which now accounts for the majority of Amazon traffic.
    What sellers need to know:
    Over-length titles get auto-rewritten by Amazon's AI if they aren't fixed
    Only brand-registered sellers get a 14-day review window to adjust
    Amazon has added a new Item Highlights field (around 125 searchable characters), so total indexable space stays close to 200

    Carolyn's advice is to go back in now, rewrite titles to be compliant and intentional, and get the most important product details in first — before Amazon does it for you.
    Why Your Main Image Drives Traffic and Your Content Drives Conversion (26:20)
    This is the cleanest framing in the episode. The main image is what earns the click in a crowded search result, so it's a traffic lever. The content further down the page is what turns that click into a sale, so it's a conversion lever.
    "Your main image is going to get you more traffic. Your content is going to get you more conversion." — Carolyn LoweCarolyn shares a worked example. Changing a main image from a pair of shorts on their own to the same shorts worn on a person — so buyers could see whether they were 5, 7 or 9-inch — lifted conversion by around 30%. A follow-up change to the content added roughly 12% more, with no extra ad spend. Her category-by-category tips include putting the product next to its box to signal a legitimate brand over cheap knock-offs, and showing the fruit a flavour is based on so shoppers can imagine the taste.
    What It Means to Hire an Agency That Thinks Like an Owner (13:12)
    Carolyn's differentiator is that ROI Swift thinks like owners rather than vendors, looking at the whole business instead of just the ad account. That's how they spotted a packaging change that saved one brand 25%, switching floss picks from a bag to a box and taking $1 off every unit across 200,000 units a month.
    It shows up in how they charge, too — a retainer to keep five specialists working on each account, plus a share of the brand's growth, so incentives are aligned. Their four core values run through the whole approach.
    Care about what you do
    Make it better
    Always be learning
    Glass-half-full mindset

    "We sort of are in the business of making other people millionaires and billionaires." — Carolyn LoweBefore they wrap up, Carolyn's parting tips are to start with a SKU-level benchmark of where a brand is today, and not to sleep on two growth channels — TikTok Shop and affiliates (she backs paying on sale over paying influencers for visibility), and Amazon Business, where 96 of the top 100 Fortune brands hold accounts and over $30 billion is transacted.
    Today's Guest
    Carolyn Lowe is the CEO and Co-Founder of ROI Swift, an Austin-based agency that helps consumer brands scale profitably on Amazon. ROI Swift has worked with 150+ brands and generated more than $100M on Amazon. Before founding the agency, Carolyn spent years at Dell, running a large division and the consumer side of Dell.com. She is also the author of Business Growth Do's and Absolute Don'ts and a licensed pilot.
    Website — roiswift.com
    LinkedIn — Carolyn Lowe
    Book — Business Growth Do's and Absolute Don'ts

    Carolyn has also offered a free one-page listing audit for any listener doing $5,000 or more on a single Amazon product page.
    About the eCommerce Podcast
    The eCommerce Podcast helps you deliver ecommerce WOW with real talk about building online stores. Matt Edmundson talks to experts and founders who've built the stores and learned the hard way, so you don't have to.
    Subscribe at ecommerce-podcast.com for a new episode every Thursday.
    Episode link: https://www.ecommerce-podcast.com/is-amazon-cutting-your-product-titles-to-just-75-characters-with-carolyn-lowe
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    Can Old-School Direct Mail Beat Email Marketing in Ecommerce?

    16/07/2026 | 42 mins.
    Direct mail to your warm customers pulls four to five times the response of email, and most ecommerce brands aren't using it at all. This week Matt sits down with Daniel Dunn, CEO and co-founder of Paper Planes, to make the case that the letterbox is the reactivation channel hiding in plain sight.
    Summary
    Daniel Dunn spent years working on Tesco Clubcard data strategy before co-founding Paper Planes, a direct mail platform built for DTC ecommerce. (For anyone outside the UK, Tesco is the country's biggest supermarket and Clubcard is its loyalty scheme, one of the richest customer datasets in British retail.) His argument is simple. Most brands lean entirely on email and SMS to work their first-party data, yet a big chunk of that database never opens, clicks, or responds. Those people are prime for something tangible in the post.
    Matt, who cut his teeth in direct marketing in the late '90s, digs into how the channel has changed. Dan explains why mail to warm customers outperforms email, how a single abandoned-cart postcard nudges buyers back, why hyper-personalisation lifts basket spend, and the second-purchase problem that has become the biggest challenge in DTC since COVID. There's also the Clubcard truth that one loyal customer is worth thirteen who just trial your brand once.
    If you're planning your channel mix around email alone, this conversation will change how you think about where mail fits.
    Why Mail to Warm Customers Beats Email
    Dan's core point is about saturation. In the hour it takes to record the show, your inbox collects twenty or thirty emails. The postman, meanwhile, delivers three letters and won't be back for a couple of days. That scarcity is exactly why mail cuts through.
    "In the hour it takes us to do this podcast, we'll have received 20 or 30 emails, whereas the postman came and delivered three letters, and I won't see that man again for another couple of days." — Daniel DunnThe results follow. When you send physical mail to warm customers, such as postcard follow-ups for abandoned baskets or A4 mailers to win back lapsed buyers, Dan says the response is at least four to five times higher than email. Email should still sit at the front of your strategy because it's a high-ROAS channel, but complementing it with something physical is where the value compounds.
    Email first, because it's cheap and personalisable and works for certain segments
    Mail for the people who've gone quiet and stopped engaging with email
    A multichannel follow-up creates more value from the same customer than any single channel

    The Abandoned-Cart Postcard That Lands on Day Seven
    Dan walks through the mechanic. A customer fills a basket, then life gets in the way. The usual email flow fires at two hours, twenty-four hours, and seventy-two hours. If they still haven't come back, that's the moment to trigger a postcard, roughly on day three, so it lands around day seven.
    The clever part is the tracking. Because Paper Planes tracks off the Shopify or Magento checkout, there's no need for a QR code, a discount code, or a microsite. You know who you triggered and roughly when they'll return, so the moment they hit the checkout you can see it. And if they come back via email first, they're stripped out of the postcard targeting, so you never waste the send.
    "The beauty of tracking today off Shopify and Magento is you don't have to rely on a QR code, a discount code, or a microsite." — Daniel DunnThis answers the two big objections to mail in one go. Cost, because you're mailing the handful of people who didn't complete checkout rather than your whole list. And relevance, because digital printing lets you hyper-personalise the card around the exact products the customer looked at. On average, Dan says getting the right product combinations in front of people lifts basket spend by 25 to 30 percent. His favourite example is a pet-supplier surprise-and-delight card featuring the customer's actual pet, "Stanley, it's your birthday," using an image already on file.
    The Real Prize Is the Second Purchase
    Abandoned-cart recovery is where most brands start, but Dan thinks the bigger opportunity is elsewhere. Since COVID, the hardest problem in DTC has been moving one-time buyers out of what he calls the "nursery programme" and onto a second purchase as quickly as possible.
    "You'd be amazed how valuable direct mail is at bringing people back for that all-important second purchase." — Daniel DunnMail recovers these second-purchase customers at rates you can't match through Meta, TikTok, or email. From there, Dan loves a loyalty play, trading people up into tiers and telling VIP cohorts about a launch first to build buzz. And it doesn't have to cost margin. Reminders and status messages, such as "here's how many points you have" or "thank you for being a valuable customer," can work as well as ten percent off. The rule throughout is test and learn.
    That connects to the Clubcard truth Dan keeps coming back to. One loyal, committed customer is worth thirteen who trial your brand once and move on. So don't turn your back on your first-party data, and if you follow up on it, use personalisation, because that's where the extra sales come from.
    You Don't Need Scale to Start
    The old barriers, a list of 100,000 people and a couple of million in turnover, are gone. Dan's advice now is to plan mail into your channel mix from day one, the same way you'd plan SMS, so you understand how it works alongside email before you need it at scale. Paper Planes is releasing a Shopify app this summer that lets brands set up campaigns on templates with a small amount of free credit each month to dip a toe in the water.
    Today's Guest
    Daniel Dunn is the CEO and co-founder of Paper Planes, a direct mail and postal marketing platform built for DTC ecommerce brands. He's Vice Chairman of the DMA Print Council, previously worked on Tesco Clubcard data strategy, and runs a monthly newsletter on direct mail trends. He's based in East London, originally from Birmingham.
    Website — paperplanes.co.uk
    LinkedIn — Daniel Dunn (search "Daniel Dunn Paper Planes")
    Email — daniel.dunn@paperplanes.co.uk

    About the eCommerce Podcast
    The eCommerce Podcast with Matt Edmundson is a weekly show for anyone building an online business, whether you're just starting out or running a multi-million-pound brand. Every week Matt sits down with founders and experts to dig into what actually works, from marketing and tech to story, growth, and the day-to-day of running a store.
    Full show notes and back catalogue — ecommerce-podcast.com
    Join the free eCommerce Cohort — a free, application-only community with monthly virtual sessions and regional groups. Apply at ecommerce-podcast.com
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    If you're part of the AI community, ask Sam to put you in touch with Dan and to help you think through direct mail ideas for your business.
    Episode link: https://www.ecommerce-podcast.com/can-old-school-direct-mail-beat-email-marketing-in-ecommerce-with-daniel-dunn
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    How AI Is Quietly Killing Your eCommerce App Stack

    08/07/2026 | 49 mins.
    There are thousands of software companies chasing the same small pool of brands on Shopify, and AI is quietly dismantling the bloated app stacks those brands built. Neal Goyal has spent eight or nine years inside ecommerce software, leading sales teams at names like Tapcart, and he now advises five or six earlier-stage software companies on how to grow. From that vantage point he's watching the "uninstall rate" surge as founders ask a new question of every app they pay for. Do I even need a tool for this at all?
    In this conversation Neal walks through how the ecosystem commoditised in three waves, why agentic commerce is about to change the rules again, and why the answer for anxious founders is bracingly old-school. Stop chasing the shiny object, do the Business 101, and invest in the human relationships AI can't fake. Matt shares how his own software subscriptions have roughly halved while the amount his team builds with Claude Code has doubled, including a mobile conversion rate now 400 to 500% higher after a few hours of work.
    In this episode
    [13:38] How so many apps ended up chasing so few brands
    [23:04] The great uninstall and why brands are tearing apps out
    [26:26] Shiny object syndrome and the case for Business 101
    [29:30] What the app stack can't replace
    [45:02] Neal's single best tip for anyone in the ecosystem

    How So Many Apps Ended Up Chasing So Few Brands
    [13:38]
    To understand why app stacks are collapsing, you have to understand how they got so big. Neal breaks the commoditisation of ecommerce software into three waves.
    The first was COVID. Brands on Shopify went from two million to four million "in a hot second", and an equally fast race kicked off to build the software companies that served them. The count roughly doubled from 5,000 to 10,000 almost overnight.
    The second wave was AI as an engineering tool, around early 2023. Suddenly four people in a basement could ship a compelling, high-quality product in 90 days and offer it cheaply. Every category, from loyalty to reviews to mobile apps, got disrupted by a player built almost overnight. The count climbed again, from 10,000 to 15,000 in roughly a year.
    The third wave is the one we're in now, and Neal thinks we're only at the start of it. Part of it is agentic commerce, the idea that forcing a customer to visit a website, add to cart and fill in checkout details is already starting to feel archaic.
    "We don't really know what it's gonna be today. All we know is it's gonna be different than it is today." — Neal GoyalThe other part is what's already on your desk. The ability for the average person, with no engineering background, to build their own software. The effect of all three waves is the same. There is an alternative for everything, loyalty is thin, and a brand can sign off a tool as fast as it signed on.
    The Great Uninstall and Why Brands Are Tearing Apps Out
    [23:04]
    Most Shopify brands didn't start with a business background. They started at the kitchen table with a dream and a Shopify account, and they figured it out as they went. Neal describes it as building the plane while they flew it, "like putting duct tape on the wings as it's taking off." Every new challenge, from COVID to tariffs to iOS 14, was met by looking left and right and asking the person next to you what they were doing.
    AI hasn't changed that instinct. It's supercharged it.
    "We've all become superhuman in our own light." — Neal GoyalThe reflex that used to be "which tool solves this?" is now "do I even need a tool for this at all?" And the result is showing up in the numbers.
    "The uninstall rate of software tools in the last 90 days is huge." — Neal GoyalBrands are quietly asking of each subscription, do I really need this, was my business really suffering without it, what value is it actually giving me. Neal is clear this isn't a bleak picture. It's a shift in mentality happening across the ecosystem, and he expects that mentality to look different again 90 days from now.
    Shiny Object Syndrome and the Case for Business 101
    [26:26]
    The ecosystem suffers from a chronic condition Neal calls shiny object syndrome, and AI is its newest and brightest object.
    "You bat your eyes and all of a sudden, next thing you know, you have this incredibly bloated tech stack." — Neal GoyalThe temptation right now is to believe that if you're not adopting every new AI tool the moment it lands, you're falling irreversibly behind. Neal doesn't buy it. There will be early adopters who benefit and pull ahead, but the learning curve is going to be gradual, because this is not a fad passing through.
    "At the end of the day, we are still selling a physical good here. We're still selling a t-shirt. We're still selling a supplement." — Neal GoyalHis advice for the anxious founder is the opposite of urgency. You're almost certainly not behind. You only feel that way because of the few loud voices on LinkedIn and Instagram talking about it. The danger isn't that you're too slow to adopt AI. It's that you chase the shiny object instead of doing the unglamorous Business 101 that actually moves the needle.
    What the App Stack Can't Replace
    [29:30]
    If software is commoditising and stacks are shrinking, what's left to compete on? Neal's answer is the part most people assume AI makes obsolete. The human stuff. As tools get more similar, the decision about which one to buy comes down to something basic.
    "There's a lot of similar software like this being built, but I like those people more. They're really responsive, they're really kind." — Neal GoyalAs budgets tighten, a lot of software companies are cutting exactly the customer-facing people who build those relationships. Neal argues that's precisely the moment to do the reverse. He puts his own money where his mouth is. Of the ten largest deals he's closed in recent memory, he went and met all ten in person. Ten out of ten. Email, meanwhile, "is eroding, or completely eroded already, as a trust channel." When thousands of companies flood the same small pool of inboxes, the inbox stops being a place anyone trusts.
    So the bet he's advising his clients to make is the counterintuitive one. Give before you take. Win attention rather than compete on features.
    "We're not in the business of competing against other providers in the space for that brand's business. We're in the business of competing against every other software company for attention." — Neal GoyalHis single best tip, saved for the end, doubles as the whole philosophy. Forget the textbook and go strike up 20 interviews with operators who live and breathe this work. Walk in their shoes and you'll learn more than any course could teach you. He should know. He has an MBA in marketing and says the 20 conversations taught him more than the degree ever did.
    Today's Guest
    Today's guest: Neal Goyal
    Company: SaaS Class
    Website: http://saasclass.io
    LinkedIn: Connect with Neal on LinkedIn
    Episode link: https://www.ecommerce-podcast.com/how-ai-is-quietly-killing-your-ecommerce-app-stack-with-neal-goyal
  • eCommerce Podcast

    How to Win on Walmart, Not Just Amazon

    01/07/2026 | 49 mins.
    Most Amazon sellers who try Walmart copy their listings straight across — same title, same bullet points, same ad campaigns — and wonder why it doesn't work. Andrew Deramo has spent seven years on Amazon and now puts 40% of his working time into Walmart. His argument is simple: Walmart is its own search engine, its own customer base, and its own opportunity. Sellers who treat it like a second Amazon are leaving money on the table.
    In this episode, Andrew walks through the strategy he uses with his own products and his clients at SellTru — from building platform-specific listings to using Walmart's account managers to place products on virtual shelves, running flash deals and tentpole events to build organic rankings, and eventually cutting paid advertising altogether once those rankings hold.
    Key Topics
    06:11 — Why copy-pasting Amazon listings onto Walmart quietly undermines brands moving across
    09:59 — Why Walmart is far less competitive than Amazon (and could win long-term)
    18:16 — The Walmart account manager (something Amazon simply doesn't offer) and what virtual shelf placement actually means
    26:24 — Flash deals, tentpole events, the commission rebate system, and why you can switch off PPC once you rank
    33:12 — Importing Shopify reviews onto Walmart listings, and why conversion matters more than the algorithm question
    35:54 — The wholesale opportunity — finding Amazon brands absent from Walmart and becoming their Walmart seller

    Treat Walmart as Its Own Search Engine
    Andrew's central point is that Walmart and Amazon are distinct search engines — different keyword volumes, different customer intent, different listing requirements. The titles are structured differently. The bullet points are structured differently. The keywords that perform well on one platform do not automatically perform well on the other.
    The practical implication is that a brand moving onto Walmart needs to build a Walmart-specific listing from scratch, using Amazon data as a starting point to be checked and adjusted against Walmart search data. Andrew is direct about why this matters beyond just keyword matching.
    "Set it up properly the first time. It's really difficult to change once you're already on there."The Walmart platform is less mature than Amazon's, and making changes to live listings — even something as routine as updating a main image — can take weeks to process. Getting the listing right before launch matters more on Walmart than it does on Amazon.
    The Walmart Account Manager Advantage
    A significant difference is the Walmart account manager — a Walmart employee assigned to a seller's account, with no equivalent on the Amazon side.
    What an account manager can do is called virtual shelf placement. A seller shares the keywords their product ranks for on Amazon, and the account manager manually places that product on the relevant virtual shelves within Walmart's platform. This effectively bypasses the organic ranking process for those shelf positions, giving a new or growing product visibility it would otherwise take months to earn.
    In 2026 the route to getting an account manager has changed. Previously sellers could request one; now Walmart reaches out based on GMV thresholds. Andrew notes that if a brand is doing well on Amazon, a Walmart account manager has probably already sent them an email trying to bring them across.
    "Take that gift and run with it because they can be very beneficial."Account managers also facilitate flash deals — a minimum 10% discount in exchange for placement on a high-traffic promotional shelf — and give access to tentpole events around back-to-school, Black Friday, and Christmas. During those events, Walmart offers commission rebates to sellers running Walmart-exclusive discounts: if a seller discounts a product 15% on Walmart, Walmart may cut its commission rate from around 15% down to 6 or 7%.
    Andrew is attending the Walmart convention in San Diego this year specifically to push for a clearer path to account manager access for sellers who qualify but haven't been contacted.
    Running Ads on Walmart — and Stopping
    Walmart's advertising platform is less developed than Amazon's. Andrew recommends no more than three to five keywords per campaign, running those tightly focused campaigns for a couple of months after launch to build organic rankings. The key difference from Amazon is what happens next.
    On Amazon, organic ranking positions tend to decay quickly without ongoing ad spend to support them. On Walmart, Andrew finds those positions hold for one to two months after cutting PPC.
    "Once I see that my organic ranking is page 1 in a good spot for specific key terms, I'll cut that off — because it'll maintain its spot for a while."The strategy that follows is to sustain sales velocity through flash deals and tentpole events rather than continuous advertising. CPC is lower on Walmart than on Amazon, but conversion rates are also lower — the platform has less established consumer trust. Andrew sees returns of 4x to 5x ROAS on well-reviewed products once they have some history on the platform.
    Reviews and the Shopify Import
    Reviews affect conversion on Walmart just as they do on Amazon. What Walmart allows that Amazon doesn't is a direct import of existing Shopify reviews onto a Walmart listing — sellers upload an Excel file, Walmart runs a review check, and the reviews appear on the product page.
    Andrew is honest about the limits of his knowledge here: he's confident the imported reviews lift conversion, but less sure how much weight the Walmart algorithm gives them as a ranking signal. The conversion benefit is the clearer win.
    "I'll get a review later and they'll be like, 'Oh, I read the reviews and this product was great.' But how much does it actually help the algorithm when you upload those? I'm not sure."The ability to port verified reviews from an existing Shopify store removes one of the biggest barriers for new products on any marketplace.
    The Wholesale Opportunity
    Andrew's closing advice is aimed at sellers who don't yet have their own product but want to build on Walmart.
    His suggestion is wholesale. Find small brands doing well on Amazon that have no Walmart presence — either because they lack the team, haven't prioritised it, or simply haven't got around to it. Call them. Ask for a wholesale price. Then take their product through the same Walmart launch process described above.
    "Go to Amazon, there's tons of small businesses out there that have great products, that do great sales on the Amazon platform, but just don't exist on Walmart. There's an opportunity right there."The logic holds because a product with a proven Amazon track record is exactly the kind of listing that Walmart keyword data and an account manager relationship can accelerate. It is a lower-risk entry point than launching an unknown brand, and there are a large number of Amazon-only brands who have simply never had the bandwidth to expand.
    About the Guest
    Andrew Deramo is the founder of SellTru, where he helps ecommerce brands grow on Amazon and Walmart Marketplace. He has spent seven years on both platforms, started as ecommerce director for a large beach-supply business, and now runs his own product accounts alongside his agency work.
    Website: selltru.com
    LinkedIn: Andrew Deramo

    About the eCommerce Podcast
    The eCommerce Podcast is hosted by Matt Edmundson. Each week Matt talks with ecommerce founders and experts about what's actually working — practical strategies, honest lessons, and the kind of insight that comes from running real businesses.
    New episodes every week. Find show notes, transcripts, and links at ecommerce-podcast.com.
    Sign up to the newsletter to get each episode delivered to your inbox, and if you want to go deeper, check out the Cohort Groups — monthly calls with ecommerce people from around the world.
    Episode link: https://www.ecommerce-podcast.com/how-to-win-on-walmart-not-just-amazon-with-andrew-deramo
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    Why Your 2-Pound Parcel Ships Like It Weighs 18

    24/06/2026 | 49 mins.
    Leo Rodriguez has spent years watching ecommerce brands quietly overpay on shipping, sometimes billed for 18 pounds on a parcel that actually weighs two. In this episode of the eCommerce Podcast, Matt Edmundson sits down with the VP of a Los Angeles 3PL to pull apart the unglamorous moves that protect your margin, one parcel at a time.
    Summary
    Leo Rodriguez, VP of River Plate, Inc., joins Matt to talk through the hidden costs sitting inside every order you ship. It starts with dimensional weight, where a small product in an oversized box gets rated as a far heavier shipment, so you end up paying for air. Leo explains how "cartonization" and carrier rate-shopping can claw that money back, saving $2 to $3 per parcel for brands doing hundreds of orders a day.
    From there the conversation widens out to the messier stuff. Leo breaks down why smaller brands got hit hardest by the new tariffs while bigger brands used their buying power to get manufacturers to absorb the freight. He and Matt compare notes on international shipping gray zones, customs nitpicking, fuel surcharges becoming the new normal, and Amazon's ever-growing pile of fees.
    00:00 Welcome and meet Leo
    03:58 The inventory and replenishment problem
    09:51 Tariffs, Brexit and customs gray zones
    21:29 Why small brands got hit hardest
    25:29 Fuel surcharges and the new normal
    29:02 Cartonization, save $2 to $3 a parcel
    33:07 Amazon's fees and dim weight
    41:17 How to reach Leo

    Dim Weight and Cartonization, Where Your Margin Quietly Leaks
    [33:07]
    Dimensional weight is the formula carriers use to rate a parcel by the space it takes up, not just what it weighs. Put a light product in a box that is too big and you get penalised for the empty space.
    "If you're putting it in a, you know, 12 by 12 by 12 box and weighs only 2 pounds... it's not a 2-pound shipment. It's getting rated at an 18-pound shipment." — Leo RodriguezThe fix is cartonization, where transport management software reads the net dimensions and weight of your products and picks the smallest sensible shipper. Pair that with rate-shopping across a multi-channel carrier network and the savings add up fast.
    Brands doing 100 to 300 orders a day can save $2 to $3 per parcel
    Shipping cost can be more than your fulfilment fee on a per-order basis
    Regional carriers and zone skipping can halve transit time and cost on the right lanes

    "They're saving $2 per shipment. That adds up. That's a margin protector." — Leo RodriguezWhy Smaller Brands Got Hit Hardest by Tariffs
    [21:29]
    When the large tariff percentages landed, the brands with leverage came out ahead. Big brands could go back to their overseas manufacturers and renegotiate, and in some cases get the factory to cover the full freight bill, between $4,000 and $9,000 a container.
    Smaller brands had no such leverage. Many were left holding inventory they had already produced overseas but could not afford to import, while retail partners cancelled or halved the very purchase orders they had been banking on.
    Lead times stretched from 3 to 4 weeks out to 8 to 12 weeks
    Brands shifted to smaller consolidated shipments, nearshoring, and alternate-country manufacturing in places like Malaysia and Taiwan
    Standing up a new supply chain takes time, so the relief is rarely quick

    International Shipping and the Customs Gray Zone
    [09:51]
    Matt and Leo swap war stories on cross-border shipping, with Matt's running Brexit gag as the UK parallel to US tariff chaos. On both sides of the Atlantic, free global trade turns out not to be that free.
    Country-by-country rules are strict, especially on cosmetics and skincare, with Italy, Spain and Mexico all flagged. You can send 50 or 100 shipments through fine, then one customs agent nitpicks and the product gets stuck, disposed of, and the brand cops the bad review.
    "Free global trade is not actually that free... it does require quite a lot of joined-up thinking." — Matt EdmundsonLeo's advice is to build item-level profiles, get the harmonised codes and packaging language right at the point of manufacture, and register properly for tax before you fire away.
    Fuel Surcharges, Amazon's Fees, and the New Normal
    [25:29]
    Fuel surcharges jumped roughly 18 to 20% in two months, and the historical pattern is that surcharges ratchet up and never quite come back down. Plastics and packaging climbed 20 to 30%, hitting shrink wrap, poly mailers and bubble bags.
    Amazon comes in for a closer look too. Powerful, yes, but fee-laden, with per-unit charges, ageing and seasonality storage tiers, FBA percentages, marketing fees, and a quietly added fuel surcharge in early May. Leo's case is for channel diversification, so you keep some control and predictability rather than living entirely inside one ecosystem.
    "I am optimistic overall still. I think brands, you get smart and then you have to be resilient." — Leo RodriguezToday's Guest
    Leo Rodriguez is Vice President of River Plate, Inc., a Los Angeles-based 3PL and fulfilment company serving DTC, wholesale and Amazon brands. River Plate handles fulfilment, logistics and international shipping, and Leo is happy to take a quick call to see whether there is a fit.
    Website: riverplateinc.com
    LinkedIn: Leo Rodriguez
    River Plate Inc on Instagram and LinkedIn
    Email: sales@riverplateinc.com

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