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Kristen and Jen
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    Private Equity Knows Something Private Credit Doesn't | This $30B LBO Holds the Secret

    16/04/2026 | 50 mins.
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    Private credit is the crisis everyone's watching, but the real story -- and the one no one has been focused on -- is what private equity is doing behind the scenes.

    In Part 1 of our 3-part series, Kristen and Jen break down the $30 billion leveraged buyout of Caesars by Apollo and TPG, the deal that became the blueprint for what we now call "creditor-on-creditor violence" and flipped everything everyone thought they knew about the relationship between debt and equity investors on its head.

    This also happens to be the ultimate Private Equity & LBO deep dive as we start with the basics: what an LBO actually is, how it works, why private equity firms started to do club deals back in 2006/7 (hint...size) and how capital structures work at a high level.

    From there, Jen and Kristen walk through the actual structure of the Caesars deal — $6B in equity from Apollo, TPG, and 30+ co-investors (everyone from Goldman Sachs to the Michael J. Fox Foundation to Bob Kraft), $7B in bank loans, $6B in bridge-to-high-yield bonds, and $6.5B in commercial mortgage-backed securities sitting at the PropCo level. They explain what an OpCo/PropCo mean in laymen's terms, why it let Apollo juice leverage, why club deals fell out of favor in favor of co-invest structures, and how today's mega-LBOs (Electronic Arts, the Ellison family's Warner Bros. Discovery play) stack up against what was historic in 2007.

    This series is based on The Caesars Palace Coup by Sujeet Indap and Max Frumes — not sponsored, just genuinely one of the best case studies out there on LBOs and distressed debt investing. 

    Stay tuned for Part 2, where Jen and Kristen get into everything that went wrong, the asset-transfer shenanigans, and the birth of creditor-on-creditor violence and how Britney Spears was the linchpin that kept it all together...until it all unraveled with the biggest names in investing, Apaloosa, Eliott, Oak Tree, Oak Hill, Paulson and more got in the ring. 

    In Part 3, we sit down with Sujeet Indap of the Financial Times to talk about what the Caesars deal means for the private credit market today, and what exactly is going on with Caesars who is back in the news with Carl Icahn and billionaire Tilman Fertitta out with competing offers.
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    Morgan Stanley's Head & CIO of Private Equity Solutions: The Ultimate Deep Dive into PE Investing

    11/04/2026 | 1h 7 mins.
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    Buckle up, because this week we're sitting down with Neha Champaneria Markle, who runs the Private Equity Solutions group at Morgan Stanley Investment Management.

    Neha walks us through the entire private equity landscape and answers the questions you've been dying to ask an insider including: 

    - Is "AI is going to destroy software and therefore private equity"? 
    - Why are fundraising cycles getting longer?
    - What does vintage year really tell you about a fund's performance? 
    - What's actually a "good" DPI, IRR, and TVPI
    - Why does every fund somehow claim to be top quartile? 

    She also pulls back the curtain on subscription credit lines and how GPs use them to juice early IRRs, gives us a definition of "fund of funds" and "co-investment" that actually makes sense, and settles the score on whether PE investing is really just "volatility laundering".

    As the walls around private equity are coming down, it’s important to understand which sectors are secretly crushing it, how managers actually get selected, the fee structures, and what the "democratization of private markets" really means for returns going forward.
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    Wall Street is Watching Something More Concerning than Oil

    01/04/2026 | 43 mins.
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    Everyone's been freaking out about oil and stocks, but the scariest thing this past week actually happened in bonds, and almost nobody was talking about it.

    Last week the US Treasury held three auctions that were utter disasters, with dealer takedown more than double its 12-month average — worse than the tariff panic of April 2025. We get into what that means and why it matters.

    Then we get into the viral Fortune Magazine article claiming the US Treasury declared the federal government insolvent. It did not... the numbers they used aren't wrong — but the way they used them is, and we explain why you simply cannot apply corporate accounting rules to a sovereign government that prints its own currency and has a military. That said, we're not letting Washington off the hook. The fiscal picture is broken and we get into why.

    We wrap up with some of the wildest proposals circulating right now for how to fix the US debt problem — including one from self-proclaimed Bond King Jeffrey Gundlach that we're giving a hard pass. If you want the stuff that actually moves markets explained by people who used to sit on the desk, this is the episode.

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    Wealthfront.com/wss. This is a paid endorsement for Wealthfront. May not reflect others’ experiences. Similar outcomes not guaranteed. Wealthfront Brokerage is not a bank. Rate subject to change. Promo terms apply. If eligible for the boosted rate of 4.15% offered in connection with this promo, the boosted rate is also subject to change if base rate decreases during the 3 month promo period.The Cash Account, which is not a deposit account, is offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC ("Wealthfront Brokerage"), Member FINRA/SIPC. Wealthfront Brokerage is not a bank. The Annual Percentage Yield ("APY") on cash deposits as of 11/7/25, is representative, requires no minimum, and may change at any time. The APY reflects the weighted average of deposit balances at participating Program Banks, which are not allocated equally. Wealthfront Brokerage sweeps cash balances to Program Banks, where they earn the variable APY. Sources HERE.
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    Private Credit: Even Apollo's Trapped Investors. Here's Exactly What You Need to Know

    28/03/2026 | 54 mins.
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    Private credit is all over the headlines — and all over your social media feed. Apollo just gated redemptions, Moody's stripped KKR's credit fund of its investment grade status, and Bill Maher is talking about it on late night TV. But what's actually going on beneath the panic? In this episode, we break down the alphabet soup of fund structures — publicly traded BDCs, private BDCs, interval funds — and explain why the vehicle you're invested in might matter just as much as what's inside it. What happens when you want your money back and the fund says no? And why are some managers bending over backward to meet redemptions while others are slamming the gate shut?
    Then we dig into a question most people aren't asking: if stress is building in credit markets, who actually stands to benefit? We sit down with Fabian Chrobog, CIO and co-founder of NorthWall Capital, who has spent over two decades investing through crises from the GFC to European sovereign debt and beyond. He walks us through the difference between distressed investing, special situations, and what he calls "credit opportunities" — and why the rebranding isn't just cosmetic. What does it look like to run toward the fire when everyone else is heading for the exits, and why might the best opportunities take years to show up?
    From the surprising world of lending against law firm case portfolios to the real reason "the distressed cycle is coming" has been the most overpromised trade of the last fifteen years, this conversation will change how you think about risk, liquidity, and where the smart money is actually going. Whether you're a retail investor trying to understand what your BDC actually is, or you just want to know why Wall Street keeps reinventing the same product with a new name — this one's for you.
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    Wealthfront.com/wss. This is a paid endorsement for Wealthfront. May not reflect others’ experiences. Similar outcomes not guaranteed. Wealthfront Brokerage is not a bank. Rate subject to change. Promo terms apply. If eligible for the boosted rate of 4.15% offered in connection with this promo, the boosted rate is also subject to change if base rate decreases during the 3 month promo period.The Cash Account, which is not a deposit account, is offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC ("Wealthfront Brokerage"), Member FINRA/SIPC. Wealthfront Brokerage is not a bank. The Annual Percentage Yield ("APY") on cash deposits as of 11/7/25, is representative, requires no minimum, and may change at any time. The APY reflects the weighted average of deposit balances at participating Program Banks, which are not allocated equally. Wealthfront Brokerage sweeps cash balances to Program Banks, where they earn the variable APY. Sources HERE.
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    Private Credit UPDATE: Is this 2008 all over again?

    12/03/2026 | 50 mins.
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    If you read the headlines about Private Credit, it feels like we're on the verge of another Global Financial Crisis. So, are we?  
    In this Private Credit "state of the union" episode, we break down the structural differences between today's private credit market and the pre-GFC banking system, why the "private" in private credit makes it so hard to know how deep the problems actually go, and whether the knock-on effects to pensions, banks, and public markets could make this everyone's problem even if most Americans don't have direct exposure.
    We dig into the Blue Owl gating, redemption and markdown headlines at Blackstone and Blackrock, and what Boaz Weinstein's activist bid tells us about where these portfolios are actually worth. What's more, we ask whether the push to put private credit into 401(k)s and retail channels is democratizing wealth creation or backfilling institutional demand that's dried up. Plus: the "SaaSpocalypse" thesis, why Tuesday's record $66 billion day in IG bond issuance may be telling a very different story than private credit headlines, and more!
    For a 14 day FREE Trial of Macabacus, click HERE
    Shop our Self Paced Courses:
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    Wealthfront.com/wss. This is a paid endorsement for Wealthfront. May not reflect others’ experiences. Similar outcomes not guaranteed. Wealthfront Brokerage is not a bank. Rate subject to change. Promo terms apply. If eligible for the boosted rate of 4.15% offered in connection with this promo, the boosted rate is also subject to change if base rate decreases during the 3 month promo period.The Cash Account, which is not a deposit account, is offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC ("Wealthfront Brokerage"), Member FINRA/SIPC. Wealthfront Brokerage is not a bank. The Annual Percentage Yield ("APY") on cash deposits as of 11/7/25, is representative, requires no minimum, and may change at any time. The APY reflects the weighted average of deposit balances at participating Program Banks, which are not allocated equally. Wealthfront Brokerage sweeps cash balances to Program Banks, where they earn the variable APY. Sources HERE.

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Where Bloomberg meets Page Six. Join us -- Kristen and Jen -- two former Morgan Stanley and Lehman Brothers investment bankers who take the most complex deals, market moves, and stories in finance and distill them into what actually matters. From conversations with the biggest names in investing to deep dives people can’t stop sharing (not to mention the occasional HBO Industry red carpet), this is the show Wall Street is obsessed with.
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