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Kristen and Jen
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    AI Stocks Just Tanked. Why Is Wall Street Talking About Enron?

    15/10/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
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    0:00 Why Enron matters for the AI conversation right now
    5:00 Origins: the gas bank, Lay, Skilling, and Fastow
    9:00 Mark-to-market accounting and booking 20 years of profit on day one
    13:00 Growth targets, exec comp, and regulated vs deregulated energy
    15:00 SPEs, the 3% rule, and Fastow's LJM
    19:00 Circular earnings: the dark fiber swap and disguised loans
    24:00 Earnings games, leverage ratios, and why cash flow matters
    28:00 Every deal was a stinker (and Netflix before Netflix)
    29:00 The collapse: Chanos, debt puts, the commercial paper run, Dynegy
    35:00 Broadband, Blockbuster, and the $8 business valued at $60 billion
    38:00 The fake trading floor
    40:00 Take-or-pay, leases, and off-balance-sheet debt in AI today
    44:00 Meta's Project Hyperion and thinking about risk holistically
    50:00 Accounting is imperfect: pensions, EPS maximizers, and the AI lesson
    55:00 California, the Raptors, Arthur Andersen, and who called it

    Why is Enron suddenly back in the conversation about AI? This week, we revisit The "Smartest Guys in the Room" to unpack what actually happened in the Enron scandal. While there are some similarities, a lot is different. Enron hid debt, manufactured earnings, and convinced Wall Street to buy a story that even many professional investors couldn’t explain. From a fake trading floor to financial structures backed by its own stock, we break down what actually happened behind one of the most infamous corporate collapses in history.

    Then we turn to the financing behind today’s AI boom: off-balance-sheet obligations, circular financing, and the gap between reported earnings and actual cash flow. We dig into Meta’s Project Hyperion, the long-term commitments funding the data center build-out, and why a chipmaker booking revenue today while its customer spreads the cost over years matters when evaluating the boom. Along the way, we explain mark-to-market accounting, special purpose vehicles, and why “it’s not on the balance sheet” doesn’t mean “there’s no risk.”

    To be clear, we’re not accusing today’s AI companies of Enron-style fraud. The point is understanding where the comparisons hold up, where they fall apart, and what investors should actually scrutinize. A technology can change the world without every company funding it earning a return. Revenue isn’t profit, profit isn’t cash flow, and a rising stock price isn’t proof that a business model works. Before you call something “the next Enron,” you need to understand the first one.

    Also if you want to learn more about accounting, valuation, M&A etc. Kristen spent 13 years teaching this to analysts and associates at bulge bracket investment banks and business schools and then spend two years creating the most comprehensive course out there. https://www.thewallstreetskinny.com/investment-banking-private-equity-fundamentals

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    NEOCLOUDS EXPLAINED: Your ULTIMATE Guide to AI’s Least Understood Business

    11/10/2026 | 35 mins.
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    How do Bitcoin miners end up running the infrastructure behind AI? This week we break down neoclouds like CoreWeave, Nebius, and Lambda. What makes a neocloud different from AWS, Google Cloud, Azure, and the hyperscalers? Why were crypto miners, sitting on warehouses, power contracts, and a business model with a built-in expiration date, so well placed to pivot? And if these companies don’t have the cash flows of a Google or a Microsoft, how are they paying for billions of dollars of chips? We dig into chip-backed financing. How can a junk-rated company borrow against Microsoft’s AAA credit? Why are lenders comfortable with 95% advance rates? What happens when the compute contracts are only three to five years long and customers like OpenAI aren’t profitable yet?

    Then we get to the NVIDIA of it all. NVIDIA invests in the neoclouds, backstops their unused capacity, and sells them the chips. Is that savvy, or is it circular financing? How does it compare with Lucent in the dot-com bust? What about the take-or-pay obligations that never show up on anyone’s balance sheet? Plus: OpenAI’s revenue miss, how media bias shaped the coverage, and whether Starbucks and Chipotle should merge (pumpkin spice burrito, anyone?).

    0:00 Market-Moving Headlines: OpenAI’s Revenue Miss
    3:27 Starbucks & Chipotle M&A
    6:29 What Are Neoclouds?
    9:12 From Crypto Miners to Neoclouds
    13:40 Hyperscalers vs. Neoclouds
    17:21 Chip-Backed Financing
    23:30 The NVIDIA of It All
    29:56 Circular Financing Risks
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    Is Anthropic's $2 Trillion IPO in Jeopardy? What We Learned from Leaked IPO Prospectus

    01/10/2026 | 46 mins.
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    We're back at the intersection of AI and high finance!

    Anthropic is reportedly targeting a $2 trillion IPO valuation. So what did Reuters find when it got an early look at the S-1? Kristen, our resident investment banker, walks through the numbers: $4.6 billion in 2025 revenue, a $42 billion loss (and how much of it was an accounting charge on a convert), $20 billion in cash against a reported $518 billion compute plan, and a quarter of revenue coming from just two customers. Why don't those compute contracts show up as debt when the neoclouds on the other side are borrowing against them? And with open-weight models closing the gap, is it time to get nervous about this IPO?

    Then we turn to the off switch. After a summer of OpenAI agents breaking out of the sandbox, a paused model, and a scrapped GPT-6.1 Astra release, who is actually reaching for the brakes? We cover Dario Amodei's "We Must Pace the Frontier" essay and the cynical read on it, the AI Kill Switch Act and the AI Emergency Button Act stalling in Congress, the executive order rebranding AI as "super intelligence," and the White House Accord on Super Intelligence, typo and all. And why did the industry name its newest products after the villains in The Matrix?

    Finally, NVIDIA swore off kill switches in 2025, citing a 1993 government fiasco called the Clipper Chip. So why did it just announce a two-part system called OpenShell and Sentry, and what would it catch inside a private equity data room or on a trading desk? Can any guardrail keep up with something built to be smarter than us? Plus the trolley problem, Iain Banks' Culture series, and whether we should just give up and let the robots win. Make sure you're subscribed to our Substack so you don't miss our more in-depth coverage on these complex topics: https://substack.com/@thewallstreetskinny
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    How Nvidia's Recent Acquisition Changes the AI Game Feat. Morgan Stanley's Head of US Thematic Research

    27/09/2026 | 59 mins.
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    NVIDIA just agreed to buy Hugging Face, and the deal won't add a cent to its earnings per share. So why do it? In this episode we dig into what NVIDIA really gets from owning the home of open-weight AI, and whether this is a threat to OpenAI and Anthropic that the market hasn't priced in yet. What's the actual difference between open source and open weight, and why does almost everyone (yes, even us included) mix them up? If Amazon, Google, and the frontier labs are all building their own inference chips, where does NVIDIA's next wave of customers come from? And if the free "Temu version" of AI gets good enough for most people, who keeps paying for the Prada bag?

    Then we bring on Michelle Weaver, Head of US Thematic Equity Research at Morgan Stanley, to ask the questions everyone in finance is worried about. Which companies are actually seeing AI show up in their margins, and which are just burning tokens so they can say "AI" on the earnings call? Is AI already showing up in the jobs data for young workers? What happens to the traditional Wall Street analyst class if the org chart stops being a pyramid? Does the Jevons Paradox of economic theory help or hurt the frontier model companies? And why are American companies nervous about building on Chinese open-weight models?

    We also get into the growing fight over AI data centers. Why has this become one of the few issues uniting voters on both the left and the right? What do power bills, water use, and old brownfield sites have to do with it? How big is a 57-gigawatt power shortfall, really? And what does Oracle declaring force majeure on its New Mexico Stargate site tell us about where the AI build-out is headed?

    00:00 Intro: Revisiting our early episodes
    03:00 Life updates: Flying, dogs & kids
    06:10 Our Yahoo Finance Market Hang recap
    07:50 Why NVIDIA bought Hugging Face
    11:10 Training vs. inference: Where AI compute is headed
    14:15 CUDA and NVIDIA's software moat
    15:50 Open source vs. open weight, explained
    19:20 Is NVIDIA a threat to OpenAI & Anthropic?
    21:25 Meta's Muse and why easy AI wins
    25:00 Why companies struggle with AI adoption
    27:20 Oracle's Stargate force majeure (Ground News)
    28:45 Michelle Weaver joins: What is thematic research?
    30:15 AI enablers vs. AI adopters
    35:05 Open vs. closed models and Jevons paradox
    37:25 The risks of Chinese open-weight models
    39:45 Pricing security risk in AI adoption
    42:15 Token budgets and the end of token maxing
    44:00 Is AI already costing jobs?
    46:55 What AI means for Wall Street analysts
    49:25 Data centers: People, power & politics
    53:00 Tax breaks, brownfields & state moratoriums
    55:35 The 57-gigawatt power shortfall
    57:35 US vs. China: Chips, power & the AI race
    59:20 Where to find Michelle's research
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    Why Stocks Could Drop 10% Before Year-End: feat. Wellington Macro Strategist Mike Medeiros

    18/09/2026 | 36 mins.
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    The first Fed rate hike since the summer of 2023 hit today, and we went LIVE from New York City to cover it. Minutes after Chairman Warsh wrapped his press conference, we brought on Wellington's macro strategist Mike Medeiros to make sense of the 25bp hike, the unanimous vote, and a statement that leaned unmistakably hawkish.

    We asked Mike everything we've been dying to know: Was this hike a nod to the political pressure campaign coming from President Trump, or would cutting in this environment have been, in his words, "clinically insane"? Are Warsh and Treasury Secretary Bessent working together or against each other, with the Fed pushing financial conditions tighter while Treasury intervenes in the long end? How does Treasury actually fund those interventions next year — bills, buybacks, or the TGA — and does the debt ceiling take one of those off the table? We also dug into what the hike means for the coming wave of corporate issuance financing the AI buildout, whether the midterms change the policy calculus, where positioning is most offsides, his S&P target for year-end, and what the death of forward guidance means for volatility in the front end of the curve. Plus: what nickname does Trump give "No Cut Kevin" now?

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Every week, Kristen and Jen (best friends since the second grade) have smart, funny. and honest conversations about investing, tech, and business. From Princeton and Brown to Morgan Stanley, as former investment bankers turned entrepreneurs and podcasters, Kristen and Jen take the most complex deals, market moves, and tech breakthroughs and distill them into stories you care about. From conversations with the biggest names in investing to deep dives people can’t stop sharing --- not to mention the occasional HBO Industry red carpet --- this is the show Wall Street is obsessed with.
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