Your CMO Mentor

Jon Evans, host of the Uncensored CMO podcast, joined us to share what seven years of interviewing marketing leaders has taught him about what great CMOs actually do differently. Jon has spoken with hundreds of senior marketers and been a CMO himself, which makes his perspective genuinely rare — part practitioner, part observer, all practical.Whether you're a marketing manager working towards leadership or already in a senior role, this one is full of honest, grounded advice on what it takes to get there and what to expect when you do.____________________Key topics include:- Why strategy is the skill to build first, and what marketers get wrong by focusing on tactics too early- The mindset shift from doing marketing to leading it, and why most people struggle to make that switch- How great CMOs think about risk and creative bravery, and why playing it safe is often the more expensive choice- The honest reality of the CMO role, including being unpopular, taking the blame, and doing the unglamorous work of giving your team air cover- How to build the internal case for long-term brand investment when leadership is pushing for short-term results- The Venn diagram technique for finding your path to promotion by solving a problem the business genuinely needs fixing____________________Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:30 Skills to build first08:00 Behaviour traits Jon admires13:30 Dream mentor and challenger brands21:00 Biggest lessons from mentors30:00 Advice Jon wishes he'd had earlier37:00 Patterns of great CMOs46:00 The mindset shift into leadership54:00 Risk and bravery in marketing01:02:00 Brand vs performance balance01:10:00 The reality of being a CMO01:18:00 AI and what to focus on now01:24:00 Community scenario brand vs short-term pressure____________________Big thanks to Weglot for sponsoring this episode: https://www.weglot.com/t/lp?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=media&utm_campaign=TMM____________________The full episode is now live on: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0cpW4Tsm2YuKJj488cNX1s?si=f0e962b481b74c80Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/your-cmo-mentor/id1850910303

In this webinar, Bronwen Foster-Butler, CMO of Finisterre, joined us to talk about what brand purpose actually means in practice, how it went so wrong in 2018, and what a more grounded, commercial version of it looks like today.Bronwen is one of the clearest thinkers on this topic we've had on the podcast. She doesn't shy away from the messy parts, the pressure to chase growth at the expense of meaning, the difficulty of advocating for purpose inside cautious organisations, and what it really takes to build a business where purpose shapes decisions rather than just decorates them.Key topics include:- Why brand purpose 1.0 collapsed and what the Pepsi/Kendall Jenner ad revealed about where it went wrong- How Finisterre's theory of change connects their purpose to real business decisions- Why purpose isn't purpose unless it costs you something- How to advocate for purpose inside a large or cautious organisation without alienating colleagues- The difference between internal and external marketing and why internal comes first- What Bronwyn's biggest leadership mistake taught her about ego, confidence, and showing up for your teamTimestamps:00:00 - Introduction04:30 - Quickfire round14:20 - Internal vs external marketing22:10 - Purpose 1.0 and where it went wrong34:00 - Purpose 2.0 in practice44:15 - How to advocate for purpose at work52:30 - Community questions58:00 - Biggest leadership mistake?01:08:00 - Question for the next guest______________________________Big thanks to Weglot for sponsoring this episode.

In this webinar, Anna Henwood, CEO of Stickybeak, joined us to talk about something a lot of marketers quietly struggle with: how to make confident decisions when you’re working with limited time, noisy opinions, and a gut feeling you can’t quite back up.
Anna brings a rare mix of perspectives. She ran marketing at Les Mills International as CMO before moving into the CEO seat at Stickybeak, a consumer testing platform built specifically to help marketers get fast, reliable feedback from their target audience. In this conversation she shares what that shift taught her about marketing, brand building, and how the best teams are working now.Key topics include:- Why creation is easy now but validation is the hard part, and how to close that gap quicklyHow FMCG brands can balance short-term sales pressure with long-term brand building- The difference between trusting your gut and genuinely not knowing, and how a quick concept test helps you figure out which one you’re in- What Anna looks for when she hires marketers, and why curiosity beats experience- How to approach your first 90 days as a CMO, whether you’re coming in from outside or stepping up internally- What the best CMOs will look like in the next decade, and why smaller teams with clear strategic thinking will matter more than everTimestamps:00:00 - Introduction 01:04 - First skill to build in marketing today 03:20 - Traits Anna looks for when hiring 05:18 - Dream mentor 08:30 - Don’t let perfect block progress 13:50 - What being CEO taught Anna about marketing 20:38 - Biggest blind spots in FMCG marketing 26:04 - How to build a testing habit from scratch 32:23 - When to trust gut vs data 37:17 - Simple testing habits your team can start tomorrow 45:28 - What the best CMOs will do differently 47:55 - Community Q&A: no seat at the strategy table 53:29 - Best career advice Anna has been givenWatch / listen:Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-meetup-podcast/id1365546447Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5QvmFdxg5pMwsfPkKjhXl9Please take the time to check out our partners, all of whom we work with because we think they’re useful companies for lovely marketers :)Frontify – All your brand assets in one place: Frontify combines DAM, brand guidelines, and templates into a collaborative source of brand truth.Mailchimp - The all-in-one marketing platform that helps teams turn emails, automation, and now SMS into smarter, more connected customer journeys (and they’ve been longtime friends of TMM!).Cambridge Marketing College – The best place to get your marketing qualifications and apprenticeships.Planable – the content collaboration platform that helps marketing teams create, plan, review, and approve all their awesome marketing content.Wistia – a complete video marketing platform that helps teams create, host, market, and measure their videos and webinars, all in one place.

Performance marketing can feel like you’re squeezing harder and harder for the same results. CPAs creep up. Growth slows. And suddenly, the next move isn’t about optimisation — it’s about expansion.In this episode, James and Joe sit down with Kate Waters, Commercial Director at ITV, to explore what TV advertising really offers modern marketers. From protecting price sensitivity and lowering CPAs across channels to making TV accessible for small and medium-sized brands, Kate shares how measurement, creativity and smart testing are reshaping what TV can do for growth.Key topics include: • Why TV lowers CPAs across social and search • How TV advertising protects price and margin • The “rising tide” effect on performance channels • How to start with regional geo testing • Making TV ads with AI for small budgets • Using outcomes modelling to forecast website uplift⸻Timestamps:00:00 TV’s impact on price sensitivity06:01 Skills marketers need today19:39 Why TV still works22:48 Trust and costly signalling35:14 Measuring real business outcomes43:35 How to test TV safely47:58 Small brands winning with TV⸻Watch / listen:Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-meetup-podcast/id1365546447Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5QvmFdxg5pMwsfPkKjhXl9⸻Please take the time to check out our partners, all of whom we work with because we think they’re useful companies for lovely marketers.Frontify – All your brand assets in one place: Frontify combines DAM, brand guidelines, and templates into a collaborative source of brand truth.Mailchimp - The all-in-one marketing platform that helps teams turn emails, automation, and now SMS into smarter, more connected customer journeys (and they’ve been longtime friends of TMM!).Cambridge Marketing College – The best place to get your marketing qualifications and apprenticeships.Planable – the content collaboration platform that helps marketing teams create, plan, review, and approve all their awesome marketing content.Wistia – a complete video marketing platform that helps teams create, host, market, and measure their videos and webinars, all in one place.

What if half of advertising’s problems come down to this: we keep asking people why they do things… and they genuinely don’t know?In this episode of Your CMO Mentor, we’re joined by Richard Shotton (behavioural science author of The Choice Factory and The Illusion of Choice) to unpack what actually changes behaviour and why small experiments often beat confident opinions, focus groups, and “what customers say they want.”We cover:- Why customer explanations can be misleading (even when they’re trying to be helpful)- The most underrated skill for marketers right now: behavioural science (and why it’s pretty AI-proof)- “Make it easy”: the simple lever most brands underuse- Choice paralysis, and why “too much choice” depends on the person- How to run smarter research with message testing (tiny tweaks, cleaner insight)- Why social proof works in B2B too (yes, even with doctors)- The internal comms mistake that accidentally encourages bad behaviour- How to use behavioural nudges without trashing long-term trust (hint: measure both)If you’re trying to get better at influencing behaviour - without becoming a weird persuasion goblin - this one’s for you :)⸻Huge thanks to our sponsor, Weglot! Weglot makes website translation feel human, helping brands grow into new markets without losing their tone of voice.This week we're excited to share access to ⁠Weglot’s Next Market Live replay⁠, packed with real stories and practical insights on expanding into Spain.⸻CHAPTERS00:00 Why customers don’t know why they buy05:00 What skill marketers should learn first07:35 The trait great marketers share09:10 Dream mentors (and why)10:20 The best lesson a mentor taught him18:15 Stop trusting surveys so much20:20 Make behaviour easy27:20 How to run better experiments31:30 Does behavioural science work in B2B?46:45 Nudges vs long-term trust⸻GUESTRichard Shotton. Author of The Choice Factory and founder of Astroten, a consultancy that applies findings from behavioural science to improve marketing.https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-shotton/https://www.astroten.co.uk/⸻STAY IN THE LOOPThis podcast is brought to you by The Marketing Meetup.Get thoughtful marketing ideas, upcoming episodes, and community conversations in your inbox:https://themarketingmeetup.com/newsletter⸻WHAT SHOULD WE COVER NEXT?We shape Your CMO Mentor around the questions marketers are actually asking.If there’s a challenge you’d love us to tackle, let us know. We’re listening.