Anatomy of a Leader with Maria Hvorostovsky

Late for pick-up, a Zoom call to juggle, the kids in the room. When Maria asked Cassandra Odqvist Clavien, co-founder of de-liver-ance, which daily habit is really ruining our livers, that was her answer: stress.
Her own voice gave out after years of 8am boardrooms and drinks every night. What she does now costs nothing: diet, sleep and stress first, her phone off on Sundays, and her nervous system looked after like one of her children.

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⏱ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 "You could literally cut a piece of it off"
0:44 Burnout, alcohol and your liver
2:06 Maria: heart surgery and giving up alcohol
8:59 Losing her voice to a sales job
13:07 "I met him before I met him"
26:52 Is detoxing genius or scam?
30:35 The daily habit ruining your liver
34:15 Maria: sleep after heart surgery
44:11 Three free ways to look after your liver
48:00 Phone off on Sundays
55:27 Work with your partner: dream or disaster?
1:06:17 Maria: the big exit myth

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👤 CASSANDRA ODQVIST CLAVIEN
Cassandra Odqvist Clavien is co-founder and brand director of de-liver-ance, a liver-support elixir, and The Liver Clinic, which offers non-invasive liver scans, including at John Bell & Croyden in London.
Before that she spent 10 years in M&A software sales in London. She now splits her time between the UK and Arizona.
Website: https://loveyourliver.com/
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IG (The Liver Clinic): https://www.instagram.com/the.liver.clinic/
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This episode is for general information only. Speak to your GP or a qualified health professional before changing your diet, taking a supplement or changing any medication. Cassandra Odqvist Clavien is co-founder of de-liver-ance and The Liver Clinic, both discussed in this episode. Views are the guest's own.

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"You only have one reputation. And once it's burnt, it's burnt." Grant J Bates sold a £61.3 million house in Holland Park, the highest-value residential sale in the UK that year, and says the corporate estate agency model that trained him is dead.
Five years earlier, when he started filming his listings for Instagram, his friends told him he was a moron and his employer sent him cease-and-desist letters. He kept going, and in 2025 launched his own brokerage.
In this conversation Maria tells him about the estate agent who physically pushed her away from a development she wanted to see when she was buying her first flat, and asks him the question everyone asks her at dinner: should you rent or buy?

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Grant J Bates has worked every level of London property, from lettings in Wembley at 17 to running the private office of a major corporate firm for ultra-high-net-worth clients. He now runs Grant J Bates Property, the independent brokerage he founded in 2025.

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Your manifestation is already working, every second, every day, says hypnotherapist Jim Curtis. The money you have right now, the relationship, the body, the life: all of it is the output of beliefs you don't know you're carrying.

Jim Curtis was eight when his father held peas to his mouth until he couldn't breathe, and taught him that hard work costs you nothing.

A spinal cord diagnosis at 19 taught him the opposite: hard work costs you everything, and the life you're living right now is the output of beliefs you don't even know you're carrying.

In this conversation he shows Maria - live - how to find the belief blocking the money, the relationship, the life you want. It is not what either of them expected.

Jim Curtis is a transformational coach and hypnotherapist, author of "The Book of Possibility", and runs retreats worldwide.

After two decades in health-tech leadership while privately navigating a chronic spinal condition, he rebuilt his life around one idea: the subconscious runs the show, and it can be rewritten.

In this episode: the four-line Ho'oponopono prayer that made Maria cry, the $10 million manifestation protocol run live, the naked mirror exercise, and why what you're not changing, you're choosing.

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Dermatologist Dr Aamna Adel spent 13 years earning her title - then got told off by her hospital bosses for "dancing on TikTok". She ignored everyone, grew to 1.5 million followers, and launched rhute: the scalp-care brand that sold out three times with a 33,000-person waiting list, no investors and no co-founder. And along the way, she dismantles the biggest myth in haircare: air-drying isn't the gentle option - it's feeding the fungus on your scalp.

Dr Adel is a Consultant Dermatologist, content creator, founder of rhute, and a mother - though ask her what she does, and the answer is always "dermatologist first". In this conversation with Maria Hvorostovsky: the medical-school rejection her twin sister didn't get, why hair-loss brands exploit desperate people, what actually works for your scalp (and in what timeframe), and the two-word answer to "how do you do it all?"

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This episode is sponsored by CP+R, Maria’s cardiac rehabilitation provider: https://www.cpandr.co.uk/ 

Heart surgery may repair the heart, but recovery also means rebuilding strength, confidence and trust in your body.

CP+R cardiac nurse Angela Hartley joins Maria Hvorostovsky (one of the patients she supported after mitral valve repair0  to explain when cardiac rehabilitation should begin, how to exercise safely after surgery and why recovery is emotional as well as physical.

They discuss palpitations, breathlessness and women’s heart symptoms; post-surgery fatigue, pain and medication side effects; safe heart-rate zones; bisoprolol; blood pressure; alcohol; and why it can take months to feel physically recovered and even longer to stop thinking about the surgery.

ABOUT ANGELA HARTLEY

Angela Hartley is Head of Nursing at CP+R and an experienced cardiac nurse, cardiac rehabilitation exercise specialist, personal trainer and nutritional therapist.

Having trained in Australia and worked in cardiac nursing at the Royal Brompton Hospital, she now helps people regain fitness, confidence and trust in their bodies following heart attacks, heart surgery and other cardiac diagnoses.

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Speak to your doctor, cardiologist or cardiac rehabilitation team about your own health and recovery.