BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

In 2021, Jesse Walters bought his first rental unit. Now, in 2026, he’s got a portfolio of around 30 rentals composed of small, affordable (mostly) multifamily properties that he’s getting killer returns on. Jesse did it even when mortgage rates were at 8%, even when home prices were flying up and subsequently correcting back down, and even when he didn’t know where he’d find the money to do it. 

So, how does someone with zero real estate investing experience scale from no rentals to close to 30 in just five years, during a very volatile housing market? Jesse is sharing exactly how he grew, even when financing was expensive or hard to come by, the small multifamily rentals he looks for that have the most demand in his community, and how he flips (and sometimes accidentally flops) to make five-figure, repeatable profits. 

And Jesse’s latest deal is something every investor dreams of. Converting a small hotel into 11 rental units, and, get this, for a $325,000 purchase price, putting just $0 down. It’s true, and after he’s done, this property alone will bring in a portfolio-producing amount of rent. How much? Jesse is sharing the exact numbers in today’s show!

In In This Episode We Cover:

How to scale in real estate investing and go from one rental to an income-replacing portfolio

Jesse’s latest rental: turning a hotel into an 11-unit affordable housing property (with great returns)

The five-figure profit strategy Jesse uses to make $15,000 on hands-off new builds

How to buy (profitable) rentals even when interest rates are high (8%+)

Why knowing an investor-friendly agent is the key to getting exclusive deals sent to you 

And So Much More!

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By buying just One Rental at a Time, Michael Zuber was able to replace his entire W-2 income, scale from one rental to four, then to over 80 rental units, go from paycheck to paycheck to becoming a real estate millionaire, and survive the Dot Com bubble, the 2008 crash, and the post-pandemic meltdown. And in today's show, Michael has two things to say:

First, the average American won’t make it without becoming an investor. Second, there’s good news—this year will be horrible for everyone but investors. 

Michael says we’re sitting in the best housing market in a decade. He’s putting his money where his mouth is, pulling a million dollars out of his properties’ equity to buy more, starting now. He’s aggressively making offers and getting deals for a fraction of their face value. Using a simple, but easily repeatable “wealth formula,” Michael has become the millionaire next door, and he says with just 20 minutes per day, you can, too.

This is a masterclass from one of the most respected real estate investors in the country. Michael shares exactly how the average American can become an “elite investor” with his 20 minutes per day exercise, the properties Michael is looking to buy now, the two (yes, two) offers you should make on every house, and why he never bets on appreciation (and we agree). Michael says this market could last another year—are you going to make a move or wish you had?

In This Episode We Cover

Michael’s 20 minutes per day “elite investor” exercise anyone can use to become a rental millionaire 

How Michael replaced his W-2 salary with rentals even through multiple crashes 

Why Michael says 2026 will be the best year in a decade to buy real estate

The “wealth formula” Michael uses to decide whether a property is worth it 

Why the average American will not be able to have a comfortable life without investing 

And So Much More!

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The Iran War is already changing the housing market. Home sales have slowed, mortgage rates jumped back up, a reversal in crucial housing affordability is well underway—and we’re not done yet. Oil prices are causing interest rates to fly upward, and guess what? Gas prices might not go down for another year. Is this the nail in the coffin for the return to a healthy housing market?

We’re getting into it all in April 2025’s housing market update. 

The implications of the Iran War are massive, and we’re feeling it right now. Homebuyers got a glimpse of hope when rates fell below 6% a couple of months ago. Now, we’re back up to the mid-6s. But with less competition in the market, buyers have greater opportunities. Real estate investors, especially those with cash on hand, may have even more time to take advantage. Dave shares the five things investors must do to get a good deal in this market.

But will the housing market crash? Your favorite influencer on TikTok is telling you yes, but what does Dave say? If you want proof that a housing crash will/won’t happen, Dave is showing you exactly what’s happening in the market today and whether it could lead to a home price crash, real estate selloff, or something different altogether. 

In This Episode We Cover

The massive consequences of the Iran War on the U.S. housing market 

Why mortgage rates cannot fall back down with the state of today’s economy 

Even more buyer power? Why you should be aggressively negotiating in today’s market

Five things investors must do to protect themselves against buying bad deals

Think real estate is an inflation hedge? Think again.

Will the real estate market crash? Signs that the crash bros are wrong (again) 

And So Much More!

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This is not 2008 all over again…but the discounts are looking similar. A “slow unwinding” is beginning.

Ken McElroy, a multi-decade real estate investor, owner of 10,000 rental units, and one of the biggest names in real estate, is seeing discounts…big discounts. Certain investment properties are being offered to him at 80% off peak prices, and, in his own words, the “blood in the streets” is becoming visible. Now is the time for ready real estate investors to strike.

We’re coming straight from The Ken McElroy Show set, live with Ken and Danille McElroy, both real estate investors, but seeing very different realities. Ken focuses on large multifamily while Danille buys (and helps her clients buy) single-family rentals. Even though prices have fallen (dramatically) for multifamily but not single-family, both Ken and Danille are seeing deeply discounted deals, if you know how to spot them.

Ken and Danille share their exact real estate investing buy boxes, guidance to investors starting in today’s market, the key to spotting neighborhoods with the best price growth potential, and the dangerous risk to real estate most are ignoring, a “canary in the coal mine” that Ken is paying attention to.

In This Episode We Cover

The almost unbelievable deals Ken is finding in the multifamily market (80% off)

Multifamily’s “slow unwinding” and why we’re seeing more distress in the market 

The two types of single-family properties Danille says have the biggest deal potential 

Ken and Danille’s multifamily and single-family buy box for 2026 

The key to spotting neighborhoods with the most appreciation (prices and rent) potential 

A dangerous problem that most real estate investors aren’t paying attention to 

And So Much More!

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After having her second daughter, high school math teacher Christle Stezskal had a choice to make—keep working for little pay and give up the time she had with her young children, or find another way to help provide for them. Her husband had just finished the personal finance classic, Rich Dad Poor Dad, and knew rentals were the right move—but Christle was only working with a teacher’s salary. 

She couldn’t buy $400,000 houses, let alone $300,000 or $200,000 houses. But $50K - $100K rental properties—that she could do. The duo set off, finding an out-of-state investing market where the numbers would work. They purchased their first deal, and then…lockdowns, and a tenant moving out—terrible timing. 

That wouldn’t stop Christle.

Now, just six years later, she has a real estate portfolio of 19 cash-flowing rentals. She’s gotten creative, buying off-market properties, sending direct mail, and even bidding at courthouse auctions to get rentals at the right price. Because of her hustle, she’s quit her job, now gets to spend time with her girls, and provides her family the financial future they’ve always dreamed of—and she didn’t need deep pockets to do it. 

In This Episode We Cover:

Why small, cheap rental properties can make you wealthy (even in 2026!)

How to pick the right out-of-state investing market when you have no experience

Buying rentals at auction, and the deal Christle was able to land for just $21,000

The best way to find discounted rental properties? One method Christle swears by

Scared to buy your first rental? Christle was, too, and here’s what she says you should do

And So Much More!

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