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  • Brand Growth Heroes

    Built Like a Media Brand: BOSH!’s Challenger Brand Playbook: Founders Henry Firth & Ian Theasby

    31/03/2026 | 39 mins.
    This week, I’m joined by Henry Firth & Ian Theasby, the founders of BOSH!, to explore how an audience-first approach helped them build one of the most recognisable plant-based consumer brands in the UK. For founders scaling challenger brands, this is an incredible lesson in brand growth through content & community first. Long before their recent Tesco launch with their delish PIZZA, BOSH! had already spent years building attention, trust and demand through daily recipe content, bestselling cookbooks and a clear mission to put more plants on plates.
    What makes this conversation especially useful is that Henry and Ian did not stumble into this model by accident. They set out to build a food brand, but chose to do it the lean way: validating demand, learning from audience behaviour and evolving from videos to cookbooks, licensing and then fully controlled product ranges. We talk about how they used views, comments, polls and first-principles thinking to shape products, why they moved away from licensing, what it took to launch into Tesco in just nine months, and what all of this means for founders who want to think more like media companies and less like traditional CPG brands.
    What You’ll Learn
    - How BOSH! built an audience before building a food brand
    - Why a media-first strategy can reduce risk for scaling consumer brands
    - How social content, polls and engagement can inform product development
    - Why Henry and Ian moved from licensing to building their own supply chain
    - What founders can learn from BOSH!’s rapid Tesco launch and lean operating model
    Key Topics Discussed
    - Building one of the world’s biggest plant-based video channels
    - Using The Lean Startup mindset to validate product-market fit
    - The shift in plant-based eating from niche to mainstream
    - Why BOSH! focused on taste first, then health, then sustainability
    - Using audience insights, comments and polls to shape NPD
    - Moving from content to cookbooks, TV and supermarket shelves
    - Why licensing was useful, but ultimately too limiting
    - Building an in-house team and supply chain for greater control
    - Choosing product categories like meals, pizza and curry from first principles
    - Launching into Tesco and trading ahead of forecast
    - Co-founder dynamics, leadership and role splitting
    - AI, learning mode and operating leaner as a modern brand team
    USEFUL LINKS
    Connect with Henry on LinkedIn 
    Connect with Ian on LinkedIn 
    BOSH! Website 
    Instagram 
    Facebook 
    YouTube
    Read: The Lean Startup by Eric Ries
    Tesco links:
    BOSH! Creamy Mac & Greens
    BOSH! Teriyaki Mushroom Noodles
    BOSH! Ultimate Bean Chilli
    BOSH! Hearty Lasagne
    BOSH! Tofu Tikka Masala
    BOSH! Comforting Veg Pie
    BOSH! Goan Chickpea Curry
    BOSH! Creamy No-Duja Pasta
    BOSH! Spicy N-Duja Sourdough Pizza

    We love inspiring you and helping your business to grow. Please share this episode with another founder building a challenger brand, a colleague, or a mate who is interested in the future of food, content-led growth and scaling consumer brands.
    Don’t forget to follow or subscribe to Brand Growth Heroes on your favourite podcast app, and please leave a review too. 
    Both of those actions make a massive difference to our mission to help more founders just like you!
    You can also connect with Brand Growth Heroes on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook and YouTube, find out more about the programmes and courses I run, and join our NextGen CPG WhatsApp group for founders leaning into the value that a leadership approach to engaging with AI can unlock for businesses like yours.
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    Thanks to Brand Growth Heroes’ podcast sponsor — Joelson, the commercial law firm.
    If you're a founder, you already know how much energy goes into building the perfect product, creating standout branding and connecting with consumers.
    But scaling a CPG business also brings legal complexities that can make or break your growth journey - from contracts and regulatory compliance to protecting your intellectual property.
    That’s why we’re proud to partner with Joelson, the leading commercial law firm specialising in helping fou...
  • Brand Growth Heroes

    How MOTH is Mixing Up Cocktail Category Rules | Rob Wallis, Moth Premium RTD Cocktails

    17/03/2026 | 37 mins.
    Want a deliciously sharp lesson in brand growth, category creation and how challenger brands can win by bringing new shoppers into tired categories rather than fighting for share at the bottom shelf?

    Then dive into the insight served up in this episode by guest Rob Wallis, co-founder of MOTH Drinks, who takes me through how the brand created a new premium space in ready-to-drink cocktails and is driving significant category value.
    Rob explains how MOTH spotted a gap in the market for cocktails that tasted as good as what you would make at home, but with the convenience of a can. Most importantly, instead of designing to the existing category price point, MOTH built the best liquid first and priced it accordingly.
    Our conversation also explores what founders can learn from MOTH’s approach to where to play, how to build a strong category story for retail buyers, what premiumisation really looks like in practice, and why a culture of kindness and low ego can be a commercial advantage. Rob also shares how the team is approaching US expansion, why California matters so much in RTD, and how MOTH is thinking about AI without losing the human side of the brand.
    What You’ll Learn
    How Moth went about creating a premium cocktail proposition - and persuading retail buyers that the market was there!
    Why challenger brands should build product quality first, then price from there
    How to identify the right channels and occasions to drive brand growth
    What makes a strong category story for grocery buyers
    Why culture, consistency and kindness can become commercial advantages
    Key Topics Discussed
    Creating a top-shelf RTD cocktail brand
    Premium pricing versus category norms
    Building category value with incremental shoppers
    UK versus US cocktail culture
    Choosing where to play in retail and foodservice
    Brand design and standing out on shelf
    DTC growth and omnichannel strategy
    Building culture in a scaling consumer brand
    Managing quality with co-manufacturing partners
    Using AI carefully inside a fast-growing CPG business
    If you enjoy this interview, PLEASE share it with a fellow founder, mate or colleague, subscribe or follow the show, and leave a review - it makes a real difference to us at Brand Growth Heroes!
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    Thanks to Brand Growth Heroes’ podcast sponsor - Joelson, the commercial law firm
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    If you're a founder, you already know how much energy goes into building the perfect product, creating standout branding and connecting with consumers.
    But scaling a CPG business also brings legal complexities that can make or break your growth journey - from contracts and regulatory compliance to protecting your intellectual property.
    That’s why we’re proud to partner with Joelson, the leading commercial law firm specialising in helping founders of scaling consumer brands.
    Joelson works with brands like Little Moons, Trip, Eat Natural, Bear Graze and Pulsin, and advised the Innocent founders on their landmark sale to Coca-Cola - and still work with them today! To learn more contact [email protected]
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    You can also connect with Brand Growth Heroes on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook and YouTube, find out more about the programmes and courses I run, and join our NextGen CPG WhatsApp group for founders leaning into the value that a leadership approach to engaging with AI can unlock for businesses like yours.

    Thanks to our Sound Engineer, Gyp Buggane, Ballagroove.com and podcast producer/content creator, Kathryn Watts, Social KEW
  • Brand Growth Heroes

    The Secret Maths Formula YOU Need To Scale Your CPG Brand with Dr. James Richardson of Ramping Your Brand

    03/03/2026 | 29 mins.
    What if I told you that there is a mathematical formula that separates those brands that scale really quickly and those brands that just tick along nicely? Well, there is one. I wish I had found out about it 25 years ago, but today the guest that we've got on the show (all the way from the USA) has studied this IN DETAIL, and comes on the show today to help YOU learn all about it.
    ***If you like this episode and learn from it, PLEASE share it with a fellow founder or colleague, subsrcibe or folllow the show, and leave a review - it makes a real difference to us at Brand Growth Heroes**

    Dr James Richardson, author of 'Ramping Your Brand - How to Ride the Killer CPG Growth Curve', unpicks this maths for the first time, giving you the formula to help your brand scale like the enormous skate ramp brands in the USA.
    Ramping Your Brand (2nd Edition) - Dr. James Richardson's book on scaling premium CPG brands Dr. Richardson has lowered the price of the UK paperback from £18 to £9.99 until March 10
    What You'll Learn in This Episode
    The Premium Pricing Trap - Why founders face unit economics that are 10-15x worse than big CPG companies (and why you can't avoid it)
    The 6-10% RoS Rule - The specific monthly growth rate in same-store sales that creates exponential "skate ramp" growth
    The Heavy User Strategy - Why your first $10-25M requires a completely different customer acquisition approach than Byron Sharp's mass market playbook
    Distribution vs. Velocity - How to layer exponential velocity growth on top of linear distribution expansion
    The Founder Evolution Journey - The #1 reason investors take over brands (and it's not what you think)
    Early Fan Research - How to identify and replicate your "Gonzo fans" without spending a fortune on market research
    The Danger of Slow Growth - Why growing too slowly can be just as fatal as not growing at all when you're undercapitalised
    Useful Links
    Connect with Dr James Richardson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/premiumgrowthsolutions/
    Ramping Your Brand (2nd Edition) - Dr. James Richardson's book on scaling premium CPG brands Dr. Richardson has lowered the price of the UK paperback from £18 to £9.99 until March 10
    Website: https://www.premiumgrowthsolutions.com/
    Podcast: Startup Confidential (available on YouTube, Apple, Spotify)

    ***If you like this episode and learn from it, PLEASE share it with a fellow founder or colleague, subsrcibe or folllow the show, and leave a review - it makes a real difference to us at Brand Growth Heroes**
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    Thanks to Brand Growth Heroes’ podcast sponsor - Joelson, the commercial law firm
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    If you're a founder, you already know how much of your energy goes into building the perfect product, creating standout branding and connecting with your consumers.
    But don’t forget that scaling a CPG business also comes with a maze of legal complexities that can make or break your business journey. From contracts, term sheets and regulatory compliance to protecting your brand's intellectual property as you expand, it's essential to get it right.
    And that starts with the right legal partner.
    So we're thrilled to introduce you to Joelson, a leading commercial law firm that specialises in guiding the founders of scaling CPG brands, as Brand Growth Heroes' sponsor.
    With long-term relationships with clients like Little Moons, Trip, Eat Natural, Bear Graze, and Pulsin, Joelson is also famous for advising the innocent founders in their landmark sale to Coca-Cola! As a female team, we are especially impressed by Joelson's commitment to championing female founders in CPG.
    Not many law firms are also BCorps, nor do they specialise in helping founders navigate the legal challenges of scaling without stifling the creativity and momentum that got you here in the first place. So thanks, Joelson—we’re delighted to have you on board for the second year running.
    If you'd like to get in touch to find out more, why don't you drop them a line at [email protected]
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    Follow us on our Brand Growth Heroes socials: LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube.
    Thanks to our Sound Engineer, Gyp Buggane, Ballagroove.com and podcast producer/content creator, Kathryn Watts, Social KEWS.
  • Brand Growth Heroes

    Stop Stealing Market Share & Create $100M Categories Instead with Category Pirate Eddie Yoon

    17/02/2026 | 1h 9 mins.
    If you've ever heard me talk about Superconsumers, SuperGeos, or why you should Name, Frame, and Claim your new category - all of that thinking comes from today's guest, one of my heroes: Eddie Yoon.
    Eddie is one of the world's leading thinkers on category design. He's a longtime Harvard Business Review contributor, co-founder of Category Pirates (a top Substack you must subscribe to), and has spent decades advising Fortune 100 companies on how to create new categories instead of just fighting for scraps of market share.
    I've studied Eddie's work obsessively for years because he doesn't just teach marketing - he teaches thinking. AND in this conversation, we jam together (riffing on ideas, building on each other's thoughts) about why everything you've learned in marketing strategy is likely wrong.
    We talk about K-pop Demon Hunters, how Nespresso and Gillette grew massive categories, and why breakthrough categories don't come from better features or nicer packaging - they come from deeply understanding what outcomes your super consumers are looking for.
    This episode is PACKED with real-life brand examples: Velveeta, Keurig, Tesla, Spam Musubi, frozen peas, and more. Eddie brings category design to life with stories that will completely change how you think about growing your business.
    Next Steps: Go find your K-pop moment, your Velveeta insight, your frozen peas problem - that's where exponential growth lives!
    In This Episode You'll Learn:
    Why 99% of CPG brands are playing the wrong game - stealing market share vs. growing categories, and why the biggest companies are least likely to create new categories
    Benefits are dead, outcomes are everything - The Velveeta $100M growth story: how solving one super consumer outcome (getting kids to eat greens) unlocked massive growth
    The power of super consumers & super geos - Why you should hire your super consumers, and the shocking Cherry Garcia data: 3,000 of 30,000 stores drove 80% of sales
    Lightning strike marketing - How to turn a £60K budget into £600K of impact (the Dude Wipes strategy of keeping 75% of marketing unplanned)
    Don't be afraid to niche down - Why 99% of experts are wrong when they say you're leaving people behind
    Useful links
    Connect with Eddie Yoon on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddie-yoon-ewg/
    Connect with Category Pirates on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/category-pirates/
    https://www.categorypirates.com/
    https://www.youtube.com/@categorypirates
    Mentioned in This Episode: Books & Frameworks:
    Competitive Strategy by Michael Porter
    Superconsumers by Eddie Yoon
    Clayton Christensen's "Jobs to Be Done" (milkshake example)
    Byron Sharp (mentioned as conventional wisdom)
    Mentioned in This Episode: Brands & Case Studies:
    Gillette (China market expansion)
    Keurig vs. Starbucks Verismo
    Nespresso
    Velveeta
    Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia
    Spam & Spam Musubi (Hawaii)
    Tesla
    Nvidia
    K-pop Demon Hunters (Netflix)
    Dude Wipes
    Rogaine
    Royal Canin
    Anheuser-Busch
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    Thanks to Brand Growth Heroes’ podcast sponsor - Joelson, the commercial law firm
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    If you're a founder, you already know how much of your energy goes into building the perfect product, creating standout branding and connecting with your consumers.
    But don’t forget that scaling a CPG business also comes with a maze of legal complexities that can make or break your business journey. From contracts, term sheets and regulatory compliance to protecting your brand's intellectual property as you expand, it's essential to get it right.
    And that starts with the right legal partner.
    So we're thrilled to introduce you to Joelson, a leading commercial law firm that specialises in guiding the founders of scaling CPG brands, as Brand Growth Heroes' sponsor.
    With long-term relationships with clients like Little Moons, Trip, Eat Natural, Bear Graze, and Pulsin, Joelson is also famous for advising the innocent founders in their landmark sale to Coca-Cola! As a female team, we are especially impressed by Joelson's commitment to championing female founders in CPG.
    Not many law firms are also BCorps, nor do they specialise in helping founders navigate the legal challenges of scaling without stifling the creativity and momentum that got you here in the first place. So thanks, Joelson—we’re delighted to have you on board for the second year running.
    If you'd like to get in touch to find out more, why don't you drop them a line at [email protected]
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    Please don't hesitate to join our Brand Growth Heroes community to stay updated with captivating stories and learnings from your beloved brands on their path to success!
    Follow us on our Brand Growth Heroes socials: LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube.
    Thanks to our Sound Engineer, Gyp Buggane, Ballagroove.com and podcast producer/content creator, Kathryn Watts, Social KEWS.
  • Brand Growth Heroes

    Why AI Will Be Bigger Than the Internet With 'Silicon Valley's Most Wanted' Paul Adams, Chief Product Officer Fin.ai

    03/02/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    Yep - we are at the start of a new world - a world where AI is going to be 'even bigger than the internet'.
    And as the leaders of challenger brands in CPG, we've gotta lean in. In this episode of Brand Growth Heroes, I’m joined by one of my oldest and best friends, Paul Adams, CPO & Marketing at a multi-billion dollar company, Intercom AND he is building Fin.ai.
    If you're not in 'Tech' you may not have heard of him, but Paul Adams is one of the world's most prominent tech product designers, researchers, and authors -  recognised as one of the world's leading thinkers on the the intersection between humans and technology... and now between humans, commercialisation and AI.... amongst many other aspects of tech that most of us are not even privy to!
     
    Described as "one of Silicon Valley's most wanted", he's also one of my closest friends, and I can't tell you how proud we are of the young man who rocked up to live with us in Balham in 2002 to work at Dyson, his very first job. After only a few years he was poached by Facebook, where he made the platform 'mobile' and then Google, where he worked on making Gmail, Google and YouTube mobile too. It was while working for these behemoths that he moved to San Francisco with his wife Jennifer, who's one of my three besties (Love you, Jen), and became globally renowned on the Tech speaker scene. 
    In this episode, Paul argues that AI isn’t just another new channel or tool. It’s a platform shift on the scale of the internet and potentially bigger. We talk about why the moment we’re in feels eerily similar to 1999, why marketing is getting less effective across the board, and why the brands that win next will look very different to the ones that won the last cycle.
    A bit more background on Paul:
    "Most Wanted" Status (2011): Paul Adams was highlighted by Fortune as a highly sought-after talent in Silicon Valley following his significant contributions to major tech firms.
    Google (Social Research): At Google, he led the social research team, and his work directly influenced the creation of "Circles," which became the foundational feature of Google+. He also worked on Gmail, YouTube, and mobile products.
    Facebook (Brand Experience): He later joined Facebook as the Global Brand Experience Manager, where he focused on research, design, and product strategy, working with marketers and advertising agencies.
    Intercom (Product Strategy): He joined Intercom as VP of Product in 2014, later becoming the Chief Product Officer.
    Thought Leadership: Adams is the author of Grouped: How Small Groups of Friends are the Key to Influence on the Social Web. His work on "The Real Life Social Network" is widely recognized as one of the most viewed presentations on the evolution of social networks.
    Background: Before his time in tech, he worked as a product designer at Dyson, where he designed electronic appliances.
    Current Status: As of September 2023, he was working as the Chief Product Officer at Intercom, focusing on product strategy in the age of AI.
    This isn’t a tactical 'AI' for the sake of AI episode.
    It’s a big-picture conversation about what’s actually changing, what’s already changed, and what brand builders need to understand to stay relevant over the next decade.
    it was this conversation that made me set up a buzzing new community called NextGen CPG -  a community for AI-native founders.   Take a look and see if you're eligible to join us here
    Useful links
    Connect with Paul Adams on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/pauladams/
    Connect with Intercom The #1 AI Agent https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercom/
    Join the NextGen CPG WhatsApp community and LinkedIn page 
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    Thanks to Brand Growth Heroes’ podcast sponsor - Joelson, the commercial law firm
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    If you're a founder, you already know how much of your energy goes into building the perfect product, creating standout branding and connecting with your consumers.
    But don’t forget that scaling a CPG business also comes with a maze of legal complexities that can make or break your business journey. From contracts, term sheets and regulatory compliance to protecting your brand's intellectual property as you expand, it's essential to get it right.
    And that starts with the right legal partner.
    So we're thrilled to introduce you to Joelson, a leading commercial law firm that specialises in guiding the founders of scaling CPG brands, as Brand Growth Heroes' sponsor.
    With long-term relationships with clients like Little Moons, Trip, Eat Natural, Bear Graze, and Pulsin, Joelson is also famous for advising the innocent founders in their landmark sale to Coca-Cola! As a female team, we are especially impressed by Joelson's commitment to championing female founders in CPG.
    Not many law firms are also BCorps, nor do they specialise in helping founders navigate the legal challenges of scaling without stifling the creativity and momentum that got you here in the first place. So thanks, Joelson—we’re delighted to have you on board for the second year running.
    If you'd like to get in touch to find out more, why don't you drop them a line at [email protected]

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    Please don't hesitate to join our Brand Growth Heroes community to stay updated with captivating stories and learnings from your beloved brands on their path to success!
    Follow us on our Brand Growth Heroes socials: LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube.
    Thanks to our Sound Engineer, Gyp Buggane, Ballagroove.com and podcast producer/content creator, Kathryn Watts, Social KEWS.

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Brand Growth Heroes ranks in the top 1.5% of ALL podcasts globally. With +25 years' experience working for brand giants and as coach to over 400 challenger brand founders, Fiona Fitz asks the questions you need the answers to from the founders of wildly successful consumer goods brands driving transformational growth.
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