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  • Brand Growth Heroes

    Stop Stealing Market Share & Create $100M Categories Instead with Category Pirate Eddie Yoon

    17/02/2026 | 1h 9 mins.
    If you've ever heard me talk about Superconsumers, SuperGeos, or why you should Name, Frame, and Claim your new category - all of that thinking comes from today's guest, one of my heroes: Eddie Yoon.
    Eddie is one of the world's leading thinkers on category design. He's a longtime Harvard Business Review contributor, co-founder of Category Pirates (a top Substack you must subscribe to), and has spent decades advising Fortune 100 companies on how to create new categories instead of just fighting for scraps of market share.
    I've studied Eddie's work obsessively for years because he doesn't just teach marketing - he teaches thinking. AND in this conversation, we jam together (riffing on ideas, building on each other's thoughts) about why everything you've learned in marketing strategy is likely wrong.
    We talk about K-pop Demon Hunters, how Nespresso and Gillette grew massive categories, and why breakthrough categories don't come from better features or nicer packaging - they come from deeply understanding what outcomes your super consumers are looking for.
    This episode is PACKED with real-life brand examples: Velveeta, Keurig, Tesla, Spam Musubi, frozen peas, and more. Eddie brings category design to life with stories that will completely change how you think about growing your business.
    Next Steps: Go find your K-pop moment, your Velveeta insight, your frozen peas problem - that's where exponential growth lives!
    In This Episode You'll Learn:
    Why 99% of CPG brands are playing the wrong game - stealing market share vs. growing categories, and why the biggest companies are least likely to create new categories
    Benefits are dead, outcomes are everything - The Velveeta $100M growth story: how solving one super consumer outcome (getting kids to eat greens) unlocked massive growth
    The power of super consumers & super geos - Why you should hire your super consumers, and the shocking Cherry Garcia data: 3,000 of 30,000 stores drove 80% of sales
    Lightning strike marketing - How to turn a £60K budget into £600K of impact (the Dude Wipes strategy of keeping 75% of marketing unplanned)
    Don't be afraid to niche down - Why 99% of experts are wrong when they say you're leaving people behind
    Useful links
    Connect with Eddie Yoon on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddie-yoon-ewg/
    Connect with Category Pirates on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/category-pirates/
    https://www.categorypirates.com/
    https://www.youtube.com/@categorypirates
    Mentioned in This Episode: Books & Frameworks:
    Competitive Strategy by Michael Porter
    Superconsumers by Eddie Yoon
    Clayton Christensen's "Jobs to Be Done" (milkshake example)
    Byron Sharp (mentioned as conventional wisdom)
    Mentioned in This Episode: Brands & Case Studies:
    Gillette (China market expansion)
    Keurig vs. Starbucks Verismo
    Nespresso
    Velveeta
    Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia
    Spam & Spam Musubi (Hawaii)
    Tesla
    Nvidia
    K-pop Demon Hunters (Netflix)
    Dude Wipes
    Rogaine
    Royal Canin
    Anheuser-Busch
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    Thanks to Brand Growth Heroes’ podcast sponsor - Joelson, the commercial law firm
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    If you're a founder, you already know how much of your energy goes into building the perfect product, creating standout branding and connecting with your consumers.
    But don’t forget that scaling a CPG business also comes with a maze of legal complexities that can make or break your business journey. From contracts, term sheets and regulatory compliance to protecting your brand's intellectual property as you expand, it's essential to get it right.
    And that starts with the right legal partner.
    So we're thrilled to introduce you to Joelson, a leading commercial law firm that specialises in guiding the founders of scaling CPG brands, as Brand Growth Heroes' sponsor.
    With long-term relationships with clients like Little Moons, Trip, Eat Natural, Bear Graze, and Pulsin, Joelson is also famous for advising the innocent founders in their landmark sale to Coca-Cola! As a female team, we are especially impressed by Joelson's commitment to championing female founders in CPG.
    Not many law firms are also BCorps, nor do they specialise in helping founders navigate the legal challenges of scaling without stifling the creativity and momentum that got you here in the first place. So thanks, Joelson—we’re delighted to have you on board for the second year running.
    If you'd like to get in touch to find out more, why don't you drop them a line at [email protected]
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    Please don't hesitate to join our Brand Growth Heroes community to stay updated with captivating stories and learnings from your beloved brands on their path to success!
    Follow us on our Brand Growth Heroes socials: LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube.
    Thanks to our Sound Engineer, Gyp Buggane, Ballagroove.com and podcast producer/content creator, Kathryn Watts, Social KEWS.
  • Brand Growth Heroes

    Why AI Will Be Bigger Than the Internet With 'Silicon Valley's Most Wanted' Paul Adams, Chief Product Officer Fin.ai

    03/02/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    Yep - we are at the start of a new world - a world where AI is going to be 'even bigger than the internet'.
    And as the leaders of challenger brands in CPG, we've gotta lean in. In this episode of Brand Growth Heroes, I’m joined by one of my oldest and best friends, Paul Adams, CPO & Marketing at a multi-billion dollar company, Intercom AND he is building Fin.ai.
    If you're not in 'Tech' you may not have heard of him, but Paul Adams is one of the world's most prominent tech product designers, researchers, and authors -  recognised as one of the world's leading thinkers on the the intersection between humans and technology... and now between humans, commercialisation and AI.... amongst many other aspects of tech that most of us are not even privy to!
     
    Described as "one of Silicon Valley's most wanted", he's also one of my closest friends, and I can't tell you how proud we are of the young man who rocked up to live with us in Balham in 2002 to work at Dyson, his very first job. After only a few years he was poached by Facebook, where he made the platform 'mobile' and then Google, where he worked on making Gmail, Google and YouTube mobile too. It was while working for these behemoths that he moved to San Francisco with his wife Jennifer, who's one of my three besties (Love you, Jen), and became globally renowned on the Tech speaker scene. 
    In this episode, Paul argues that AI isn’t just another new channel or tool. It’s a platform shift on the scale of the internet and potentially bigger. We talk about why the moment we’re in feels eerily similar to 1999, why marketing is getting less effective across the board, and why the brands that win next will look very different to the ones that won the last cycle.
    A bit more background on Paul:
    "Most Wanted" Status (2011): Paul Adams was highlighted by Fortune as a highly sought-after talent in Silicon Valley following his significant contributions to major tech firms.
    Google (Social Research): At Google, he led the social research team, and his work directly influenced the creation of "Circles," which became the foundational feature of Google+. He also worked on Gmail, YouTube, and mobile products.
    Facebook (Brand Experience): He later joined Facebook as the Global Brand Experience Manager, where he focused on research, design, and product strategy, working with marketers and advertising agencies.
    Intercom (Product Strategy): He joined Intercom as VP of Product in 2014, later becoming the Chief Product Officer.
    Thought Leadership: Adams is the author of Grouped: How Small Groups of Friends are the Key to Influence on the Social Web. His work on "The Real Life Social Network" is widely recognized as one of the most viewed presentations on the evolution of social networks.
    Background: Before his time in tech, he worked as a product designer at Dyson, where he designed electronic appliances.
    Current Status: As of September 2023, he was working as the Chief Product Officer at Intercom, focusing on product strategy in the age of AI.
    This isn’t a tactical 'AI' for the sake of AI episode.
    It’s a big-picture conversation about what’s actually changing, what’s already changed, and what brand builders need to understand to stay relevant over the next decade.
    it was this conversation that made me set up a buzzing new community called NextGen CPG -  a community for AI-native founders.   Take a look and see if you're eligible to join us here
    Useful links
    Connect with Paul Adams on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/pauladams/
    Connect with Intercom The #1 AI Agent https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercom/
    Join the NextGen CPG WhatsApp community and LinkedIn page 
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    Thanks to Brand Growth Heroes’ podcast sponsor - Joelson, the commercial law firm
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    If you're a founder, you already know how much of your energy goes into building the perfect product, creating standout branding and connecting with your consumers.
    But don’t forget that scaling a CPG business also comes with a maze of legal complexities that can make or break your business journey. From contracts, term sheets and regulatory compliance to protecting your brand's intellectual property as you expand, it's essential to get it right.
    And that starts with the right legal partner.
    So we're thrilled to introduce you to Joelson, a leading commercial law firm that specialises in guiding the founders of scaling CPG brands, as Brand Growth Heroes' sponsor.
    With long-term relationships with clients like Little Moons, Trip, Eat Natural, Bear Graze, and Pulsin, Joelson is also famous for advising the innocent founders in their landmark sale to Coca-Cola! As a female team, we are especially impressed by Joelson's commitment to championing female founders in CPG.
    Not many law firms are also BCorps, nor do they specialise in helping founders navigate the legal challenges of scaling without stifling the creativity and momentum that got you here in the first place. So thanks, Joelson—we’re delighted to have you on board for the second year running.
    If you'd like to get in touch to find out more, why don't you drop them a line at [email protected]

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    Please don't hesitate to join our Brand Growth Heroes community to stay updated with captivating stories and learnings from your beloved brands on their path to success!
    Follow us on our Brand Growth Heroes socials: LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube.
    Thanks to our Sound Engineer, Gyp Buggane, Ballagroove.com and podcast producer/content creator, Kathryn Watts, Social KEWS.
  • Brand Growth Heroes

    Why Marketing Doesn’t Matter Until You’re $100M+ SALES - David Lester, Co-Founder of OLIPOP

    21/01/2026 | 33 mins.
    David Lester is the co-founder of OLIPOP, one of the MOST FAMOUS challenger brands in the United States. After our first interview IN PERSON at Bread & Jam Fest, London, David returns to us at Brand Growth Heroes to delve deeper into what it truly takes to scale a challenger brand at speed in the US. (cont'd below)
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    The Brand Growth Heroes Mini MBA 2026 is back!
    Built for founders, marketers and brand leaders who want to grow brands the right way — with practical frameworks, real case studies and honest insight.
    Applications open: Monday 5th January 2026
    Applications close SOON: Midnight Sunday, 25th January 2026
    Limited places available
    All info & how to apply visit: https://www.brandgrowthheroes.com/mini-mba-2026
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    (Cont'd) In this episode, David and I explore how businesses fundamentally change as they grow from a small founding team to an organisation of 250+ people. 
    David shares why founders must constantly reassess their role as the company scales, how to think about hiring ahead of growth, and why senior hires should create an immediate sense of relief rather than uncertainty.

    The conversation also dives into fundraising across different stages of growth, with David unpacking what investors really care about at seed, Series A, B and C, why growth becomes the defining metric once revenue appears, and why raising more capital than you think you need can be a smart strategic move.

    Finally, David shares his perspective on expanding into the US, explaining why the scale, complexity and cost of the market are so often underestimated and why each state effectively operates like its own country.

    This episode is packed with practical insight for founders building teams, raising capital and navigating rapid growth especially those with ambitions to scale in the US.
    Useful links
    Connect with David Lester on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-lester-4b71b512/
    Connect with OLIPOP on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/olipop-pbc/
    OLIPOP WEBSITE https://drinkolipop.com/?srsltid=AfmBOooJ-CAEJQJEk4PaYpk7F5mOj0_nDbLy5H5PWaqed1idZWDd50NW
    Follow OLIPOP on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/drinkolipop/
    Follow OLIPOP on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/drinkolipop
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    Thanks to Brand Growth Heroes’ podcast sponsor - Joelson, the commercial law firm
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    If you're a founder, you already know how much of your energy goes into building the perfect product, creating standout branding and connecting with your consumers.
    But don’t forget that scaling a CPG business also comes with a maze of legal complexities that can make or break your business journey. From contracts, term sheets and regulatory compliance to protecting your brand's intellectual property as you expand, it's essential to get it right.
    And that starts with the right legal partner.
    So we're thrilled to introduce you to Joelson, a leading commercial law firm that specialises in guiding the founders of scaling CPG brands, as Brand Growth Heroes' sponsor.
    With long-term relationships with clients like Little Moons, Trip, Eat Natural, Bear Graze, and Pulsin, Joelson is also famous for advising the innocent founders in their landmark sale to Coca-Cola! As a female team, we are especially impressed by Joelson's commitment to championing female founders in CPG.
    Not many law firms are also BCorps, nor do they specialise in helping founders navigate the legal challenges of scaling without stifling the creativity and momentum that got you here in the first place. So thanks, Joelson—we’re delighted to have you on board for the second year running.
    If you'd like to get in touch to find out more, why don't you drop them a line at [email protected]
    ==============================================.
    Please don't hesitate to join our Brand Growth Heroes community to stay updated with captivating stories and learnings from your beloved brands on their path to success!
    Follow us on our Brand Growth Heroes socials: LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube.
    Thanks to our Sound Engineer, Gyp Buggane, Ballagroove.com and podcast producer/content creator, Kathryn Watts, Social KEWS.
  • Brand Growth Heroes

    STOP: Would You Build a House Without Instructions?

    12/01/2026 | 1 mins.
    Why do so many of us founders try to do the equivalent of building a flatpack house without the instructions? And then beat ourselves up internally when it turns out to be harder than expected? Or when you make mistakes that anyone would in the same situation? Would you spend years trying to make it work with no instructions — just half-torn pages you’ve collected along the way, doing your best to stitch them together?
    Not just the furniture mind you - The foundations. The skeleton. The plumbing. The electrics. The legal and safety stuff too....
    ... and while you're trying to build it, you're also trying to market it, sell AirB&B rooms and put the entire place up for sale?
    Would you spend 50-500k of your own money doing this, not to mention your unpaid time?
    That’s effectively what we do as consumer packaged goods founders.
    After a tough few years, after countless marathons, we often end up with good products, and a brand we feel passionate about.
    Perhaps we get some early D2C wins, and some early retailer traction too.
    But then the stakes get higher. 
    We need to making pricing, channel, hiring and funding decisions without ever being able to see how the whole system fits together.
    So decisions get made in isolation - without us realising they are joined up. (think pricing decisions and customer or channel read-across - and if you don't know what that means, ask below and I will tell you from my own experience, mistakes and learnings!)
    Problems get fixed as they appear.
    But the cost shows up later - in margin, stress, or decisions that need undoing.
    This is happening to thousands of us, everyday. 
    How ridiculous is that? 
    We're all making the same mistakes, incurring the same costs, getting more and more stressed - without ever asking: 
    Why am I not looking for a set of instructions for this? 
    Why am I beating myself up for not getting it right without them?
    After 25+ years working inside and alongside consumer brands - from global blue-chip FMCG to fast-scaling challengers, I kept seeing this pattern repeat.
    So I built the decision-making framework I needed and I wrapped it up inside the BGH Mini MBA. 
    With a peer and expert network, so you don’t have to carry this level of complexity on their own.
    Stop thinking you *should* be able to do this on your own.
    Fi Fitz ⚡ 💛 

    Applications for the Brand Growth Heroes Mini MBA 2026 cohort are now open.
    https://www.brandgrowthheroes.com/mini-mba-2026
  • Brand Growth Heroes

    Blanco Niño: From Burrito Bar Detour to €10M Tortilla Chip Brand with Founder Phil Martin

    06/01/2026 | 43 mins.
    I'm thrilled to be interviewing fellow Irish person, Phil Martin, founder of Blanco Niño, to explore how an obsession with quality turned a burrito bar frustration into a multi-million-euro tortilla brand.... (cont'd below)
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    The Brand Growth Heroes Mini MBA 2026 is back.
    Built for founders, marketers and brand leaders who want to grow brands the right way — with practical frameworks, real case studies and honest insight.
    Applications open: Monday 5th January 2026
    Applications close: Midnight Sunday, 25th January 2026
    Limited places available
    All info & how to apply visit: https://www.brandgrowthheroes.com/mini-mba-2026
    ============================================================
    (Cont'd)
    Phil shares the unlikely path that took him from Ireland to Mexico in search of real corn tortillas and why learning how things fail allowed him to build something better. This is a conversation about how to turn craft into something that scales and choosing the long road when shortcuts would have been easier.
    What You’ll Learn in This Episode
    Why Phil flew to Mexico with no contacts and asked to learn how to grow corn
    How discovering real tortillas completely reset his understanding of quality
    Why it takes three days to make a Blanco Niño tortilla chip and why that matters
    The brutal realities of building a food factory from scratch (and nearly importing a “blowtorch attached to a tractor”)
    How Blanco Niño scaled from foodservice to retail and towards €10M in revenue
    Why knowing every way something can fail allows you to push quality to the edge
    The personal cost of trying to do everything yourself and how founders avoid burnout
    What it really means to build a challenger brand without shortcuts
    A big favour!
    So many of you regularly write to tell us how helpful Brand Growth Heroes interviews have been for you, how much you've learned and how it has helped you grow your consumer branded business...and we are so grateful every time we hear this!
    The podcast is something we do as a labour of love, so if our work has helped YOU, please please can you pay it forward by clicking FOLLOW & WRITING A SHORT REVIEW at the bottom of THIS page (by clicking Ratings and Reviews)
    Each review we get makes a MASSIVE difference to our business, the algorithms that performance it and the number of listeners 
    THANK YOU.
    Useful links
    Connect with Phil Martin on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipmichaelmartin/
    Connect with Blanco Niño on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/blanco-nino/
    Blanco Niño website https://www.blanco-nino.com/
    Follow on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/helloblanconino
    Follow on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/helloblanconino
    The book Phil mentioned: The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday
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    Thanks to Brand Growth Heroes’ podcast sponsor - Joelson, the commercial law firm
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    If you're a founder, you already know how much of your energy goes into building the perfect product, creating standout branding and connecting with your consumers.
    But don’t forget that scaling a CPG business also comes with a maze of legal complexities that can make or break your business journey. From contracts, term sheets and regulatory compliance to protecting your brand's intellectual property as you expand, it's essential to get it right.
    And that starts with the right legal partner.
    So we're thrilled to introduce you to Joelson, a leading commercial law firm that specialises in guiding the founders of scaling CPG brands, as Brand Growth Heroes' sponsor.
    With long-term relationships with clients like Little Moons, Trip, Eat Natural, Bear Graze, and Pulsin, Joelson is also famous for advising the innocent founders in their landmark sale to Coca-Cola! As a female team, we are especially impressed by Joelson's commitment to championing female founders in CPG.
    Not many law firms are also BCorps, nor do they specialise in helping founders navigate the legal challenges of scaling without stifling the creativity and momentum that got you here in the first place.
     So thanks, Joelson—we’re delighted to have you on board for the second year running.
    If you'd like to get in touch to find out more, why don't you drop them a line at [email protected]
    ==============================================. 
    Please don't hesitate to join our Brand Growth Heroes community to stay updated with captivating stories and learnings from your beloved brands on their path to success!
    Follow us on our Brand Growth Heroes socials: LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube.
    Thanks to our Sound Engineer, Gyp Buggane, Ballagroove.com and podcast producer/content creator, Kathryn Watts, Social KEWS.

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Brand Growth Heroes ranks in the top 1.5% of ALL podcasts globally. With +25 years' experience working for brand giants and as coach to over 400 challenger brand founders, Fiona Fitz asks the questions you need the answers to from the founders of wildly successful consumer goods brands driving transformational growth.
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