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Parker Lewis: Digital Credit, Bitcoin Treasury Companies, and Where We Disagree
01/08/2026 | 1h 13 mins.Parker Lewis, Head of Business Development at Zaprite and author of Gradually, Then Suddenly, has been one of the clearest writers on Bitcoin as money for years. Lately he's been vocal about the Bitcoin treasury companies and the yield products built on them.
I wanted to hear him out, but I also pushed back — because I think there's a version of these products that brings in people who wouldn't otherwise be here. We didn't land in the same place, which is what makes it worth your time.
In this episode:
Why Parker says the simplest way to save in Bitcoin is to own Bitcoin
His answer to something I hear constantly: that Bitcoin is too volatile for most people
His take on Digital Credit and whether it can work as an on-ramp for people who aren't ready to hold Bitcoin directly
What he'd hold instead: a little Bitcoin, and the rest in...cash??
What the price of a ribeye steak over the last few years says about what's happening to your money
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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.- In this urgent PSA episode of Coin Stories, Natalie Brunell sits down with Rob Hamilton, co-founder and CEO of AnchorWatch and one of the first people to analyze the ColdCard seed hack on-chain, to explain what happened and what ColdCard users need to do right now.
We cover:
Which ColdCard models and firmware versions are affected
Why the seed phrases became guessable in the first place, explained with no jargon
Why moving your seed onto another manufacturer's device does not remove the risk
What to do ASAP, step by step, including the test transaction people skip when they're panicked
Follow Rob Hamilton at https://x.com/Rob1Ham - his DMs are open.
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Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie
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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:
Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie
Natalie's Upcoming Events:
The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL
Extra Services to Consider:
Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie
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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening. - In his first unrestricted one-on-one interview since stepping down as CEO of XXI, Jack Mallers joins Coin Stories to set the record straight on his departure and why he chose principles over a fortune on Wall Street. We discuss:
Why he walked away from Twenty One Capital, and the disagreement that got him there
His message to the people who invested because they believed in him
Why he calls it a failure, and the guilt he says comes with it
The blank check he was handed, and why he couldn't take it
What he tells anyone who bought Bitcoin in 2021 and feels burned by the round-trip price action
The one thing he says would send Bitcoin sharply higher
Follow Jack Mallers on X https://x.com/jackmallers
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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU
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Borrow against your Bitcoin with Ledn, the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie
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Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie
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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:
Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie
Natalie's Upcoming Events:
The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL
Extra Services to Consider:
Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie
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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.
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#money #Bitcoin #investing - Private equity has earned a reputation for loading companies with debt, cutting costs, and putting short-term returns ahead of the businesses themselves. But what if successful owners had another option?
Nico Lechuga is a Bitcoin entrepreneur, a founding partner of Bitcoin venture capital firm Ego Death Capital, and co-founder of the newly launched holding company Orange Juice. He joins Coin Stories to explain a new model for acquiring profitable businesses, preserving what makes them valuable, and using their cash flow to build a Bitcoin treasury.
In this episode:
Why the private equity model can create destructive incentives for otherwise healthy businesses
How Orange Juice hopes to offer owners an alternative when they are ready to step back or sell
Why profitable "boring businesses" may be among the most overlooked assets in America
How Bitcoin could become part of a long-term strategy for preserving and compounding business value
What separates a real business opportunity from an idea that simply sounds exciting
Follow Nico on X at https://x.com/nico_lechuga
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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU
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Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
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Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie
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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie
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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:
Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie
Natalie's Upcoming Events:
The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL
Extra Services to Consider:
Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie
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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.
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#money #Bitcoin #investing News Block: Is This Bear Market Almost Over? "Big Bitcoin" Unites to Defend Network, Strategy Makes Its First STRC Buyback
27/07/2026 | 7 mins.In this week's episode of the Coin Stories News Block powered exclusively by Ledn, we cover these major headlines related to Bitcoin, macroeconomics, and global finance:
What the wave of Bitcoin company closures and bankruptcies tells us about where we are in the bear market
84% of Bitcoin is now held by long-term holders — the highest level ever recorded
AI agents just paid each other in Bitcoin over Lightning for the first time
BlackRock, Fidelity, and seven other institutions pledge $15M to protect Bitcoin from quantum threats — and critics are calling it "Big Bitcoin"
Strategy repurchases $25M in STRC at $86.52 and boosts its cash reserve to $3.75 billion
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The News Block is powered exclusively by Ledn – the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $11 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. My followers get .25% off their first loan. Learn more at www.ledn.io/natalie
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References mentioned in the episode:
BitMEX Ends Operations After 11 Years
BitMart to Wind Down Its Exchange
Satsuma Shareholders Approve Bitcoin Treasury Liquidation
Smarter Web Company Sells Bitcoin to Repay Debt
Poolin Files for Bankruptcy
Poolin Files Chapter 11 and Sets $52 Million Floor Bid
Bitcoin Standard Treasury Company Scraps Original SPAC Terms
Jack Mallers Steps Down as Twenty One Capital CEO
MARA Sells $1.5 Billion of Bitcoin Amid AI Shift
Bitdeer Empties Its Bitcoin Treasury as Miners Pivot to AI
Natalie Brunell Interviews MARA CEO Fred Thiel
84% of Bitcoin Is Held by Long-Term Holders
Bitcoin Conviction Is at an All-Time High
Lightning Labs Launches Wavelength
Jensen Huang Explains Why Open AI Models Matter
Mark Zuckerberg on Open Source and Preventing Centralization
Elon Musk Says X's Code Will Be Open Source and Audited
Jack Dorsey Announces Buzz
Michael Levin Demonstrates Buzz and Wavelength Working Together
Satoshi Nakamoto on the Root Problem With Conventional Currency
Mike Schmidt Explains the Bitcoin Security Consortium
Brian Armstrong on Preparing Bitcoin for Quantum Computing
Official Bitcoin Security Consortium Announcement
BlackRock, Coinbase and Strategy Join $15 Million Security Consortium
Nine Firms Launch the Bitcoin Security Consortium
Galaxy Launches the Bitcoin Quantum Readiness Initiative
Strategy Overhauls Its Bitcoin Capital-Markets Metrics
Strategy Announces Its New Bitcoin Capital-Markets Metrics
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