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- Is tokenization pointless until you can borrow against it?
This week, we sit down with Kamino's new CEO Michael Weisz on why he left fintech to build the onchain credit layer.
We explore Kamino's invisible distribution strategy, why Goldman won't lend on private assets, why venture can't be collateral yet, and how his upside rides on $KMNO. Enjoy!
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
00:54 Why Leave Fintech For Crypto?
05:43 Why Join Kamino?
10:01 Kamino’s Vision For Onchain Finance
14:06 Who Owns The Customer Relationship?
17:13 Bringing Institutions Onchain: Four Pillars
23:34 Why Private Assets Need Onchain Credit
27:23 Which Assets Make Good Collateral?
33:27 Can DeFi Attract Top Asset Managers?
39:18 Running Kamino Like A Public Company
43:28 How Do Collateral And Liquidations Work?
46:45 Why Choose Tokens Over Equity?
50:05 Building Kamino’s Team
52:49 Final Thoughts
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EVENTS
› Join us at Digital Asset Summit London Nov 10-11
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RESOURCES
› Learn more about Blockworks Agentic Detection:
https://blockworks.com/insights/introducing-agentic-detection-asset-monitoring-built-for-the-ai-era
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DISCLAIMER
Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only. Any views expressed are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed. - What if Hyperliquid’s biggest opportunity is helping the exchanges it’s compared against?
This week, Hyperliquid Labs CEO & Co-founder Jeff Yan explains how Hyperliquid is building shared infrastructure for the entire financial system.
We discuss options, institutional access, the cost of trading speed, and why transparent markets could deliver better execution. Enjoy!
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
01:31 Building The House Of All Finance
05:07 Is Hyperliquid More Than An Exchange?
07:17 Bringing Institutions Onto Hyperliquid
11:46 Better Trading Through Fees And Options
18:19 Do Transparent Markets Deliver Better Execution?
23:46 Keeping Hyperliquid’s Community Focused
27:05 What Comes Next For Hyperliquid?
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› Shaunda – https://x.com/shaundadevens
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› Jason – https://x.com/jasonyanowitz
› Empire – https://x.com/theempirepod
› Telegram – https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh
› Blockworks – https://x.com/Blockworks
EVENTS
› Join us at Digital Asset Summit 2026 Asia October 7th & Digital Asset 2026 London November 10-11th
https://blockworks.com/events
› TOKEN2049 Singapore is back October 7–8, bringing together 25,000 attendees, 300 speakers, and 500 exhibitors for one of the biggest weeks in crypto.
Get your TOKEN2049 tickets and 10% DISCOUNT here: https://checkout.token2049.com/events/asia?promo=DASPODCAST10&utm_source=Empire&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=daspodcast&utm_id=DASPODCAST
RESOURCES
› Learn more about Blockworks Agentic Detection:
https://blockworks.com/insights/introducing-agentic-detection-asset-monitoring-built-for-the-ai-era
› Start building with the Blockworks Unified API
https://blockworks.com/insights/introducing-the-blockworks-unified-api
DISCLAIMER
Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only. Any views expressed are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed. Compute Is A Trillion-Dollar Market Trading In Group Chats | Brett Harrison & Andrawes Bahou
05/10/2026 | 1h 5 mins.How do you price a commodity that still clears in text messages?
This week, we're joined by Brett Harrison of Architect and Andrawes Bahou of Compute Desk to discuss why GPU compute needs a futures market for better pricing and hedging.
We explore the opaque broker markets quoting GPUs that don't exist, buyers paying up to 2x to get chips sooner, hyperscaler cash flow going negative, and the biggest constraints in the AI market. Enjoy!
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
00:59 Why Does Compute Need Markets?
08:53 Compute Still Trades In Group Chats
13:38 Why Finding GPUs Takes So Long
19:21 How Much Compute Should You Buy?
26:58 Why Are Compute Prices Rising?
33:27 Can Architect Take On CME?
38:13 How Do You Hedge Compute?
43:08 The Risks Behind GPU Lending
52:08 What Really Constrains The AI Market?
01:02:08 What Is Everyone Missing About Compute?
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EVENTS
› Join us at Digital Asset Summit 2026 Asia October 7th & Digital Asset 2026 London November 10-11th
https://blockworks.com/events
› TOKEN2049 Singapore is back October 7–8, bringing together 25,000 attendees, 300 speakers, and 500 exhibitors for one of the biggest weeks in crypto.
Get your TOKEN2049 tickets and 10% DISCOUNT here: https://checkout.token2049.com/events/asia?promo=DASPODCAST10&utm_source=Empire&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=daspodcast&utm_id=DASPODCAST
RESOURCES
› Learn more about Blockworks Agentic Detection:
https://blockworks.com/insights/introducing-agentic-detection-asset-monitoring-built-for-the-ai-era
DISCLAIMER
Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes. only. Any views expressedare opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.- AI is absorbing investor attention while crypto fundamentals keep improving and fueling growing signs of the long-awaiting bull market.
This week, we debate the economics behind AI’s boom and whether crypto’s recovery deserves more attention.
We also explore data center financing, why Yano is buying Backpack, overlooked fintech growth, and whether AI agents will disrupt financial services. Enjoy!
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
00:58 Silicon Valley’s AI Drama
02:52 What Could Pop AI’s Bubble?
08:49 AI’s Boom Vs The Debt Markets
12:33 Will Compute Demand Keep Growing?
15:53 The Economics Behind AI Compute
21:23 Is Crypto’s Bull Market Back?
30:29 Was SBF Actually A Great Investor?
37:22 Crypto’s Regulatory And Funding Shift
41:42 Is Crypto Growth Different This Time?
48:24 Will AI Agents Disrupt Finance?
54:00 Content Of The Week
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› Rob – https://x.com/HadickM
› Telegram – https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh
› Blockworks – https://x.com/Blockworks
EVENTS
› Join us at Digital Asset Summit 2026 Asia October 7th & Digital Asset 2026 London November 10-11th
https://blockworks.com/events
› TOKEN2049 Singapore is back October 7–8, bringing together 25,000 attendees, 300 speakers, and 500 exhibitors for one of the biggest weeks in crypto.
Get your TOKEN2049 tickets and 10% DISCOUNT here: https://checkout.token2049.com/events/asia?promo=DASPODCAST10&utm_source=Empire&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=daspodcast&utm_id=DASPODCAST
RESOURCES
› Learn more about Blockworks Agentic Detection:
https://blockworks.com/insights/introducing-agentic-detection-asset-monitoring-built-for-the-ai-era
› Start building with the Blockworks Unified API
https://blockworks.com/insights/introducing-the-blockworks-unified-api
DISCLAIMER
Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to. buy orsell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only. Any views expressed are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed. Markets Sending, Just Buy Consensus, Meta's AI Moment & Who Wins Tokenization? | Weekly Roundup
25/09/2026 | 51 mins.Do markets even need CLARITY when quality names and regulators are already sending?
This week, we dig into pro-innovation regulators and consensus momentum trades outperforming clever rotations.
We also explore Muse, inventors rarely winning, tokenization value capture, and $HOOD versus $SOL. Enjoy!
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
00:58 Blockworks’ Origins And Crypto’s Red Flags
05:08 Crypto Ripping Without CLARITY?
09:41 Can Consensus Coins Keep Winning?
13:18 Why Dragonfly Shifted Toward Equity
20:48 Is Meta’s AI Bet Underpriced?
33:26 Why Crypto’s First Movers Lost
36:29 Blockworks’ DAS Asia And Unified API
39:08 Who Captures Tokenization’s Value?
46:42 Content Of The Week
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› Rob – https://x.com/HadickM
› Telegram – https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh
› Blockworks – https://x.com/Blockworks
EVENTS
› Join us at Digital Asset Summit 2026 Asia October 7th & Digital Asset. 2026London November 10-11th
https://blockworks.com/events
› TOKEN2049 Singapore is back October 7–8, bringing together 25,000 attendees, 300 speakers, and 500 exhibitors for one of. thebiggest weeks in crypto.
Get your TOKEN2049 tickets and. 10%DISCOUNT here: https://checkout.token2049.com/events/asia?promo=DASPODCAST10&utm_source=Empire&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=daspodcast&utm_id=DASPODCAST
RESOURCES
› Learn more about Blockworks Agentic Detection:
https://blockworks.com/insights/introducing-agentic-detection-asset-monitoring-built-for-the-ai-era
DISCLAIMER
Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation. to buy or sellsecurities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes. only. Anyviews expressed are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
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