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    The Risk No One Defines | Cullen Roche on Building Your Perfect Portfolio

    27/02/2026 | 59 mins.
    In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Cullen Roche to discuss his new book Your Perfect Portfolio and the deeper principles behind building a portfolio that actually fits your life. Rather than starting with asset allocation models or return forecasts, Cullen reframes investing around risk, time horizons, and lifetime consumption. We explore how to think about stocks, bonds, factor investing, international diversification, private assets, inflation hedges, and more through the lens of financial planning and asset liability matching. This is a practical, wide ranging conversation about portfolio construction, behavioral risk, and how investors can align their investments with real world goals.
    Main topics covered:
    Why you are a saver, not an investor, and why that distinction matters

    Defining risk as uncertainty of lifetime consumption

    The temporal conundrum and matching investments to time horizons

    Human capital as your most important asset and how it impacts portfolio risk

    The pros and cons of a 100 percent stock allocation

    Rethinking the 60 40 portfolio after inflation and rising rates

    International diversification and valuation differences between US and global markets

    Factor investing as a time horizon tool rather than an alpha strategy

    The forward cap portfolio and skating to where the market cap puck is going

    Inflation protection strategies including stocks, TIPS, gold, and the permanent portfolio

    Risk parity and the tradeoff between diversification and return

    Countercyclical rebalancing and managing behavioral risk

    Private equity, venture capital, and the illiquidity premium

    Defined duration investing and asset liability matching for individual investors

    The real impact of inflation, taxes, and fees on long term returns

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Risk as lifetime consumption and asset liability matching
    01:03 Introduction to Your Perfect Portfolio
    05:25 You are a saver, not an investor
    08:24 Defining risk and uncertainty of lifetime consumption
    10:15 The temporal conundrum and time horizons
    12:38 Using past performance and forecasting responsibly
    15:00 Human capital and portfolio construction
    17:12 The case for a 100 percent stock allocation
    19:50 Rethinking the 60 40 portfolio
    24:00 Adding international diversification
    29:43 Factor investing across time horizons
    35:00 The forward cap portfolio concept
    38:27 Inflation hedges and the permanent portfolio
    42:27 Risk parity explained
    44:49 Countercyclical rebalancing
    47:17 Private assets and illiquidity
    51:25 Defined duration strategy and Discipline Funds ETFs
    56:00 Real returns after inflation, taxes, and fees
    If you are interested in portfolio construction, asset allocation, financial planning, factor investing, inflation protection, or building a long term investment strategy that matches your goals, this conversation offers a thoughtful framework for thinking differently about risk and returns.
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    The Edge Has Shifted | Matt Reustle on How the Best Investors Use AI

    25/02/2026 | 1h 3 mins.
    In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Matt Russell of Business Breakdowns to explore how AI is actually being used in investing today. We go beyond the hype and break down practical use cases for AI in portfolio management, stock research, due diligence, monitoring, and idea generation. From deep research models and agentic AI to prompt engineering and workflow design, this conversation walks through how professional investors can use AI tools to increase productivity, improve decision-making, and reduce blind spots without losing their edge. If you are an asset manager, analyst, allocator, or DIY investor wondering how AI will impact investing and stock picking, this episode offers a clear, practical roadmap.
    Main topics covered:
    The evolution from early large language models to deep research and agentic AI for investors

    LLMs vs agent-based AI and why the distinction matters for investment research

    How AI fits into an investor’s workflow, from due diligence to portfolio monitoring

    Using AI to monitor KPIs, earnings calls, and cross-industry signals in real time

    How AI can help kill bad ideas faster and surface deal breakers early

    Prompt engineering for investors, including mindset framing, audience targeting, and output design

    Building mental models into AI systems to reflect your investment philosophy

    AI tech stacks for investors, including writing tools, deep research models, and browser-based AI

    Iteration, experimentation, and standardized testing of prompts across model upgrades

    The impact of AI on alpha generation, active management, and generalist vs specialist investors

    Organizational adoption strategies for investment firms considering AI

    Customization, agentic workflows, and what AI in investing could look like five years from now

    Timestamps:
    00:00 How AI tools increase investor productivity
    01:16 Why early ChatGPT was a head fake for investors
    03:07 The inflection point with deep research and agentic AI
    05:00 LLMs vs agents explained in plain English
    07:01 Where AI fits inside an investment workflow
    09:28 Replacing manual earnings transcript work
    11:40 Real-time monitoring and AI alerts
    19:24 Using AI to kill bad investment ideas faster
    22:01 Trust but verify, hallucinations and safeguards
    25:29 Matt’s AI tech stack for investing
    30:00 Prompt engineering breakthroughs
    33:00 Standardized experimentation across new AI models
    36:07 Building idea generation prompts step by step
    40:15 Using AI as an editor and critical reviewer
    43:50 Does AI compress investor skill differences
    46:10 How funds should adopt AI internally
    50:40 Fear of falling behind in asset management
    53:05 Generalists vs specialists in an AI world
    55:18 AI and the pursuit of alpha
    57:00 Customization, agents and the future of investing
    01:01:10 Coding agents and building tools with AI
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    When You've Won the Game, Stop Playing | What Great Investors Taught Us About Portfolio and Purpose

    23/02/2026 | 1h 8 mins.
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    In this episode, we explore one of the most important but overlooked questions in investing: what is the purpose of your portfolio? Through a series of powerful clips and reflections from Aswath Damodaran, Meb Faber, Ben Hunt, Cullen Roche, Corey Hoffstein, Daniel Crosby, Larry Swedroe, and Wes Gray, we examine how goals like financial freedom, funded contentment, liability driven investing, retirement planning, and multi generational wealth shape the way we invest. This conversation goes beyond beating the market and focuses on preserving and growing wealth, reducing financial stress, aligning money with meaning, and defining what a life well lived truly looks like.
    Topics covered include:
    Why the end game of investing matters more than beating the market

    Preserving and growing wealth vs trying to get rich

    Freedom as the ultimate goal of financial independence

    Funded contentment and what it means to live a life well lived

    Liability driven investing and matching assets to future needs

    The difference between getting rich and staying rich

    Needs vs desires and understanding marginal utility of wealth

    Retirement planning and redefining success beyond a number

    Multi generational wealth and thinking beyond your own lifetime

    The psychological impact of growing up with or without money

    Financial freedom, stress reduction, and peace of mind

    Tactical financial goals vs long term purpose driven investing

    Education, legacy, and investing in the next generation

    Why once you win the game you may not need to keep playing

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Aswath Damodaran on preserving and growing wealth
    10:04 Meb Faber on freedom, contentment, and the hedonic treadmill
    22:36 Ben Hunt on funded contentment and finding your pack
    28:23 Cullen Roche on risk as uncertainty of consumption
    33:25 Corey Hoffstein on liability driven investing and not worrying about money
    41:50 Daniel Crosby on financial freedom and living life on your own terms
    47:33 Larry Swedroe on needs vs desires and staying rich
    55:54 Wes Gray on big blue arrows, tactical goals, and peace of mind
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    When Safe Becomes the Most Dangerous | The 100-Year Thinkers on AI, Staples and How Words Mislead

    21/02/2026 | 1h 16 mins.
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    In this episode of the 100 Year Thinkers, Matt Zeigler and Bogumil Baranowski continue their conversation with Robert Hagstrom and Chris Mayer, diving deeper into general semantics and what it means for investors navigating AI enthusiasm, market volatility, benchmark obsession, and the gamification of markets. From Warren Buffett’s cathedral versus casino metaphor to the risks hiding in so-called “safe” consumer staples stocks, this discussion explores how language, expectations, and mistaken certainty shape investment decisions. If you want to think more clearly about markets, technology, valuation, and your own reactions as an investor, this episode offers a powerful mental framework.
    Topics Covered
    What general semantics is and how language influences how investors think

    IFD disease idealism frustration demoralization and how unrealistic expectations impact markets

    AI hype, capital spending, and the prisoner’s dilemma facing major tech companies

    Warren Buffett’s cathedral versus casino metaphor and what it means for investors today

    Why beating the S and P 500 may not be the right benchmark for success

    The gamification of markets, retail trading growth, and the shift from long-term investing to speculation

    Terminal value risk in software stocks amid AI disruption

    Why low volatility “warm fuzzy” stocks like consumer staples may be more dangerous than they appear

    Expectations investing, confidence versus overconfidence, and avoiding mistaken certainty

    The map is not the territory and how to avoid confusing models with reality

    Everything is connected to everything else markets as biological systems rather than mechanical systems

    Delayed gratification, compounding, and why wealth is built later in the investment journey

    Timestamps
    00:00 Cathedral versus casino capitalism and the market metaphor
    02:00 What is general semantics and why it matters for investors
    03:00 IFD disease unrealistic expectations and AI hype
    06:40 Outperformance, Bill Miller, and unrealistic return expectations
    09:00 Are market benchmarks the right way to measure success
    12:00 What if stock market indexes did not exist
    14:00 Public versus private markets and myopic loss aversion
    18:40 Compounding, volatility, and delayed gratification
    21:00 AI valuations, strategic capital spending, and economic returns
    24:20 The AI adoption cycle frustration and demoralization
    30:40 The man in overalls story and delaying reactions
    33:30 Warren Buffett cathedral versus casino metaphor revisited
    35:00 Gamification of markets passive flows and species shift in investing
    39:00 When to sit still versus when to act in volatile markets
    43:00 Mistaken certainty and the biggest risks in today’s market
    45:00 The hidden risk in consumer staples and low volatility stocks
    47:20 Expectations investing confidence versus overconfidence
    49:40 Everything is connected markets as living systems
    53:00 What success really means beyond beating an index
    56:20 The map is not the territory final lessons for investors
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    The Global Regime Change | Jason Hsu on AI, Factor Investing and What Investors Miss About China

    19/02/2026 | 1h 3 mins.
    In this episode of Excess Returns, Jason Hsu returns for a wide-ranging conversation on China’s economy, the global AI race, emerging markets, factor investing, and what the next phase of globalization could mean for U.S. investors. We explore how China’s fiercely competitive domestic capitalism contrasts with common Western narratives, why AI could reshape professional services the way globalization reshaped manufacturing, and how investors should think about portfolio allocation in a shifting G2 world.
    This discussion covers China manufacturing dominance, Chinese EV competition, U.S. vs. China AI strategy, emerging markets investing, factor investing in inefficient markets, and how machine learning is changing quantitative portfolio management.
    Main topics covered
    Why U.S. investors misunderstand China’s economic system and the role of competition inside its domestic market

    How China became the world’s manufacturing powerhouse and what that means for tariffs and trade wars

    The Chinese government’s role as a venture-style capital allocator rather than a central planner

    The real estate reset in China and the shift toward technology, AI, and advanced manufacturing

    AI as the next wave of globalization and its impact on professional services and labor markets

    Whether the U.S. vs. China AI competition is truly winner-take-all

    Capital expenditure intensity in the U.S. vs. capital efficiency and open-source innovation in China

    U.S. exceptionalism, G2 geopolitics, and portfolio diversification beyond a U.S.-centric allocation

    Why emerging markets ex-China may differ from China tech exposure

    The case for separating China from emerging markets in asset allocation

    The concept of China as an alpha reservoir due to retail-driven market inefficiencies

    Why traditional value and factor strategies have struggled in the U.S. but still work in China

    How machine learning and AI are changing quantitative investing and factor construction

    The launch of CNQQ and accessing large-cap China technology exposure

    Timestamps
    00:00 China as the world’s factory and the role of fierce internal competition
    01:02 Why U.S. investors misunderstand China’s economy
    03:48 Is China capitalist despite the Communist Party label
    05:33 The government as a VC-style investor rather than central planner
    07:45 China EV competition and manufacturing dominance
    09:23 Tariffs, trade leverage, and manufacturing monopoly dynamics
    12:18 China’s bear market and valuation opportunity
    13:59 The real estate reset and shift toward productive capital
    16:00 AI as the next wave of globalization
    18:01 Labor force participation and economic disruption from AI
    19:46 Jobs that may survive in an AI-dominated world
    22:00 Is U.S. vs. China AI a winner-take-all battle
    24:13 Chip restrictions and long-term innovation incentives
    26:54 Capital efficiency in China vs. heavy AI capex in the U.S.
    29:27 Rebalancing away from U.S.-centric portfolios
    31:18 The end of U.S. exceptionalism and the move toward a G2 world
    34:00 How endowments approach U.S., developed, and emerging markets
    36:35 CNQQ and accessing China large-cap technology
    40:45 China as the great alpha reservoir
    45:49 The future of factor investing in efficient vs. inefficient markets
    49:06 Machine learning, factor decay, and next-generation quant strategies
    55:17 Can AI replace active portfolio managers
    If you enjoy deep conversations on global markets, AI investing, China technology, emerging markets, and quantitative strategies, make sure to subscribe to Excess Returns for more interviews with leading investors and thinkers.

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