S7E1 - How to Build SaaS Partnerships That Actually Drive Revenue with KaraLynn Lewis
In the competitive world of Software as a Service (SaaS), partnerships can serve as a key driver of growth and revenue. However, many companies struggle to build successful partnerships due to a lack of strategic planning and understanding of the partnership landscape. In the first episode of the new Season 7 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, Joran Hofman sits down with KaraLynn Lewis, a Fractional GTM & Partnerships Leader known for “making friends for a living.” In this episode, KaraLynn explores the different types of SaaS partnerships, the challenges involved, and offers a step-by-step guide on how to build successful partnerships that drive business growth.Key Timestamps(0:00) - Introduction to Partnerships in SaaS with KaraLynn Lewis(0:58) - Guest Introduction: KaraLynn Lewis and Her Expertise in SaaS Partnerships(1:24) - Discussion on Partnership Failures and Lessons Learned(2:32) - Defining Partnerships in the SaaS Sector(3:24) - Common Types of SaaS Partnerships(4:48) - Distinguishing Between Referral and Affiliate Partnerships(6:45) - Reasons Why SaaS Partnerships Fail(9:47) - Steps to Set Up a Successful Partner Program(12:25) - Who Should Handle the Initial Stages of a Partner Program?(15:23) - Strategies for Making a Partnership Work(18:08) - Evaluating Partners Beyond Revenue Generation(21:18) - Scaling a SaaS Partner Program(23:03) - Examples of Successful SaaS Partnerships and Best Practices(25:23) - When to Start Investing in a SaaS Partner Program(28:30) - Key Advice for SaaS Partnerships: Quality Over Quantity(29:05) - Trends in SaaS Partnerships for 2025(30:25) - Advice for SaaS Founders from 0 to 10K MRR(31:04) - Scaling from 10K MRR to 10M ARR: Key Strategies(32:35) - Preparing for the Future: AI and Partnerships
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S6E22 - How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10M ARR? Advice from 20 experts
What does it really take to grow from $10K MRR to $10M ARR? That leap isn’t just big; it’s transformative. It marks the shift from being a scrappy startup to becoming a high-growth, scalable SaaS business with a repeatable revenue engine.In Season 6 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, Joran Hofman, founder of Reditus, sat down with 20 industry experts: founders, operators, and advisors who have either made this leap themselves or helped others do it. Together, they explored what it really takes to scale successfully.In this special episode, we’ve compiled all 20 answers into one insight-packed session you can absorb in just 30 to 40 minutes. If you’re serious about scaling, this isn’t just worth your time; it could change your entire growth trajectory. Don’t miss it.Season 6 full episodesEpisode 1: Kristi Faltorusso on Customer SuccessEpisode 2: Aaron Ross on Predictable RevenueEpisode 3: Clark Barron on Demand Gen StrategyEpisode 4: Pablo Assensio on Product-Led GrowthEpisode 5: Peter Loving on UX and RevenueEpisode 6: Tom Shapiro on SEO for SaaSEpisode 7: Mina Golesorkhi on SaaS HiringEpisode 8: Johnny Staker on SaaS Growth StrategiesEpisode 9: Elliott Rayner on Strategic StorytellingEpisode 10: Craig Brown on ICP and MessagingEpisode 11: Ben Murray on Financial StrategyEpisode 12: Nicolas Calabrese on International ExpansionEpisode 13: Kevin Lems on SaaS Pricing in the AI EraEpisode 14: Ramly John on Onboarding StrategiesEpisode 15: Patrick Cumming on Paid AdsEpisode 16: Zoltan Vardy on Founder-Led SalesEpisode 17: Alexander Estner on Go-To-Market PlaybookEpisode 18: Frank Sonders on Go-To-Market StrategyEpisode 19: Ezean and Oji Odeze on Product Management Lessons
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S6E21 – How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10K MRR? Advice from 20 experts
Are you a SaaS founder struggling to hit your first $10K in MRR? You’re not alone it’s the first major hurdle every SaaS founder faces: proving your product, landing real customers, and building traction. In Season 6 of the The Grow B2B SaaS podcast, Joran Hofaman spoke to 20 successful SaaS founders and experts who’ve been through it, and at the end of each interview, He asked them one question: “What’s your best advice for reaching $10K MRR?” This episode brings all their answers together into one powerful, no-fluff summary and before each expert speaks, he'll tell you which episode they’re from so you can check out their full story. If you’re growing a SaaS, this episode is packed with the insights you wish you had months ago.Key Timecodes(1:07) - Episode 1: Kristi Faltorusso on Customer Success(2:35) - Episode 2: Aaron Ross on Predictable Revenue(5:11) - Episode 3: Clark Barron on Demand Gen Strategy(6:20) - Episode 4: Pablo Assensio on Product-Led Growth(7:44) - Episode 5: Peter Loving on UX and Revenue(9:04) - Episode 6: Tom Shapiro on SEO for SaaS(10:29) - Episode 7: Mina Golesorkhi on SaaS Hiring(12:59) - Episode 8: Johnny Staker on SaaS Growth Strategies(14:12) - Episode 9: Elliott Rayner on Strategic Storytelling(16:42) - Episode 10: Craig Brown on ICP and Messaging(18:56) - Episode 11: Ben Murray on Financial Strategy(20:05) - Episode 12: Nicolas Calabrese on International Expansion(22:33) - Episode 13: Kevin Lems on SaaS Pricing in the AI Era(24:21) - Episode 14: Ramly John on Onboarding Strategies(26:09) - Episode 15: Patrick Cumming on Paid Ads(28:19) - Episode 16: Zoltan Vardy on Founder-Led Sales(29:36) - Episode 17: Alexander Estner on Go-To-Market Playbook(30:55) - Episode 18: Frank Sonders on Go-To-Market Strategy(32:12) - Episode 19: Ezean and Oji Odeze on Product Management Lessons
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S6E20 - Scaling Product, Scaling SaaS: Product Management Lessons from $0 to $100M+ with Oji Udezue and Ezinne Udezue.
What does it take to scale a B2B SaaS company from zero to $100 million in ARR? In the final episode of Season 6 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, we explore this big question with two standout guests: Oji and Ezinne Udezue. They’ve worked with top tech companies like Typeform, WP Engine, and Twitter. They also co-wrote Building Rocketships: Product Management for High-Growth Companies. Beyond their resumes, they bring a unique perspective as a married couple with 20 years of partnership, both in life and in product leadership. This episode is full of sharp insights and practical strategies for anyone looking to build and grow successful SaaS products.Key Timecodes(0:00) - Knowing Your Ideal Customer Profile(0:09) - Most Important Task for Founders(0:59) - Closing Off Season 6 with a Bang(1:46) - Guest Welcome(1:53) - Diving Into Product Management(2:02) - Product Management as a Craft(3:19) - The Importance of Sharp Problems(4:44) - Why SaaS Founders Need Product Management(6:22) - Founders Thinking as Product Managers(7:54) - Misconceptions in Product Management(8:32) - Admin Layer of Product Management(9:27) - AI's Role in Product Management(10:19) - Calculated Decisions and Customer Needs(10:52) - AI as a Tool, Not a Replacement(11:13) - Scaling from Zero to $100 Million ARR(12:29) - Finding a Sharp Problem(13:46) - Sharpening Your ICP(16:05) - Building and Refining Your Product(18:13) - Signals Before Investing in Growth(19:38) - The Fundamentals of Product-Market Fit(20:36) - Creating a Unicorn vs. a Small Business(22:32) - Product Strategy Across Revenue Stages(25:41) - Strategic Moats and Distribution(26:11) - What is Product-Market Fit?(27:18) - Customer Investment as a Sign of Fit(28:23) - Phases of Growth in SaaS(30:56) - Virality vs. Network Effects(32:54) - When to Think About Virality and Network Effects(35:02) - AI as a Risk and Opportunity(36:18) - AI's Impact on Workflows(39:15) - Rethinking Business with AI(42:34) - Advice for SaaS Founders Starting Out(45:10) - Growing Towards 10 Million ARR(49:03) - Making Decisions When Not in the Room(51:01) - Summary of Key Points(51:26) - Building Rocketships Pro Edition(53:21) - Building a Community of Product Managers(53:57) - Closing Remarks and Call for Feedback
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S6E19 - Future-Proof Your GTM Strategy: From AI Hype to Real Results with Frank Sondors
Sales is changing fast. What once relied heavily on cold calls and manual follow-ups is now being reshaped by artificial intelligence. In this exciting episode of the Grow your B2B SaaS Podcast, Joran Hofman sits down with Frank Sondors CEO at Forge, who is a leading expert in sales and AI integration, to uncover how companies can use AI to build smarter, faster go-to-market strategies. Frank shares how he built his own company to $3 million in revenue in just one year by combining AI with smart sales processes. He talks about new roles like the GTM engineer, how AI agents can support sales teams, and why blending human effort with AI is the key to long-term success. Whether you're a startup founder or leading an enterprise team, this episode is packed with practical advice to help you sell better in today’s fast-moving market.Key Timecodes(0:51) - Guest intro: Frank Sondors and his ecosystem of tools(1:36) - Building an ecosystem similar to Apple and Frank's sales journey(2:34) - Profit margins and the role of AI in business scaling(3:43) - Rapid growth and scaling with minimal headcount(4:41) - Old vs new go-to-market strategy leveraging AI(5:41) - The role of GTM engineers in sales and pipeline generation(6:45) - Sales development engineers and their responsibilities(7:40) - Increase in tech usage in sales and admin work reduction(8:32) - How AI can craft personalized emails (9:23) - Assembling custom workflows using tools like Zapier(10:15) - Voice AI agents for customer follow-up (11:06) - The value of human interaction in sales(11:55) - Decision making: AI agent vs human interaction (12:56) - Testing AI agents after hours and A/B testing strategies(13:57) - The misconception of automating all sales processes with AI(14:56) - Evolution and effectiveness of AI in business(16:10) - The resistance and acceptance of AI in the market(17:11) - The necessity of being profitable without VC funding (18:05) - Resistance to AI and the inevitability of change(19:39) - Implementing agents at scale and the role of NA10 people(20:32) - Encouraging team-wide automation and innovation(21:28) - Using WhatsApp as a channel for customer communication(22:28) - The importance of first impressions and human interactions(23:28) - The role of WhatsApp in increasing response rates(24:40) - Integrating WhatsApp with Slack for seamless communication(25:42) - Being available across multiple channels for customer engagement(26:08) - Feeding the right context to AI agents for effective interaction(27:10) - Starting with ChatGPT for AI integration(28:03) - Treating ChatGPT as a business coach(29:02) - Encouraging team use of ChatGPT for problem-solving(30:02) - Optimizing repetitive tasks with AI(31:09) - Personal pain points and the role of AI in alleviating them(32:05) - The focus on building a great product and selling it(32:38) - Testing AI agents vs humans and employee concerns(33:10) - The future of labor distribution and AI(34:09) - The role of humans in supervising AI agents(35:08) - The evolution of sales roles and the end of email templates(36:20) - AI agents communicating with each other in business(37:30) - The importance of context in AI interactions(37:45) - Advice for SaaS startups from 0 to 10K MRR(38:49) - Speaking to customers aggressively and leveraging networks(39:44) - Building in public and social selling strategies(40:33) - Doing things that don't scale and leveraging communities(41:31) - The importance of hiring the right team from 10K to 10M ARR(42:22) - The challenge of hiring and firing for growth(43:14) - The value of hiring autonomous employees(44:06) - The problem of babysitting employees and hiring practices(45:06) - Compounding business strategies for growth(46:55) - Ensuring cofounders have the right competence(48:47) - The importance of pricing based on consumption(49:49) - De-risking for growth and the role of sparring partners
We will discuss everything on growing your B2B SaaS, hosted by Joran Hofman, Founder of Reditus.
When growing your B2B SaaS you run into a lot of things; we will cover how to generate your first-paying clients, achieve product-market fit, create a go-to-market plan, and more in-depth information about any marketing channel. Or, when thinking about funding, we will cover bootstrapped stories to fund your SaaS with external money.
As Joran is a founder himself of a B2B SaaS, he will ask the questions for you.
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