Herbcast

How can herbal medicine thrive in a conventional world with Dr Judith Thompson
Sebastian sits down with Dr. Judith Thompson, a Naturopathic doctor, herbalist, and educator at the American College of Healthcare Sciences. Together, they explore the rich intersection of herbal medicine and conventional healthcare, discussing the vital role herbs play in holistic health and the growing interest in natural remedies.
Judith shares her personal journey with herbal medicine, rooted in her South American heritage, and how it shapes her practice today. The conversation explores the contrast between naturopathy and herbalism, the importance of integrating herbal knowledge into modern medical practices, and the rising demand for evidence-based herbal solutions in a world increasingly focused on wellness.
Listen also for insights into the current state of herbal education in America, the challenges faced by herbalists, and the opportunities for collaboration between herbal practitioners and conventional medical professionals. Judith also highlights the significance of teaching students to think holistically about health and consider beyond just treating symptoms
In this episode:
The role of naturopathic medicine in relation to herbalism.
The rising interest in herbal medicine post-COVID.
How cultural backgrounds influence herbal practices.
The importance of holistic approaches in treating underlying health issues beyond just the symptoms.
Opportunities for herbalists within the conventional healthcare framework.

About Dr Judith Thompson:
Dr. Thompson is a seasoned herbalist and naturopathic doctor having used herbs for herself, her family and with her patients and clients for over two decades. As a former midwife, she used them with newborn babies, children, and pregnant mothers. She is a published author having written numerous articles- for medical professionals and the public, natural health books- for new mothers and parents, and textbooks for university students. She has presented internationally on a variety of topics related to natural therapeutics from practical applications to cutting edge research at naturopathic medical conferences, conventional medical, pharmacy and physical therapy schools. She is the immediate past president of the Florida Naturopathic Physicians Association and was the Florida delegate for the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians. Dr. Thompson has taught at universities since 2007 and is the current Dean of Herbal Medicine at the American College of Healthcare Sciences. She comes from a family tradition of using herbs.
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And find out more about the American College of Healthcare Sciences: https://achs.edu/
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The Pros vs the Products: Do supplements work or should you just see a herbalist?
Sebastian speaks with Dr. Rob Verkerk, the founder and scientific director of the Alliance for Natural Health International. They explore the relationship between herbal supplements and traditional herbalism, discussing the efficacy of supplements and the importance of consulting with herbal practitioners.
Dr. Verkerk shares his extensive background in ecology and health, highlighting the need for better integration of herbal knowledge within modern healthcare.
This episode also covers the historical context of supplements, the potential gaps in modern diets, and the challenges surrounding the regulation and quality of herbal products.
In this episode:
- The definition and purpose of dietary supplements in contemporary health.
- Challenges in the regulation and quality control of herbal products.
- The importance of phytonutrients and dietary diversity in preventing chronic diseases.
- How traditional wisdom can inform modern healthcare practices.
- The critical role of herbal practitioners in supporting individual health journeys.
About Dr. Rob Verkerk:
Robert Verkerk is a leading scientist in the healthcare field and is the founder of the Alliance for Natural Health.
Robert is an internationally acclaimed scientist with over 25 years experience in the field of agricultural and healthcare sustainability, having worked in academia, industry and the not-for-profit sector. He has worked extensively in Africa, Asia, Australia, the Americas as well as Europe. After leaving Imperial College London in 2002, he founded the Alliance for Natural Health, which he has headed since.
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Foraging for the truth: How is research changing the face of herbal medicine?
Sebastian Pole welcomes Dr. Merlin Wilcox, a primary research fellow at the Primary Care Research Centre at Southampton University, to discuss the intersection of herbal medicine and modern healthcare. With a rich background in medicine and a passion for herbal research, Merlin shares his journey from growing up with herbal remedies in his mother's garden to conducting pivotal research on traditional medicines in various countries.
The conversation delves into Merlin's experiences in Uganda and Madagascar, where he explored the efficacy of herbal treatments for malaria, and highlights the challenges faced in conducting clinical trials of herbal medicines in the UK due to stringent regulations.
Sebastian and Merline discuss the potential of herbs like Andrographis and Pelargonium in treating upper respiratory infections and the pressing issue of antibiotic resistance.
Merlin emphasises the importance of bridging the gap between traditional herbal practices and modern medical research, advocating for a collaborative approach that acknowledges the value of both systems.
As they explore the future of herbal medicine research, they touch on the need for patient advocacy and the role of the community in demanding more research and acceptance of herbal treatments.
In this episode:
The significance of traditional herbal knowledge and its integration with modern medicine.
Merlin's experiences in herbal medicine research across Africa.
The challenges and potential of conducting herbal clinical trials in the UK.
The role of herbal remedies in addressing antibiotic resistance.
How patient advocacy can drive future research and acceptance of herbal medicine.

About Dr. Merlin Wilcox:
Dr. Merlin Wilcox is a primary research fellow at the Primary Care Research Centre at Southampton University, where he focuses on the intersection of herbal medicine and conventional healthcare. With a rich background in both clinical practice and research, he has dedicated his career to exploring the efficacy of herbal treatments and advocating for their integration into modern medical practices.
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The cure in your kitchen cupboard: The top 10 healing spices everyone needs to know with Dr Rupy Aujla
Simon Mills welcomes Dr. Rupy Aujla, founder of The Doctor’s Kitchen to discuss the profound connection between food, herbs, and health. With an extensive background in conventional medicine, Dr. Rupy shares how his own experience with paroxysmal ​atrial ​fibrillation led him to explore the transformative power of nutrition and discover a passion for food as medicine.
This conversation explores the importance of a plant-forward diet, with a particular focus on protein, herbs and spices, discussing their roles in traditional cuisines and their health benefits.
In this episode:
The impact of dietary choices on chronic health conditions.
How traditional wisdom informs modern nutritional practices.
The significance of cooking methods and ingredient combinations for optimal health (and a gift to pass down through generations)
The role of the microbiome in processing nutrients and supporting overall wellness.
Practical tips for incorporating more plants into your daily meals.

About Dr Rupy Aujla
Dr Rupy, MBBS, BSc, MRCGP, MSc is a London-based doctor, specialising in General
Practice and Emergency Medicine, a nutritionist and founder of The Doctor’s Kitchen.
He hosts The Doctor’s Kitchen podcast with over 20m downloads, YouTube channel
and Doctor’s Kitchen recipe app that helps over 10,000 people each week use
evidence-based food and lifestyle medicine to live healthier happier lives.
Dr Rupy’s life was changed after suffering a significant heart condition in 2009. After learning about nutritional medicine he was able to reverse his condition using a food and lifestyle approach. Influenced by the teachings of both ancient and modern medicine, underpinned by his own clinical experience, Dr Rupy creates recipes that optimise health. He is a Sunday Times bestselling author and has 5 cookbooks to his name as well as a Masters in Nutritional Medicine.
Dr Rupy founded Europe’s first non-profit Culinary Medicine programme for medical schools in 2017 that teaches undergraduates the foundations of nutritional medicine and how to cook.
Known for his BBC shows “Cooking in the Doctor’s Kitchen” as well as Channel 4’s Secrets of the Glucose Goddess with Jessie Inchauspé and Cook Clever Waste Less with Dame Prue Leith, Dr Rupy inspires audiences with easy, budget-friendly recipes that promote wellbeing. Regularly appearing on programs like This Morning and Saturday Kitchen, Dr. Rupy is on a mission to make healthy cooking accessible and enjoyable for all.

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Power to the people with community based health
In this episode of Herbcast, Simon Mills welcomes herbalist and educator 7Song for a chat about the intricacies of herbal medicine and the personal journey that shaped his path. From his early experiments with plants to his rich experiences in diverse ecosystems across North America, 7Song shares the lessons he has learned throughout his extensive career in herbalism.
The conversation delves into 7Song’s initial fascination with nature, the various herbal schools that influenced his practice, and the importance of community engagement in herbal medicine. Listen for insights into the practical applications of herbs in clinical settings, the significance of social justice in healthcare, and the evolving role of herbalists in society today.
In this episode:
The pivotal moments that led 7Song to embrace herbalism as a lifelong vocation.
Reflections on the differences in plant materia medica across various regions, including the deserts of New Mexico and the Appalachian Mountains.
The importance of integrating herbal medicine with conventional healthcare and collaborating with other medical practitioners
Insights into the Ithaca Free Clinic and the role of herbalists in providing accessible healthcare.
7Song’s vision for the future of herbal education and the development of an online herbal database.

About 7Song
7Song is a clinical herbalist, teacher, and naturalist. In 1981 he began studying plants and herbal medicine and has been engaged and fascinated by them ever since. He started the Northeast School of Botanical Medicine in 1992 where he has been the director and primary teacher. He is one of the founders and a clinical herbalist at the Ithaca Free Clinic, which is an integrated free clinic offering both conventional and holistic modalities.
7Song is a Russian Jew, originally from Long Island, NY, but has been in Ithaca, NY for over 30 years. Along with teaching and clinical work, he enjoys identifying and photographing plants and other critters.
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