You Are Closer to Your Purpose Than You Think: A New Map to Realize Yours Now with Michael Ventura
We’ve been told a story — that purpose is a North Star, a perfect sentence, a destination to reach in the distant future. But what if that story is what’s keeping us stuck? In this episode, thought leader and author Michael Ventura shares a new path to purpose — one that helps you realize yours now and chart your path forward. Instead of chasing a single North Star, he invites us to see purpose as a constellation of meaningful points already alive in our lives. Through 13 “points of light” — from origin and identity to wounds, joy, and service — he offers a framework to help map who we are and what we’re here to do.We talk also about:Why the “North Star” model no longer worksA new framework made up of 13 “points of light” — from origins, identity, and wounds to joy, and serviceHow wounds shape our direction — and why healing is part of living our purposeHow to recognize that your purpose is already alive, now The difference between intellectualizing your purpose and deeply knowing itWhat to do when you feel stuck or like nothing’s bloomingA preview of Michael’s forthcoming book — and how he shifted from agency leader to guide, teacher, and healerMichael Ventura is a thought leader, author and practitioner working at the intersection of personal transformation and organizational change. He’s the founder of the strategy and design consultancy Sub Rosa, the author of Applied Empathy, and an advisor to leaders at organizations like Nike, Google, and the Obama-Biden Administration. He teaches at Esalen and works with individuals and teams in moments of transition.Connect with Michael Ventura:https://www.michaelventura.co/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mvmvmv/Substack: https://michaelventura.substack.com/Connect with Lizzie Azzolino:https://www.workwithlizzie.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizzieazzolino/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizzie_azzolino/
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Beyond Time Management: Time Mastery, Flow and Divine Timing with Belief System Coach Daniel Naor
Time is something we think about, talk about, worry about and structure our work and lives around every day. Yet, how often do you stop and ask: What is time, really? What is my relationship with time? Could I be experiencing time in a completely different way? In a world that feels like it’s speeding up, our relationship with time is ready to evolve. Because “I don’t have enough time” is just a belief. But it’s not the whole truth.In this conversation with my friend Daniel Naor — Kabbalah teacher and belief system coach — we break down the subconscious programming to explore how to rise above the limitation of linear time and open to a more expansive reality. In this episode, we bridge the spiritual with the practical to explore:What time really is — and how to expand beyond a purely linear experience of timeThe biggest limiting beliefs we hold about time — and how to shift themDivine timing: how to work with time, rather than work against timeThe balance between planning and allowing for a greater plan to unfoldThe difference between hustling and aligning with time’s natural flowPractical ways to rewrite your relationship with time and move from pressure to presenceWork with Daniel Naor:https://www.kabbalah.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/daniel.naor72Work with Lizzie Azzolino:https://www.workwithlizzie.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizzieazzolino/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lizzie_azzolino/
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From Thinking to Feeling: Leading in Integrity with Design Leader Benedikt Lehnert
What does it really mean to lead with integrity? And how do we move beyond external expectations and comparison to fully trust and be ourselves?In this conversation with Benedikt Lehnert—a seasoned design executive whose career spans startups to Fortune 10 big tech, including Microsoft and SAP—we explore what it means to shift from thinking our way to answers to feeling our way into alignment. Ben shares his journey of leaving external validation behind to reconnect with his core truth. We explore the inner work leadership requires today.We also discuss the concept of “openings”—moments that wake us up and invite us to release old ways of operating, even when it’s uncomfortable. I share how to spot, understand, and move through these openings with intention.Finally, we explore the intersection of entrepreneurship, humanistic design, business leadership, and intuition—and why, as industries and systems crumble, our willingness to step into alignment is not just personal but collective.If you’ve felt like you’re being asked to step into a new way of leading—both in work and life—this episode will help you trust that process.Get in touch with Benedikt Lehnert: https://benediktlehnert.github.io/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benediktlehnert/Substack: https://benediktlehnert.substack.com/Get in touch with Lizzie Azzolino:https://www.workwithlizzie.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizzieazzolino/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lizzie_azzolino/
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Work is Now Spiritual: From External Success to Inner Alignment with Master Astrologer Rachel Schwartz
In this episode, Lizzie welcomes master astrologer and Kabbalah teacher Rachel Schwartz to explore the profound shift happening in the way we work: the movement from external success to inner alignment. As systems and structures rapidly change, we’re being called to redefine purpose, security and fulfillment — not through external validation, but through deep personal truth.Lizzie shares her own recent inner work and realizations about how much of herself she had been hiding in her own work, including this podcast. Together, she and Rachel explore what it really means to do the work we are here to do — not just in our careers, but across all dimensions of life.Rachel unpacks the astrological forces shaping this moment, particularly Pluto’s move into Aquarius, which signals a breakdown of old structures and an invitation into radical individuality, purpose, and contribution. They explore how work is no longer about achievement — it’s about consciousness.They also discuss:Why external systems (corporations, governments, institutions) are dissolving—and what this means for our workHow Pluto in Aquarius is shifting us from external security to internal sovereigntyThe danger of looking for a guru — and why the answers are already withinWhy true individuality isn’t about standing out — it’s about contributionHow to navigate moments of despair and misalignment and how to take your next stepThe real definition of fulfillment: receiving from an unlimited sourceHow inner work shapes external reality — and why that’s more true now than everThis conversation will challenge how you think about work, success, and your role in the world — offering a new lens on why we’re here and what it means to fully step into our purpose.Work with Rachel Schwartz: https://www.racheltheastrologer.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/racheltheastrologer/Work with Lizzie Azzolino:https://www.workwithlizzie.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizzieazzolino/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizzie_azzolino/
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From Soul Break to Homecoming: Rewriting The Story of Your Past to Create Your New Path Forward with Heidi Hackemer
How do you heal, grow and create a fulfilling new path when the company and career you’ve poured your heart and soul into ends unexpectedly? Lizzie Azzolino is joined by founder and strategist Heidi Hackemer to explore the concept of a “soul break” and the overlooked importance of rewriting the story of our past.Heidi shares her unconventional path through five chapters: advertising, entrepreneurship, collaborating with the Obama White House, serving as an executive at the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative and Oatly, and her newly emerging homecoming. Her personal story illustrates why and how to listen to our intuition, the real work of knowing who we truly are, breaking free from external expectations and leading a career and life that’s fulfilling and uniquely yours.They also talk about:The emotional and professional pain of closing a soul-driven businessHow breaking points can make way for something greater to emergeHow to rewrite our stories and reframe the past to create a stronger foundation for the futureThe loneliness of leadership, spiritual lessons of entrepreneurship and the opportunity to redefine leadership now more than everHow intuition beyond logic always leads to the right next step and what happens when we go against itThe vital importance of turning down distractions from technology to know what we really wantThe lessons found in reconnecting with nature, such as quitting her job, buying a truck, and driving across the country in her early 30s, and her current chapter which she calls “witch in the woods”Her experience saying yes to the call from the Obama White HouseWhat she’s learned from the Indigenous community about how to navigate societal and political challengesThe power and clarity that comes with ageGet in touch with Heidi Hackemer: https://hackemer.co/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidihackemer/Substack: https://heidihackemer.substack.com/Get in touch with Lizzie Azzolino here:https://www.workwithlizzie.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizzieazzolino/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizzie_azzolino/
Now at Work is a podcast about what becomes possible when we realize we can choose to create who we are — at work and in the world.
Hosted by Lizzie Azzolino, each episode explores the reality shifts, inner clarity, and defining moments that spark true transformation. Through honest conversations with leaders, founders, and creatives, we move beyond the surface — into the choices, questions, and stories that shape how we live, lead, and create.
We talk about transitions — those threshold moments when who you’ve been no longer fits, and a new way of being is ready to emerge. This isn’t about reinvention. It’s about returning to what’s true — and building your future from there.
Join us for real stories, deep reflections, and bold invitations to lead from who you are — now.
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