What are the real stories behind the most misunderstood and abused ideas in politics? From Conspiracy Theory to Woke to Centrism and beyond, Ian Dunt and Dorian...
Part two of Ian and Dorian’s post-Presidential Election show at the Tabernacle in West London, recorded on the 7th of November. After signing books (have we mentioned there are Origin Story books out?) Dorian and Ian returned to continue the analysis of what the hell just happened. They also considered what a Trump win means for the UK and answered some excellent audience questions.
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Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey and Ian Dunt. Produced by Simon Williams and Chris Jones. Music by Jade Bailey. Art by Jim Parrett. Logo by Mischa Welsh. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Origin Story is a Podmasters production
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US Post-Election Live Show – Part One
Part one of Ian and Dorian’s post-Presidential Election show at the Tabernacle in West London, recorded on the 7th of November. The show turned into a group therapy session, after Trump won to become the first convicted felon to be elected to the highest office in America. Listen back to Dorian and Ian beginning the process of coming to terms with this world-changing outcome and its implications for global politics.
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Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey and Ian Dunt. Produced by Simon Williams and Chris Jones. Music by Jade Bailey. Art by Jim Parrett. Logo by Mischa Welsh. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Origin Story is a Podmasters production
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Artificial Intelligence – Part Two – Skynet’s the limit
The final episode of our two-part story of Artificial Intelligence. Having looked at the emergence and development of AI in part one we now turn to the future and assess the dangers and possibilities it raises.
We weigh up two arguments concerning existential risk. Some AI theorists believe the technology has the possibility of becoming sentient and then behaving against humanity's interests. Others worry that it will simply deliver disastrous outcomes on the basis of badly established requests. For instance, if you ask a highly advanced machine to create paperclips, with no additional restrictions, it might end up killing everyone in its relentless pursuit of its task. Are either of these ideas remotely believable? Are they remotely likely?
Then we look at the possible repercussions of more modest outcomes. What happens when everyone on earth is equipped with their own genius machine, which can assess global corporate law in seconds, or make millions on Amazon Marketplace? Will we use it for good or ill? (Spoilers: It'll be bad)
How confidently can we accept the predictions of AI theorists? Are they really right that this is all inevitable? Or is history, and technological development, far more chaotic and unpredictable than their models allow?
Finally, we look at the impact on humanity as we are all suddenly enveloped in AI art. Will an AI song ever move us to tears? And if so, what does that say about who we are and what we look for in the world?
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Reading List
Books
Susie Alegre - Human Rights, Robot Wrongs: Being human in the age of AI (2024)
Nick Bostrom – Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies (2014)
Daniel Crevier – AI: The Tumultuous History of the Search for Artificial Intelligence (1993)
Pedro Domingos - The Master Algorithm: How the quest for the ultimate learning machine will remake the world (2015)
Max Fisher - The Chaos Machine: The Inside Story of How Social Media Rewired Our Minds and Our World (2022)
Walter Isaacson – The Innovators: How a Group of Hackers, Geniuses and Geeks Created the Digital Revolution (2014)
Dorian Lynskey – Everything Must Go: The Stories We Tell About the End of the World (2024)
John Markoff - Machines of Loving Grace: The Quest for Common Ground Between Humans and Robots (2015)
David G. Stork (ed.) – HAL’s Legacy: 2001’s Computer as Dream and Reality (1997)
Mustafa Suleyman with Michael Bhaskar – The Coming Wave: AI, Power and Our Future (2023)
Michael Woolridge – The Road to Conscious Machines: The Story of AI (2021)
Articles
Alan Turing – ‘Computing Machinery and Intelligence’, Mind (1950)
Brad Darrach – ‘Meet Shaky, the First Electronic Person’, Life (1970)
Jeremy Bernstein – ‘A.I.’, New Yorker (1981)
Raffi Khatchadourian – ‘The Doomsday Invention’, New Yorker (2015)
Ted Chiang – ‘Silicon Valley Is Turning Into Its Own Worst Fear’, Buzzfeed News (2017)
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Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey and Ian Dunt. Produced by Simon Williams. Music by Jade Bailey. Art by Jim Parrett. Logo by Mischa Welsh. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Origin Story is a Podmasters production
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Conspiracy Theory - Exclusive audiobook excerpt
It can seem like conspiracy theories have travelled at warp speed from the eccentric margins to the heart of modern politics. But in fact conspiracism has always been one of history’s darkest forces, from the witch hunts to the Holocaust. In this exclusive audiobook extract from the prologue to Conspiracy Theory: The Story of an Idea, Ian explains how conspiracy theories exploit the human brain’s craving for simple explanations in a chaotic and unpredictable world to spin bogus narratives of evil cliques, shadowy plots and do-or-die conflicts between Us and Them.
Why are conspiracy theories so alluring, how have they shaped history and how can liberal democracy survive if its citizens no longer inhabit a shared reality? Featuring JFK, David Icke, Princess Diana and the Wu-Tang Clan, this is our introduction to a weird and wild story. You can listen to Ian and Dorian read Conspiracy Theory: The Story of an Idea, along with its sister Origin Story publications Fascism and Centrism, on Audible, Spotify or your favourite audiobook platform. Or buy the physical books on Fascism, Centrism and Conspiracy Theory.
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Artificial Intelligence – Part One – Deus ex machina
This week we begin the story of Artificial Intelligence. Since the launch of Chat-GPT in late 2022, we have been more excited, and anxious, about AI than ever before. It’s become a daily obsession. But the key question we are grappling with is the same as ever: can machines really ever develop human-style intelligence or merely imitate it? And what is human intelligence anyway?
In part two we’ll be exploring the possible ramifications of AI, from the utopian to the dystopian and all points in between. But first, we explain how humanity’s long, ambivalent fascination with artificial life has brought us here.
We start with premonitions of AI, from Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein to Isaac Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics, and Ada Lovelace, the original AI sceptic, to Alan Turing and his famous test. Artificial Intelligence itself — the term and the field of study — began in 1956, at a summer school at Dartmouth University. While most computer scientists were working on ways for machines to partner with human intelligence — the personal computer, the internet — AI researchers dreamt of replacing it.
For decades, AI development was a cycle of boom and bust. Extravagant claims attracted funding, talent and media attention, then their failure to materialise caused all three to collapse. AI became tarnished by its broken promises. But in the 21st century, the availability of vast troves of data and powerful new processors finally solved such stubborn challenges as image recognition and automatic translation, leading to the current AI gold rush. Along the way, we meet gamechanging scientists like Marvin Minsky and Geoffrey Hinton as well as landmark machines like ELIZA, the first chatbot, Shakey the robot and AlexNet, deep learning’s great leap forward.
Why does the prospect of machine intelligence enthral and unnerve us? Why has AI proved so much more difficult than its pioneers imagined? How have fictional AIs like HAL and Skynet shaped the mythology of AI? And are Large Language Models like Chat-GPT just glorified autocomplete or a historic turning point in our relationship with machines?
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Reading List
Books
Susie Alegre - Human Rights, Robot Wrongs: Being human in the age of AI (2024)
Nick Bostrom – Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies (2014)
Daniel Crevier – AI: The Tumultuous History of the Search for Artificial Intelligence (1993)
Pedro Domingos - The Master Algorithm: How the quest for the ultimate learning machine will remake the world (2015)
Max Fisher - The Chaos Machine: The Inside Story of How Social Media Rewired Our Minds and Our World (2022)
Walter Isaacson – The Innovators: How a Group of Hackers, Geniuses and Geeks Created the Digital Revolution (2014)
Dorian Lynskey – Everything Must Go: The Stories We Tell About the End of the World (2024)
John Markoff - Machines of Loving Grace: The Quest for Common Ground Between Humans and Robots (2015)
David G. Stork (ed.) – HAL’s Legacy: 2001’s Computer as Dream and Reality (1997)
Mustafa Suleyman with Michael Bhaskar – The Coming Wave: AI, Power and Our Future (2023)
Michael Woolridge – The Road to Conscious Machines: The Story of AI (2021)
Articles
Alan Turing – ‘Computing Machinery and Intelligence’, Mind (1950)
Brad Darrach – ‘Meet Shaky, the First Electronic Person’, Life (1970)
Jeremy Bernstein – ‘A.I.’, New Yorker (1981)
Raffi Khatchadourian – ‘The Doomsday Invention’, New Yorker (2015)
For the full reading list join our Patreon.
Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey and Ian Dunt. Produced by Simon Williams. Music by Jade Bailey. Art by Jim Parrett. Logo by Mischa Welsh. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Origin Story is a Podmasters production
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What are the real stories behind the most misunderstood and abused ideas in politics? From Conspiracy Theory to Woke to Centrism and beyond, Ian Dunt and Dorian Lynskey dig into the astonishing secret histories of concepts you thought you knew.
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