Is it okay to ask your coworker how much they make? Is Gen Z set up for failure in the workplace? Should you really bring your whole self to work? Each week on ...
How to Take an “Adult Gap Year” – and When It’s Not Worth It
In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the pros and cons of taking an “adult gap year” (aka sabbatical or “mini-retirement”), why they’re becoming more common, and how to financially plan for one if you want to take one yourself.
00:00 Intro
01:56 Stats on burnout
05:54 Defining “sabbatical” vs “leave of absence” vs “gap year” or “mini retirement”
08:48 Companies providing sabbatical options
15:01 What Kyle and Kaila would do with a 4-week sabbatical
18:36 Harvard Business Review’s study on sabbaticals
20:56 Can you take a break without hurting your career?
22:16 How to take a break if you don’t necessarily have the financial means to
26:39 Tactics
Harvard Business Review’s article on sabbaticals.
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We React to Zuck’s “Masculinity” Comments and Meta’s Big Layoffs
In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss some of the recent news surrounding Meta—from their announcement of cutting 5% of their workforce, to Mark Zuckerberg’s recent comments on masculinity in the workplace.
00:00 Intro
00:51 Meta’s recent announcement around firing practices
04:25 Two potential upsides to Meta’s “rank and yank” system
07:07 Issues with stack ranking systems
13:39 What is the ideal performance incentive at work?
17:29 How certain incentives cause “creaming”
20:09 What’s going on with managers?
22:53 Mark Zuckerberg on Joe Rogan clip
32:12 What we can takeaway from Meta’s new policies
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The Right Way to Make a Major Career Change
In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss when and how to make a career pivot, and the questions to ask yourself before starting.
00:00 Intro
01:19 Listener career pivot story submission
05:06 Kaila’s biggest career pivot
07:55 A crucial consideration before making a career change
08:21 Kyle’s career pivots
12:13 The importance of finding what you actually enjoy doing
15:54 A common mistake with networking
20:25 Knowing career narrative
23:12 Embracing the beginner’s mindset
24:13 Listener submissions
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Is 2025 The Year of “Revenge Quitting”?
In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the rise of revenge quitting, what it is, why it’s seemingly on the rise, and their takes on its effectiveness.
00:00 Intro
01:43 Defining what “revenge quitting” is
04:05 Why 2025 will be the year of revenge quitting
09:30 Why the year of revenge quitting might actually be something else
10:37 Why Kaila loves the idea of revenge quitting
16:35 The truth about revenge quitting
17:28 How Kaila and Kyle have quit jobs in their career
22:51 The importance of exhausting your options
26:32 A Reddit story of revenge quitting
27:57 Tactics
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How to Get Promoted This Year
In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the real strategies and steps involved in getting a promotion, from how and when to have the conversation with your boss, to how to get clear for yourself what you really want in the next stage of your career.
00:00 Intro
00:36 Kaila and Kyle’s first promotions
05:38 Kaila and Kyle’s 2025 career goals
07:12 The number one thing you should be doing to set yourself up for success
17:12 More tips for how to get promoted in 2025
19:29 How Kaila and Kyle became directors
23:04 The importance of checking in with your manager frequently
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