Cashflow is king: Making the case for asset-based finance
This episode is sponsored by Rithm Capital
The asset-based finance market is heating up, with a raft of private credit investors increasingly taking note of the strategy – and for good reason. Capable of delivering strong returns even in challenging macroeconomic environments due to its cashflow-oriented nature, ABF represents a rather unique offering for lenders and LPs alike.
But contrary to what many might think, ABF is not a particularly new strategy. Michael Nierenberg is Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President of Rithm Capital, a global asset manager focused on real estate, credit and financial services which makes direct investments and operates several wholly-owned operating businesses.
In this episode, he explains how the market has evolved over his more than 30 years in the industry. He also discusses which industries are particularly well-positioned to benefit from ABF strategies and why he believes ABF is an area in which investors are underinvested.
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Goldman's Reynolds on scale and the $10bn deal
Growing scale is one of the big themes in private debt as a small group of mega-sized GPs expand their platforms rapidly – both building on existing strategies like direct lending and colonising new areas such as asset-based lending and specialty finance.
Among the largest of these managers is Goldman Sachs Asset Management, one of the early pioneers of the asset class. In this edition of The Private Debt Investor Podcast, we hear from James Reynolds, global co-head of GSAM’s private credit business, about how the addressable market is growing larger still – with $10 billion club deals now within the view of direct lenders.
Reynolds explains why the firm has launched a climate credit strategy, arguing there is a large supply/demand imbalance in that area. He also discusses the blurring of the public and private markets, how managers are reaching out to large new pools of investor capital, why there is room for optimism around the M&A market, and the importance of focusing on underwriting rather than being distracted by the headlines.
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Rising stars of private debt share their top tips for success
Private debt's rapid growth is continuing to attract attention from junior professionals that are looking to make a career for themselves in this dynamic market. But how can they stand out from the crowd and prove their value in what is an increasingly competitive labour market?
In November, Private Debt Investor unveiled its annual list of Rising Stars of Private Debt, which highlights the young professionals that are blazing a trail in the asset class.
For this episode, we asked three of this year's cohort to reflect on their careers and share how they capitalised on opportunities that came their way over the course of their career, how they identified their areas of interest and what their advice would be for the next generation of private credit professionals.
Listen as Hannah Roberts, special projects editor at PDI, speaks with Adam Baghdadi, a managing director in the lending team at Arrow Global; Priscilla Schnepper, an investment manager in the private credit team at the European Investment Fund; and Catherine Verri, a partner in the investor relations team at Carlyle, to get their top tips on how to succeed in this industry.
See the full list of the Rising Stars of Private Debt here.
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The ACC's Jiri Krol on why securitisation rules need changes
Last year, the European Commission launched a consultation seeking feedback on the functioning of the EU Securitisation Framework. Among those organisations submitting a response to this was the Alternative Credit Council, the body representing private credit asset managers led by global head Jiri Krol.
The Private Debt Investor Podcast caught up with Krol to find out what was at the heart of the ACC’s response. The organisation believes there was an “overreaction” after the global financial crisis, placing severe regulatory burdens on the securitisation market, including the likes of private credit firms as well as banks and insurers.
Krol believes a thriving securitisation market will provide welcome additional liquidity and a boost to the real economy, and he makes the case for deregulation in the face of unreasonably high demands in areas such as due diligence and transparency.
The discussion also includes reflections on the ACC's latest Financing the Economy report, including the revelation that private debt has now become a $3 trillion industry.
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The ‘good boring’ approach to private credit
This episode is sponsored by Golub Capital
Private credit has enjoyed massive growth for more than a decade, but there are real questions about what happens when conditions are less favourable. How can lenders that launched during the good times continue to succeed when the market changes?
David Golub of Golub Capital knows from experience. Golub Capital was founded 30 years ago and has performed well in all kinds of market conditions. One of Golub Capital’s strengths involves a ’good boring’ approach, which aims to minimise the excitement of market swings and focus on delivering consistently for its stakeholders.
In this episode, David discusses Golub Capital's founding and its evolution through the financial crisis and the pandemic. We'll look at how cultivating close, long-term relationships with sponsors can improve every stage of the deal process, and why remaining focused on companies in resilient sectors where the firm has deep expertise has helped Golub Capital remain consistent, even in times of ‘bad interesting’.
Want to be kept well informed about all the emerging trends and key developments in private debt investment? You’ll find what you need right here, where PDI’s reporters and analysts share their own deep insights, as well as speak with many of the asset class’s most prominent individuals, on topics like deal origination and execution, fundraising, regulation, technological innovation, sustainability and all things private credit.
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