"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

• Aaron Levie, CEO of Box, on Box AI, Enterprise Enthusiasm, and the Evolution of SaaS

  In this episode, Aaron Levie, Co-founder and CEO of Box, discusses the current landscape of AI and its rapid advancements. He compares the enthusiasm for AI in the enterprise to the initial reluctance faced during the early days of cloud adoption. Levie shares insights into how AI is integrated into both his personal and professional life, highlighting new apps, tools, and features driven by AI. He elaborates on Box's AI initiatives, including the creation of Box AI to manage enterprise content and the concept of AI agents and their impact on enterprise IT departments. Levie also addresses the obstacles and opportunities in deploying AI at scale, predicting significant changes and a new era of 'systems of intelligence' in enterprise software. SPONSORS: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive Shopify: Dreaming of starting your own business? Shopify makes it easier than ever. With customizable templates, shoppable social media posts, and their new AI sidekick, Shopify Magic, you can focus on creating great products while delegating the rest. Manage everything from shipping to payments in one place. Start your journey with a $1/month trial at https://shopify.com/cognitive and turn your 2025 dreams into reality. Vanta: Vanta simplifies security and compliance for businesses of all sizes. Automate compliance across 35+ frameworks like SOC 2 and ISO 27001, streamline security workflows, and complete questionnaires up to 5x faster. Trusted by over 9,000 companies, Vanta helps you manage risk and prove security in real time. Get $1,000 off at https://vanta.com/revolution CHAPTERS: (00:00) Teaser (00:50) About the Episode (03:49) Introduction and Warm-Up (04:08) Personal AI Use and Worldview (06:48) Enterprise AI Excitement (07:22) Comparing Cloud and AI Adoption (11:19) Transforming IT Departments (14:24) Box's New AI Features (18:08) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | NetSuite (20:48) Challenges in AI Implementation (22:25) Building the Right AI Architecture (27:41) The Future of AI Agents (29:04) Exploring Agent Capabilities (30:55) The Evolution of Enterprise Software (32:12) Sponsors: Shopify | Vanta (35:28) AI's Role in Non-Deterministic Workflows (37:07) Challenges in AI Deployment (40:27) AI's Impact on Enterprise Software (44:47) Debates on Enterprise Software's Future (52:33) AI-Driven Productivity in Enterprises (55:01) Conclusion and Future Outlook (55:44) Outro SOCIAL LINKS: Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/ Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing

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• Emergency Pod: Reinforcement Learning Works! Reflecting on Chinese Reasoning Models DeepSeek-R1 and Kimi k1.5

  This episode explores the groundbreaking advancements in AGI from recent releases of two Chinese reasoning models: DeepSeek's R1 and Moonshot AI's Kimmy. The discussion delves into the methods, comparative analysis, and implications of these models, particularly focusing on the diverse reinforcement learning techniques employed. Despite computation constraints, these models have achieved significant performance, suggesting a paradigm shift in AI development strategies. The episode also covers the broader strategic dynamics, economic, and policy implications surrounding these developments in China and the West. The conversation highlights the importance of hands-on interaction with these models for a deeper understanding and comprehensive learning experience. SPONSORS: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive Shopify: Dreaming of starting your own business? Shopify makes it easier than ever. With customizable templates, shoppable social media posts, and their new AI sidekick, Shopify Magic, you can focus on creating great products while delegating the rest. Manage everything from shipping to payments in one place. Start your journey with a $1/month trial at https://shopify.com/cognitive and turn your 2025 dreams into reality. Vanta: Vanta simplifies security and compliance for businesses of all sizes. Automate compliance across 35+ frameworks like SOC 2 and ISO 27001, streamline security workflows, and complete questionnaires up to 5x faster. Trusted by over 9,000 companies, Vanta helps you manage risk and prove security in real time. Get $1,000 off at https://vanta.com/revolution CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introduction (05:44) The R1 Model: A Deep Dive (10:05) Reinforcement Learning and Emergent Behaviors (Part 1) (16:56) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | NetSuite (19:36) Reinforcement Learning and Emergent Behaviors (Part 2) (29:14) Challenges and Future Directions (Part 1) (31:55) Sponsors: Shopify | Vanta (35:11) Challenges and Future Directions (Part 2) (43:00) Productizing the R1 Model (01:00:20) The Remarkable Output of Language Models (01:00:34) Exploring R1's Creative Writing Capabilities (01:03:55) Tiny Stories and Learning Order in Small Models (01:08:34) Censorship and Strategic Questions (01:11:36) Key Takeaways and Future Implications (01:14:17) Comparing Approaches: R1 and Kimmy (01:27:19) The Path to Superhuman Performance (01:33:42) Strategic Dynamics and Policy Responses (01:46:50) Final Thoughts and Call to Action (01:48:04) Outro SOCIAL LINKS: Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing

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• Material Progress: Developing AI's Scientific Intuition, with Orbital Materials' Jonathan Godwin & Tim Duignan

  Jonathan Godwin, founder and CEO of Orbital Materials, alongside researcher Tim Duignan, discuss the transformative potential of AI in material science on the Cognitive Revolution podcast. They explore foundational concepts, the integration of computational simulations, and the development of new materials for various applications such as data centers and combating climate change. They also delve into the latest advancements, including a groundbreaking study on the potassium ion channel, and speculate on the future of AI in scientific discovery and material synthesis. Check out some of Tim's work: Google Colab to run you own simulation: https://colab.research.google.com/github/timduignan/orb-models/blob/main/examples/OrbMDTut.ipynb GitHub repository "Orb force fields": https://github.com/orbital-materials/orb-models Preprint "A potassium ion channel simulated with a universal neural network potential": https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.18931 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse SPONSORS: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive Shopify: Dreaming of starting your own business? Shopify makes it easier than ever. With customizable templates, shoppable social media posts, and their new AI sidekick, Shopify Magic, you can focus on creating great products while delegating the rest. Manage everything from shipping to payments in one place. Start your journey with a $1/month trial at https://shopify.com/cognitive and turn your 2025 dreams into reality. Vanta: Vanta simplifies security and compliance for businesses of all sizes. Automate compliance across 35+ frameworks like SOC 2 and ISO 27001, streamline security workflows, and complete questionnaires up to 5x faster. Trusted by over 9,000 companies, Vanta helps you manage risk and prove security in real time. Get $1,000 off at https://vanta.com/revolution CHAPTERS: (00:00) Teaser (01:05) About the Episode (05:10) Welcome to Orbital (06:15) Semiconductors (07:44) Material Science Today (09:22) Experimental Cycle (12:06) Orbital’s Founding (14:51) AI in Materials (Part 1) (21:05) Sponsors: OCI | NetSuite (23:45) AI in Materials (Part 2) (35:00) Sponsors: Shopify | Vanta (38:15) Generative Models (38:16) Diffusion Models (50:50) Orbital Applications (58:19) Perfect Sponge (59:43) AI Simulations (01:01:27) Natural Language (01:02:35) Compute Needs (01:05:05) Human Electrical Nature (01:06:11) Potassium Channels (01:15:51) Scaling Simulations (01:23:56) Roadmap: Carbon Removal (01:30:37) AI & Job Satisfaction (01:36:14) LLMs & Potentials (01:37:19) AGI & Discovery (01:39:58) Outro

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• Dodging Latent Space Detectors: Obfuscated Activation Attacks with Luke, Erik, and Scott.

  In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores the groundbreaking paper on obfuscated activations with 3 members from the research team - Luke Bailey, Eric Jenner, and Scott Emmons. The team discusses how their work challenges latent-based defenses in AI systems, demonstrating methods to bypass safety mechanisms while maintaining harmful behaviors. Join us for an in-depth technical conversation about AI safety, interpretability, and the ongoing challenge of creating robust defense systems. Do check out the "Obfuscated Activations Bypass LLM Latent-Space Defenses" paper here: https://obfuscated-activations.github.io/ Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse SPONSORS: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive Shopify: Dreaming of starting your own business? Shopify makes it easier than ever. With customizable templates, shoppable social media posts, and their new AI sidekick, Shopify Magic, you can focus on creating great products while delegating the rest. Manage everything from shipping to payments in one place. Start your journey with a $1/month trial at https://shopify.com/cognitive and turn your 2025 dreams into reality. Vanta: Vanta simplifies security and compliance for businesses of all sizes. Automate compliance across 35+ frameworks like SOC 2 and ISO 27001, streamline security workflows, and complete questionnaires up to 5x faster. Trusted by over 9,000 companies, Vanta helps you manage risk and prove security in real time. Get $1,000 off at https://vanta.com/revolution RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Check out Modern Relationships where Erik Torenberg interviews tech power couples and leading thinkers to explore how ambitious people actually make partnerships work. This season's guests include: Delian Asparouhov & Nadia Asparouhova, Kristen Berman & Phil Levin, Rob Henderson, and Liv Boeree & Igor Kurganov. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1786227593 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hJzs0gDg6lRT6r10mdpVg YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRelationshipsPod CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) Teaser (00:00:46) About the Episode (00:05:11) Latent Space Defenses (00:08:41) Sleeper Agents (00:15:06) Three Case Studies (Part 1) (00:17:02) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | NetSuite (00:19:42) Three Case Studies (Part 2) (00:24:09) SQL Generation (00:26:17) Understanding Defenses (00:32:52) Out-of-Distribution Detection (Part 1) (00:35:37) Sponsors: Shopify | Vanta (00:38:52) Out-of-Distribution Detection (Part 2) (00:45:13) Loss Function Weighting (00:57:49) Who Moves Last? (01:11:41) High-Level Triggers (01:25:33) Open Source vs. Access (01:38:57) Internalizing Reasoning (01:53:07) Representing Concepts (02:06:38) Final Thoughts (02:09:33) Outro

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• Gene Hunting with o1-pro: Reasoning about Rare Diseases with ChatGPT Pro Grantee Dr. Catherine Brownstein

  Nathan explores the cutting-edge intersection of AI and rare disease research with Dr. Catherine Brownstein of Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard Medical School. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we dive into how frontier AI models are revolutionizing the diagnosis of rare diseases. Join us for an insightful conversation with a ChatGPT Pro grant winner who's pioneering the use of AI to help patients find answers faster. Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse Check out Modern Relationships, where Erik Torenberg interviews tech power couples and leading thinkers to explore how ambitious people actually make partnerships work. This season's guests include: Delian Asparouhov & Nadia Asparouhova, Kristen Berman & Phil Levin, Rob Henderson, and Liv Boeree & Igor Kurganov. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1786227593 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hJzs0gDg6lRT6r10mdpVg YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRelationshipsPod SPONSORS: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers. OCI powers industry leaders like Vodafone and Thomson Reuters with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before March 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive Shopify: Dreaming of starting your own business? Shopify makes it easier than ever. With customizable templates, shoppable social media posts, and their new AI sidekick, Shopify Magic, you can focus on creating great products while delegating the rest. Manage everything from shipping to payments in one place. Start your journey with a $1/month trial at https://shopify.com/cognitive and turn your 2025 dreams into reality. Vanta: Vanta simplifies security and compliance for businesses of all sizes. Automate compliance across 35+ frameworks like SOC 2 and ISO 27001, streamline security workflows, and complete questionnaires up to 5x faster. Trusted by over 9,000 companies, Vanta helps you manage risk and prove security in real time. Get $1,000 off at https://vanta.com/revolution CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) Teaser (00:00:56) About the Episode (00:04:45) Rare Diseases Common (00:06:48) Patient Journey (00:12:57) Genome Sequencing (00:19:39) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | NetSuite (00:22:19) Diagnosis Process (00:30:50) Data Pipelines (00:35:51) Sponsors: Shopify | Vanta (00:39:07) Interaction Graphs (00:42:18) Data Accessibility (00:43:42) AI in Pipelines (00:45:40) LLM Impact (00:48:40) Anomaly Detection (00:52:07) Data Sharing (00:58:49) Data Reform (01:02:41) AI's Potential (01:04:30) AI Applications (01:06:57) Prompt Engineering (01:14:51) Model Comparison (01:19:16) Prompting Insights (01:22:14) Move 37 Analogy (01:24:34) Future Potential (01:29:27) Future Experience (01:32:39) Outro SOCIAL LINKS: Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk

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